Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[Big Blitz]

“If this were playoffs he could play.”

 

 

Yes.  It’s the playoffs.  
 

 

Good thing we have a solid run game.  

[rayray808]

until the vegas line jumps or is taken off the board... I am assuming he will deal with the pain and play

[Bill from NYC]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I think it's time people start revising their expectations of Josh Allen being an elite QB for "the next 10 years".    

 

No QB that has taken a beating anything close to Allen has been elite past their year 8 season.........this is year 5 for him.

 

Maybe he defies the odds and makes it another 10 years as a top 5 QB but this also might be his best shot at a SB..........it's by no means a given that a long career of All Pro level football remains ahead.   

 

Which is why they should get him blockers and better receivers instead of drafting first round corners to play in a zone system that 6th round picks and UDFAs tend to succeed in.

 

But hey, I guess "some things will never change."

 

 

[boater]

The Bills probably not looking to attractive to OBJ right about now.

 

I read reports of his interest in the 6-2 Cowboys, who just hung a 49 point victory.

[Success]

I guess it's a day for overreactions.

 

Shut Allen down for the season?  It's time to dial back on saying he'll be elite for however many years?

 

Cripes.  I'm not saying he'll be fine, because we don't know.  But it just sounds precautionary now, and he did throw an insanely long pass on the last play yesterday.  

 

[Scott7975]

52 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I'm going to hazard a guess here, that you haven't worked closely with many really good, PhD level physical therapists.

 

I have absolutely had a really good PT diagnose me - after a Dr visit and tests - said walk here, turn there, hold this up, pressed (SCREAMS), proceeded to write a note to doctor suggesting re-examination and different tests.  Have others in my social circle with similar experiences.   Part of the issue is that the art of physical examination is not as thoroughly taught to physicians these days, when tests are more objective - but they have to be the right tests looking at the right part.

 

Then I'm gonna let this go, because it really doesn't matter.

 

I had a sports medicine doctor diagnose me with a shoulder that just needed some physical therapy.  Then I had an MRI to reveal my discs from C1-T3 were heavily compressing my spine so there's that.  Nobody knows anything until imaging.

 

Had I done the physical therapy I could have been paralyzed or killed btw.

Edited November 7, 2022 by Scott7975

[Casey D]

4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

We can’t run the ball. Teams are going to just completely take Diggs away. We will get suffocated without Allen. This isn’t a team with an above avg running game that you can lean on. We have an elite playmaker at QB that opens everything up. The Vikings will probably kill us is Keanum plays.

Well hello Sunshine!

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I’d much rather write this year off and get him the protection and weapons he deserves. No more battering ram Allen. I want him around for another 10 years. 

 

 

Yeah it doesn't work that way.   Can't rollback the odometer.    The hits are just fine until suddenly they are not.    That's why those with longevity in mind don't take them.   McBeane chose to build this team around the defensive side of the ball.........just as those at their previous jobs in Carolina did.    Whether that turns out to have been the right decision remains to be seen but it's all-in this season one way or another.    Next year the parts start falling off and the degree of difficulty increases.

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

We can’t run the ball. Teams are going to just completely take Diggs away. We will get suffocated without Allen. This isn’t a team with an above avg running game that you can lean on. We have an elite playmaker at QB that opens everything up. The Vikings will probably kill us is Keanum plays.

Dialing it back and running a conventional offense may actually unlock something in this team. 
 

It could also be horrible. 
 

If Allen misses 4 weeks, looking at the schedule, I don’t see any games we can’t win with this defense (assuming McD does what he does and fixes the run fits)
 

None of the teams we play coming up have our kryptonite .. a ferocious front 4 and lockdown corner. 
 

Edited November 7, 2022 by SCBills

[BananaB]

Any loss at this point is crucial. The D isn’t healthy enough to carry this team to victories 

[78thealltimegreat]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah it doesn't work that way.   Can't rollback the odometer.    The hits are just fine until suddenly they are not.    That's why those with longevity in mind don't take them.   McBeane chose to build this team around the defensive side of the ball.........just as those at their previous jobs in Carolina did.    Whether that turns out to have been the right decision remains to be seen but it's all-in this season one way or another.    Next year the parts start falling off and the degree of difficulty increases.

