All_Pro_Bills Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Maybe its because I live in a place surrounded by a lot of Jets fans but I always get nervous when the Bills play these guys. The games never works out the way I expect. Yesterday was obviously an example of that. This team looks like it's lost some of their swagger and energy since the win over the Chiefs. Beating the Chiefs was an obsession and everything they did in the off season was designed to beat KC. Everything early in the season was done with the objective of preparing for that game. Once that goal was accomplished the team had a collective letdown as Mission Accomplished. But that's just not the goal here, and they know it. Losing a carelessly and sloppy game against the Jets might be just the right medicine and provide the fuel for the needed attitude adjustment to re-focus on the real goal which is the Super Bowl. They need to come out guns blazin' on both sides of the ball next Sunday Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Gene1973 said: All reasonable scenarios. But how likely is it that Allen is back to himself next week vs. still in a slump but now with a bum throwing elbow? It's possible he starts lighting it up again, but that seems highly unlikely against a 7-1 team playing well, while still missing a lot of starters on D. Von made a play that should have won the Bills the game, but Allen gave the ball right back. It really doesn't look like the slump will just end with this one loss. Let’s see. I put the chances Better that he will be back to himself over Tua finishing the season healthy again. the elbow didn’t bother his 60 yard Dime that Davis dropped. maybe someone on the Bills should pick up Allen when he has a bad game for once. He does it enough for the rest of the guys. You think they would return the favor one time. 1 Quote
Johnnycage46 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Except we are still the NO1 seed. we are still top dog in AFCE. on pace for a 12-4 record going into final week. still have 4 division games with 3 of them ar home. Yeah we will be fine. I hear you...but honestly, there are only a game or two more of us being able to say "hey, we're the 1 seed and division leader". Lost next week to Minny and suddenly we're NOT the 1 seed and we're in 3rd place in the division. We're trending in the wrong direction. Quote
BattlinBill Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 I think people forget we were 7-6 last year and we were 13 seconds away from advancing. Yea, it sucks but we still seem to be in a much better position this year. Of course if we go 1-4 the next five games then yes, we are in trouble... 1 Quote
Johnnycage46 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Same here really. Just win one so I don't have to care about this anymore. I've thought about this recently. If we can get a SB I might just retire. It's too exhausting to care so much about something I have zero control over. Quote
BuffaloBill Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, CNYfan said: I think we are experiencing a mild slump. The Bills will be back at it, doing handsprings, in no time. Amen to this. ^^^ There are ebbs and flows to every season. The Jets D is for real and Josh was off by his own admission. He will learn from the situation and go on. Quote
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Let’s see. I put the chances Better that he will be back to himself over Tua finishing the season healthy again. the elbow didn’t bother his 60 yard Dime that Davis dropped. maybe someone on the Bills should pick up Allen when he has a bad game for once. He does it enough for the rest of the guys. You think they would return the favor one time. That’s part of the problem. Our skill players stay overrated. I saw multiple plays last night, in an ugly Chiefs/Mahomes performance, that I haven’t seen anyone make for Allen this year. Their WR5 and TE2 both made circus catches that Davis won’t make and McKenzie could never make. Do we even have a TE2 anymore? 2 Quote
GolfandBills Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 I think this is what we’ll get with Allen throughout his career. He has a little bit of Favre in him. He’s going to throw picks Quote
NORWOODS FOOT Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: This ^^^^. Almost 50 years of die hard fandom and all I feel now is total stress. I worry about losing every game, watching them physically gives my body bad reactions. I don’t enjoy my Sundays anymore, even when they win. Sports is suppose to be a fun outlet, the NFL and the Bills are not. It’s not the team or players fault, they haven’t felt or lived through what so many of us have. So many of current fans, including my boys, haven’t felt or lived through almost any of it. I’m grateful they don’t feel this sh*t like I do. I JUST WANT 1. Then I can and will move on. I think a lot of us that were relatively young during those Super Bowls really got our sport psychology pretty messed up. It boggles my mind that our team even went to four straight super bowls. That alone is insane. And the fact that we lost every single one of them. The fact that i, yes, literally cried after four straight Super Bowls and had my heart broken. When you suffer for something so long and so hard it is nearly impossible to give up. But part of me wishes that yes, the Bills win one Super Bowl, and then after I'm done relishing that victory I won't care about them anymore. I know we're getting kind of deep here, but those four losses really did impact a lot of people psychologically. Edited November 7, 2022 by NORWOODS FOOT 1 Quote
Seventeen Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 I prefer to look at the the Jets' loss as a wakeup call, not the iceberg hitting the Titanic. Long season - bad games happen. 3 Quote
ShakAttack Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Except we are still the NO1 seed. we are still top dog in AFCE. on pace for a 12-4 record going into final week. still have 4 division games with 3 of them ar home. Yeah we will be fine. trust me it’s hard to write this, but this statement sounds a little too familiar. Last year I believe we were the 1 seed coming out of the bye and we started to struggle. at first it was “ok don’t worry we still have the #1 seed and we will snap out of it” except we continued to lose every other week, looking like a shell of the team we were before the bye. the difference here is, we didn’t have the injuries we do now, including a possible injury to the QB, so eventually, once the playoffs started, we had everyone ready to roll (minus Tre white) and we looked great. I will say this, as bad as Allen looked yesterday, he had us at midfield after ONE throw, if not for a holding call (one of my least favorite penalties in the nfl because it’s very often a drive killer), yet we got the lost yardage back on the very next play, only for the unfortunate strip sack which literally did kill the drive. but yeah, ultimately - in my opinion - the holding penalty changed the outcome of that drive from possibly winning the game and not having to hear about Allen’s struggles, to this being Allen’s worst game ever. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: I hear you...but honestly, there are only a game or two more of us being able to say "hey, we're the 1 seed and division leader". Lost next week to Minny and suddenly we're NOT the 1 seed and we're in 3rd place in the division. We're trending in the wrong direction. There is a game or two more we can continue to say that. Until we are not. We are 1-1 in the last two games and people acting like the wheels came off. Lol Quote
