Warriorspikes51 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Career over? Just stop not funny whatsoever Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, DrPJax said: Sure looks like it’s leaning this way. They are prob getting opinions on which way to go as more “ tests” seems unlikely. Mri should be definitive by now so it’s a matter of which path to go depending on the diagnosis which is what I think mcds cryptic talk means. I would be pleasantly shocked if Allen somehow played this week, but I don’t expect that and I’m more concerned he will be out for a few weeks If our record tumbles, he might be done depending on the standings and how many we lose if he’s out. A decision on surgery , if that’s still on the table to Josh as an option , of course ends the season and would prob happen asap ( once acute swelling is resolving) so it gives him his best shot to be fully recovered for next year. Should have the definitive decision on Wednesday. Man , what a gut shot that could be , esp for us older fans with limited shots left! 😊 If it’s Tommy John his career is most likely over and he played last game as a bill. 1 Quote
BuffaninSarasota Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: If it’s Tommy John his career is most likely over and he played last game as a bill. Based on what evidence? I am legitimately curious…. Quote
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I'm a little worried too, obviously, but based off Allen's last throw, what he said in his PC, the fact that he wasn't sitting in the PC with a cast on his arm or ice on his elbow, and now Rap's report, I'll be surprised if he doesn't play on Sunday. Can't imagine it's a serious sprain just based on the throw and his attitude (and naked arm) after the game at the PC. If he sits, he sits. But I think we averted disaster and people need to relax a bit. Josh will take this game as (what Von calls) good medicine and have an epic comeback game against the Vikings. The injury was frightening, but I think people are being a little doom and gloom despite the events after the injury. I want to believe you, and probably tend to believe this won’t be worst case but am also of the opinion I’d be surprised if he plays Sunday. That said, the reason speculation is all over the place is because the Bills have been very weird with injuries this year. I get it, somewhat .. the cautious nature of the staff given the goals and depth on this team. But everything seems to linger and we all experienced the wild randomness of Micah Hyde’s season ender, it makes sense that people are on edge .. especially with the guy our entire franchise rides on. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Mort chimed in again and said “Don't think there is panic on this one, anyway.” 2 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 I've changed my mind. I'm throw all the positive thoughts out there into the ether. Josh will he fine. Maybe miss 2 games and the Bills will squeak 1 of those out. Then he will return and things will be better. Deep breath Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: The dolphins who are running his system with a guy who is one concussion from retirement Are you concussed? He literally got concussed twice in that system this year. 😂 I asked you for an example of longevity being increased "astronomically" in a Shanahan style system.........as you put it. Maybe you are a little too emotional to be having this discussion......... Now the idea of adding another superstar receiver for Allen to throw to instead of the enigmatic Gabe Davis...........yeah I can get behind that. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: Based on what evidence? I am legitimately curious…. Well if you read the previous posts on UCL tears if surgery is needed it may involve Tommy John and if it is Tommy John then Josh Allen played his last game as a Bill 1 Quote
Justin C Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Can we take his spleen and put it where his UCL is to fix it? 1 Quote
CaliBills Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Well if you read the previous posts on UCL tears if surgery is needed it may involve Tommy John and if it is Tommy John then Josh Allen played his last game as a Bill I guess pichers that have Tommy John never come back and pitch? oh wait, yea they do so your assumption is way off guy Edited November 7, 2022 by CaliBills 1 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: Are you concussed? He literally got concussed twice in that system this year. 😂 I asked you for an example of longevity being increased "astronomically" in a Shanahan style system.........as you put it. Maybe you are a little too emotional to be having this discussion......... Now the idea of adding another superstar receiver for Allen to throw to instead of the enigmatic Gabe Davis...........yeah I can get behind that. Is Jimmy G still playing and did he play in NFC championship game last year and did Stafford just win the Super Bowl? Just now, CaliBills said: I guess pichers that have Tommy John never come back and pitch? oh wait, yea they do so your assumption is way off guy Yeh in 2 years not 6 months 1 Quote
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 I think the reason speculation is all over the place and people are freaking out is because it took decades to replace Jim Kelly (even better) and the thought of something even LEANING in the direction of career over is enough to bring a grown man to cry. Obviously not knowing a single thing, if you told me he is out 4 weeks and would be back 100%, I would take that in a heartbeat. For some reason, my gut tells me this season is over. Quote
BuffaninSarasota Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Well if you read the previous posts on UCL tears if surgery is needed it may involve Tommy John and if it is Tommy John then Josh Allen played his last game as a Bill I’ve read the previous posts and am fully aware the outcome might result in TJ surgery. What I’m asking you is what is the evidence to support the assertion that if it’s TJ then Allen will have played his last game as a Bill? Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 To quote Aaron n Rogers “RELAX!” This is all speculation and know one knows exactly what the problem is so stop stressing over something that may be nothing.. 1 1 Quote
CaliBills Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Yeh in 2 years not 6 months A quick google search will show 12 months recovery for majority MLB pitchers to come back fully. so again, way off Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaninSarasota said: I’ve read the previous posts and am fully aware the outcome might result in TJ surgery. What I’m asking you is what is the evidence to support the assertion that if it’s TJ then Allen will have played his last game as a Bill? Because the Bills are not going to throw away two years of football not knowing what he’s going to be like when he comes back they’ll have moved on by then Just now, CaliBills said: A quick google search will show 12 months recovery for majority MLB pitchers to come back fully. so again, way off A 12 month recovery time means he comes back from Tommy John late in 2023 season meaning he won’t play till 2024 so two years I’m right 1 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Ulnar nerve isn't anything to mess around with. I had Ulnar nerve entrapment and it basically makes it feel like the backside of your arm is asleep, including your pinky and ring fingers. You get the numbness and pins and needles thing going on. Would definitely impact your ability to grip and throw of a football like normal. 1 Quote
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