He’s 26 not 33 all McDermott has to do is get a Shannhan like coordinator in here to design a run heavy offense and short passing game and his longevity goes up astronomically 

[Beck Water]

55 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Has Quesen(dingle)berry been cut yet?  Worst OL in the league and it’s not even close.  

 

Seriously, if he were the worst OL in the league, we would have signed someone off a practice squad or made a low level trade.

 

He's not.

[Scott7975]

12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

No we're not. Case Keenum is  more than capable of winning games.

 

Not behind this oline and running game he isnt.  He has played like ***** everywhere he has been outside of the one season the stars aligned which was what, 6 years ago?

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Dialing it back and running a conventional offense may actually unlock something in this team. 
 

It could also be horrible. 
 

If Allen misses 4 weeks, looking at the schedule, I don’t see any games we can’t win with this defense (assuming McD does what he does and fixes the run fits)
 

None of the teams we play coming up have our kryptonite .. a ferocious front 4 and lockdown corner. 
 

Where was the ferocious front 4 yesterday, or did they forget they also have to play the run?

[Beck Water]

54 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

The fact they are still evaluating is unsettling......probably MRI and other things.   

 

A couple teams have MRIs in the facility.  I'm sure Allen got sent off for an MRI pretty much first thing.

[BADOLBILZ]

12 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

I agree.  I know the talent level between them is not the same, but look how quickly Newton fell off the map after playing superman for 4-5 years. 

 

 

Yeah it was astonishing how useless Cam became.    It's hard to determine which really came first........his arm turning to jello or his brain.

 

I'm by no means predicting an immediate end for Allen but the reality is that McBeane have endeavored to have 2 of everything on defense and yet on offense they are happy with Diggs, Dawkins and some guys.     

 

By rights........they should be able to beat Minnesota and Cleveland at home and Detroit on TG with Keenum at QB...........they have the most invested-in defense in the NFL in terms of dollars and premium draft picks.   Every team has injuries.

[DrPJax]

8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I’d much rather write this year off and get him the protection and weapons he deserves. No more battering ram Allen. I want him around for another 10 years. 

Can’t afford the best at every position. This is a quality , super bowl talent filled roster ( quote from ex player Michael Robinson).  It’s no longer about talent. It’s coaching including the coordinators. We have the weapons and soon we will face cap limitations. You don’t throw years away or write one off unless you have no choice.   Hey , even if we barely get in , if Josh is healthy then , that’s all that matters. Cincy is proof what a hit team can do as they got there last year. I agree if Josh needs surgery , our chances really take a hit. But you don’t write it off if Josh is 75% and can still run well. No future years are promised so I would let him play if he’s not in a cast ; pretty doubtful he could jeapordize  his future completely playing when not 100%.  No season will be perfect with weapons and protection  That’s like telling your GF we need to hold off on that engagement ring until I have the perfect job and salary ; chances are your chances with her will rapidly approach the same odds of the Lions winning the Lombardi!😀

[Playoffs?]

23 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

No we're not. Case Keenum is  more than capable of winning games.

I don’t see it..

 

I say, play Josh!  Let him throw with his left arm, and run every other play! 

[What a Tuel]

18 minutes ago, boater said:

The Bills probably not looking to attractive to OBJ right about now.

 

I read reports of his interest in the 6-2 Cowboys, who just hung a 49 point victory.

 

Its off topic but do we really want someone who will lose interest the moment the team faces adversity anyway then? 

 

I keep hearing this "shifting to whoever is winning" nonsense and while I can understand money calling, I cant understand that. I don't want that on my team bc what if we have a loss like yesterday and he is here? Drama time?

Edited November 7, 2022 by What a Tuel

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Every team has injuries.

 

Not like this. We could be down our #1 CB, WLB, SS, FS, EDGE, and RT (admittedly his backup is not much of a drop off). That's literally half our starting defense. If we're missing that many people and Allen there is no chance we are winning this game. Against the Texans, maybe. Against even a .400 team no way.