Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[NewEra]

49 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Singletary has a role for sure.  I see it like NO split with Ingram and Kamara during Kamaras rookie year.  
 

Cook has more big play ability.  Give him more touches so he can take advantage of the times when the line gets everyone blocked.  Those 10 to 20 yard runs by Singletary are much bigger with Cook.  

 

They have brought Cook along very slowly.  They also have schemed up redzone plays that were also wide open but were not able to get the play off.  Put those plays in the offense more often.  
 

I don't expect Buffalo to run alot more.  I do think they need to find a way that is not so dependent on Allen for a big play.  I believe that is Cook.  5 touches a game isnt enough to show it.  Singletary needs 10 to 15 to get going.  I think you can get the same increase in output with Cook and the ceiling would be much higher.     

Just as some of those 10-20 yard Singletary runs are much shorter with Cook.  

[Turbo44]

15 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

If Josh thinks he can play, he should play.  Too much riding on this game to treat it like a loss is no big deal.  

 

As loss today, with a win by MIA, knocks us to third in the Division.

Jets would have to win too for us to be 3rd, plus MIA and NYJ having to play in Buffalo in December = I like our chances

[mannc]

59 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Does anyone think he might start the game technically for the first play hand it off and in comes Keenum. 

Why on Earth would they do that?

[Coach Tuesday]

My gut tells me this gets to 120 pages 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

9 minutes ago, brianthomas said:

Could also be a combination of the 2. There's good reason to bring him along slowly. We also know we're not immune from mishandling players & game situations & new stadiums & just about anything.

For me, i've seen enough thats positive out of Devin's game & Cook's that we need to see more of a commitment to both. Singletary doesnt need to be brought along slowly, whats the excuse for him? Is a 4.4 ypc average just not good enough to cut it in the NFL?

If the Bills don’t run the ball more, I don’t expect to see the corresponding uptick in our pass catchers taking the load off Allen, or Diggs. 
 

All WGR hosts are completely against any increase in running the ball, because they equate that with the Drought Bills. 
 

Of course they are relevant because of Josh Allen and the pass game, and you don’t want the Bills to become the 2022 Chargers with Herbert checking down constantly. 
 

I just think they could afford to add a bit more conventional offense into their play selection. A few less hits on Allen (he got throttled near the goal

line against Green Bay). 
 

Stick with the run, like I said 11-13 carries for Singletary and 7-8 for Cook, using Shakir over the middle, moving Dawson Knox around some more, and maybe some play action.

 

The Jets game was Miami Part II. Allen running around, real and perceived pressure, a lot of gunning, nothing easy. 
 

I think the Bills have always been Allen dependent, and that has shifted to Diggs dependent as well the last two games. 
 

 

[Wayne Cubed]

12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

My gut tells me this gets to 120 pages 

Ground up and in the freezer?

[LyndonvilleBill]

16 minutes ago, brianthomas said:

Could also be a combination of the 2. There's good reason to bring him along slowly. We also know we're not immune from mishandling players & game situations & new stadiums & just about anything.

For me, i've seen enough thats positive out of Devin's game & Cook's that we need to see more of a commitment to both. Singletary doesnt need to be brought along slowly, whats the excuse for him? Is a 4.4 ypc average just not good enough to cut it in the NFL?

In both cases I think its more to do with the our OC and NFL season length. They don't want to wear them out. With Singletary he's basically the only one we had to rely on with experience. Same as last year, slow start and came on strong near the end. As to Cook, NFL is way more physical and what 4+ games longer. 7-8 games in the NFL is probably the same as the entire college season on a RB'S body. Ramping Cook up is probably a really good thing. My guess is his usage will increase from here. Especially now with Moss out of the way. At least I hope so.🙏

[Billz4ever]

18 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Jets would have to win too for us to be 3rd, plus MIA and NYJ having to play in Buffalo in December = I like our chances

Jets are on Bye, so if we lose, we have the same record and they would be ahead of us thanks to division record.

 

Best we can do is split with MIA and NY and they are 2-1 in the division, while we're 0-2.

Edited November 12, 2022 by Billz4ever

[Matt_In_NH]

39 minutes ago, MJS said:

I think it is much less severe than those 3rd party doctors think. Allen played in practice on Friday.

 

I could easily see it as a thing where they decided out of caution and said "we'll just rest it all week and get you some reps on Friday and see how you feel."

If it was just pain it’s easy.  There is risk of worsening the injury.   Those drs don’t think it’s severe but they think it need some healing time to reduce the risk of a more severe injury.   McDermott talked about common sense.   That will prevail.  

[nucci]

1 hour ago, BillsSbSoon said:

True just thinking it could be possible. 

why would you think that? What would be the purpose?