Greg S Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, BuffaloBill said: Amen to this. ^^^ There are ebbs and flows to every season. The Jets D is for real and Josh was off by his own admission. He will learn from the situation and go on. The Jets have built a team that matches up very well with Buffalo. Their secondary can hang with our receivers. They can pressure with their front 4. They can run the ball. Imagine if Breece was playing yesterday. The Jets are going to be a pain in the ass for the Bills. Thankfully Wilson sucks because if he gets good then the Jets will really be a major problem. JD has built a solid roster. 1 Quote
Casey D Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, NORWOODS FOOT said: I agree. Yesterday in a post I just wrote, "I'm sad," and this is really why. As someone who lived through the four Super Bowl losses my main driver in being a fan now is to finally see a team get over the hump. And it feels like my history as a Bills fan has been one of feeling stupid for actually having hope and believing in the team. I really didn't think I would ever feel that way with this team with Josh Allen under center. And yet 0-2 in the division has me worried. I know the season is long. And I know that this will all just make for part of a great story if we end up winning the championship. But for the moment I feel that I've (potentially) been disillusioned regarding this team. That my belief was ill-founded and like I'm being forced to consider the possibility that this team to is somehow just another pretender. Caring about the Bills has been been a big unnecessary pain in my life. It hurts more than liking a sports team should. Let's see how they respond. But you need to have perspective. Even as SB "favorites," the Bills chances of winning it all is/was only about 20%. That means it is 80% likely they won't win the SB. So just go with the flow and take it day by day, game by game. The journey is supposed to be fun. Not always-- but overall!! 🙂 2 Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I know he threw that pass after he was hurt, but I'm hoping it's not a nagging type of injury that gets worse the more he throws. I bet we won't get much from the Bills on the injury, just the usual day to day sore etc BS. He specifically said it was a little pain. If there was ANY major issue with his throwing elbow he would not have been in the game. Quote
Johnnycage46 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: There is a game or two more we can continue to say that. Until we are not. We are 1-1 in the last two games and people acting like the wheels came off. Lol No, I get it. It's not like we got knocked out of the playoffs yesterday. I think it's more the WAY we lost (and couple with last week's 2nd half) that gives me pause. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: That’s part of the problem. Our skill players stay overrated. I saw multiple plays last night, in an ugly Chiefs/Mahomes performance, that I haven’t seen anyone make for Allen this year. Their WR5 and TE2 both made circus catches that Davis won’t make and McKenzie could never make. Do we even have a TE2 anymore? I hear you. Maybe eventually McD will allow Beane to use to premium assets to help Allen and or address the pathetic OL that Allen has played behind now for his career. Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BobBelcher said: trust me it’s hard to write this, but this statement sounds a little too familiar. Last year I believe we were the 1 seed coming out of the bye and we started to struggle. at first it was “ok don’t worry we still have the #1 seed and we will snap out of it” except we continued to lose every other week, looking like a shell of the team we were before the bye. the difference here is, we didn’t have the injuries we do now, including a possible injury to the QB, so eventually, once the playoffs started, we had everyone ready to roll (minus Tre white) and we looked great. I will say this, as bad as Allen looked yesterday, he had us at midfield after ONE throw, if not for a holding call (one of my least favorite penalties in the nfl because it’s very often a drive killer), yet we got the lost yardage back on the very next play, only for the unfortunate strip sack which literally did kill the drive. but yeah, ultimately - in my opinion - the holding penalty changed the outcome of that drive from possibly winning the game and not having to hear about Allen’s struggles, to this being Allen’s worst game ever. Ok cool. Good thing the No 1 seed (which we still are by the way). Doesn’t keep you out of the playoffs. And to be honest. I don’t know if I want it after watching how Flat McDs teams have been after byes. 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: If there were like structural issues to the point the joint wouldn't function yes. But there could be ligament stretch and even slight tearing and you'd be hard pressed to get Allen to come out I think. So then he will be fine. As his Dime at the end of the game showed. Especially with how cautious this coaching staff is with Injuries. If there was anything major there he would have been off the field. Edited November 7, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote
NORWOODS FOOT Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Casey D said: But you need to have perspective. Even as SB "favorites," the Bills chances of winning it all is/was only about 20%. That means it is 80% likely they won't win the SB. So just go with the flow and take it day by day, game by game. The journey is supposed to be fun. Not always-- but overall!! 🙂 You sound kind and well-adjusted! I wish I could feel like you. You are certainly right. A lot of people, perhaps immaturely, are looking for the Bills to heal the wound they made in our sports psyche. It feels funny saying all of this out loud, but sometimes the truth ain't pretty. 😆 1 Quote
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