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I haven't read through any of this 112 page thread but I am about to be one of "those guys".

 

My brother lives in SLO county in California and ran into Allen's cousin at the local Costco. According to Allen's cousin, Allen is out for at least two weeks, possibly three.

 

Take it for what it's worth. Even if this information was from an even closer relative like his brother or father I would realize that things can always change rapidly for the better or worst with an injury.  I do believe the injury is day to day, not so much hour to hour like McDermott said, so things could change and maybe he only ends up missing one game. If there is an ounce of credibility in what my brother was told there would seem to be zero chance Allen suits up tomorrow. 

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I haven't read through any of this 112 page thread but I am about to be one of "those guys".

 

My brother lives in SLO county in California and ran into Allen's cousin at the local Costco. According to Allen's cousin, Allen is out for at least two weeks, possibly three.

 

Take it for what it's worth. Even if this information was from an even closer relative like his brother or father I would realize that things can always change rapidly for the better or worst with an injury.  I do believe the injury is day to day, not so much hour to hour like McDermott said, so things could change and maybe he only ends up missing one game. If there is an ounce of credibility in what my brother was told there would seem to be zero chance Allen suits up tomorrow. 

Makes sense and this is what I expect.  No AFCE games scheduled.  Vikings, Browns, Lions.  We might be able to win 1-2 of those with Case.  

[JohnnyBuffalo]

5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I haven't read through any of this 112 page thread but I am about to be one of "those guys".

 

My brother lives in SLO county in California and ran into Allen's cousin at the local Costco. According to Allen's cousin, Allen is out for at least two weeks, possibly three.

 

Take it for what it's worth. Even if this information was from an even closer relative like his brother or father I would realize that things can always change rapidly for the better or worst with an injury.  I do believe the injury is day to day, not so much hour to hour like McDermott said, so things could change and maybe he only ends up missing one game. If there is an ounce of credibility in what my brother was told there would seem to be zero chance Allen suits up tomorrow. 

I am your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate.

[BillsSbSoon]

1 hour ago, Jamie Nails said:

Remember when Matt Cassel took the first snap of the season and then that was it. Or something like that. Can’t exactly recall what happened there. Anyone not at that game and 25 beers deep remember the exact sequence? 

That’s exactly what I was thinking of

[Logic]

10 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I haven't read through any of this 112 page thread but I am about to be one of "those guys".

 

My brother lives in SLO county in California and ran into Allen's cousin at the local Costco. According to Allen's cousin, Allen is out for at least two weeks, possibly three.

 

Take it for what it's worth. Even if this information was from an even closer relative like his brother or father I would realize that things can always change rapidly for the better or worst with an injury.  I do believe the injury is day to day, not so much hour to hour like McDermott said, so things could change and maybe he only ends up missing one game. If there is an ounce of credibility in what my brother was told there would seem to be zero chance Allen suits up tomorrow. 

I originally predicted three weeks and I’m sticking with that.

 

I think they’ll continue the “day to day” declaration the whole time, but they know that his arm needs rest in order to heal properly.

 

The short week before the Lions game clinches the three week timeline, IMO.

 
They traded for Keenum. They believe in him. They’ll hope to go at least 2-1 while Allen heals, and QB1 will retake the field for the three game AFCE stretch.

 

Flame away, but that’s what I envision happening.

[Wayne Cubed]

Still think we will know by 4pm today if they elevate Barkley off the practice squad. 
 

They wouldn’t allow Allen to be the backup, if there’s no chance he can play. You wouldn’t risk him being forced into action.

[Jamie Nails]

1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Still think we will know by 4pm today if they elevate Barkley off the practice squad. 
 

They wouldn’t allow Allen to be the backup, if there’s no chance he can play. You wouldn’t risk him being forced into action.

i wouldn’t be surprised to have Bitcoin up regardless 

[Wayne Cubed]

Just now, Jamie Nails said:

i wouldn’t be surprised to have Bitcoin up regardless 

I think him being up means there’s no chance Allen is starting, let alone playing.

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Still think we will know by 4pm today if they elevate Barkley off the practice squad. 
 

They wouldn’t allow Allen to be the backup, if there’s no chance he can play. You wouldn’t risk him being forced into action.

 

They'll elevate Barkley either way if Allen is a game time decision. He doesn't take up a roster spot and they can declare him inactive even if they call him up.

[Wayne Cubed]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

They'll elevate Barkley either way if Allen is a game time decision. He doesn't take up a roster spot and they can declare him inactive even if they call him up.

I guess, I just think if Allen was going to start and play, that means they think his elbow is fine. Why waste one of the 3 times you can elevate Barkley?