Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[ShakAttack]

1 minute ago, RiotAct said:

apparently a lot of people do.  Admirable, really.

AL inn.

i can roll with that.

[BarleyNY]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

This is what I said. If the defense can hold up and hold the Vikings to 14-17 points and can find our way to 20-23 then winning this game is definitely possible 

So your strategy would be to try to outscore the Vikings? Interesting…..

 

 

 

(Sorry, I’m just kidding around. I know what you mean.)

[SectionC3]

18 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Do you think this thread would have gone 110+ pages if people didn’t think that? If he definitely wasn’t going to play wouldn’t he have been ruled out already? 

Oddly, based on the wrap we saw on Friday, I do.  

 

I'm wondering if this is more of a nerve issue (pain tolerance/grip ability) than it is an ulnar issue.  The guess here is that the UCL checked out relatively clean (at least less significant than the 2018 injury) and the problem relates to a nerve impingement, which in turn affects a couple of fingers and grip ability.  Just a(n unfounded) guess, though. 

[Chaos]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

This is what I said. If the defense can hold up and hold the Vikings to 14-17 points and can find our way to 20-23 then winning this game is definitely possible 

So you are saying if the Bills outscore the Vikings they have a chance to win the game? 

[ShakAttack]

52 minutes ago, Johnnyp566 said:

Is there anyone that actually thinks he is playing? This is a joke. 

some do. I’m one of them. But when I’m being honest with myself, deep down I know he isn’t, and I also know it’s probably for the better than he doesn’t play. I just remember how miserable I was last year the week after the Bills were on a 2 game losing streak and I guess it’s kind of a defense mechanism for not wanting to feel that way again.

 

I also tried to warm up to the idea of Keenum starting, but when I watch the guy’s highlights, every 5 throws there’s a throw in which I think to myself “Yikes… that one had serious pick-6 potential”. It ain’t gonna be easy to watch him, unless we have one heck of a game plan. This is the biggest test for Dorsey yet imo 

[Franco_92]

1 hour ago, Johnnyp566 said:

Is there anyone that actually thinks he is playing? This is a joke. 

There is still a distinct chance that the injury only involved the nerve, in which case it is more likely he plays than not, it would just be a matter of the numbness and tingling going away. 

[Buffalo03]

32 minutes ago, Chaos said:

So you are saying if the Bills outscore the Vikings they have a chance to win the game? 

Lol. You know what I meant

[Mat68]

If it was bad he would already be ruled out.  I dont think Allen is the type to tell his teammates he is playing than not play.  A week of rest for his elbow and I think Allen plays.  Tonight we will get an indication.  If Barkley is brought up probably signals Allen will be held out.  I think Buffalo wins with or without Allen.  The    offense will be more multiple and more balanced. 

[BillsSbSoon]

Does anyone think he might start the game technically for the first play hand it off and in comes Keenum. 

[BillsFanSD]

1 minute ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Does anyone think he might start the game technically for the first play hand it off and in comes Keenum. 

No.  This would be pointless, but more importantly we need the active roster spot.

[BillsSbSoon]

Just now, BillsFanSD said:

No.  This would be pointless, but more importantly we need the active roster spot.

True just thinking it could be possible. 

[Mat68]

On 11/9/2022 at 12:44 PM, gridirongold said:

I've seem Cook fall forward with momentum once. The position doesn't require seasoning. Singletary is a beast and a better receiver next to Cook

Singletary has a role for sure.  I see it like NO split with Ingram and Kamara during Kamaras rookie year.  
 

Cook has more big play ability.  Give him more touches so he can take advantage of the times when the line gets everyone blocked.  Those 10 to 20 yard runs by Singletary are much bigger with Cook.  

 

They have brought Cook along very slowly.  They also have schemed up redzone plays that were also wide open but were not able to get the play off.  Put those plays in the offense more often.  
 

I don't expect Buffalo to run alot more.  I do think they need to find a way that is not so dependent on Allen for a big play.  I believe that is Cook.  5 touches a game isnt enough to show it.  Singletary needs 10 to 15 to get going.  I think you can get the same increase in output with Cook and the ceiling would be much higher.     

[Golden]

2 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

So much speculation. No one knows the severity of the injury. The media is guessing and are trying to make themselves relevant. How bout this guess. JA17 went out to practice yesterday to test his arm since he hurt it Sunday. He had a sleeve to start. But they took it off because there was no pain. When he went to run off the field he picked up the sleeve on his way out. No one really knows what’s about to happen tomorrow but the Bills . Unless it’s coming from them , and it won’t it’s meaningless to me

Yes!

[Jamie Nails]

12 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Does anyone think he might start the game technically for the first play hand it off and in comes Keenum. 

Remember when Matt Cassel took the first snap of the season and then that was it. Or something like that. Can’t exactly recall what happened there. Anyone not at that game and 25 beers deep remember the exact sequence? 

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

So much speculation. No one knows the severity of the injury. The media is guessing and are trying to make themselves relevant. How bout this guess. JA17 went out to practice yesterday to test his arm since he hurt it Sunday. He had a sleeve to start. But they took it off because there was no pain. When he went to run off the field he picked up the sleeve on his way out. No one really knows what’s about to happen tomorrow but the Bills . Unless it’s coming from them , and it won’t it’s meaningless to me

 

Except we absolutely do know the severity of it and it's very minor.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

21 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Singletary has a role for sure.  I see it like NO split with Ingram and Kamara during Kamaras rookie year.  
 

Cook has more big play ability.  Give him more touches so he can take advantage of the times when the line gets everyone blocked.  Those 10 to 20 yard runs by Singletary are much bigger with Cook.  

 

They have brought Cook along very slowly.  They also have schemed up redzone plays that were also wide open but were not able to get the play off.  Put those plays in the offense more often.  
 

I don't expect Buffalo to run alot more.  I do think they need to find a way that is not so dependent on Allen for a big play.  I believe that is Cook.  5 touches a game isnt enough to show it.  Singletary needs 10 to 15 to get going.  I think you can get the same increase in output with Cook and the ceiling would be much higher.     

I agree with this post, Allen dependent.

 

Sal C has tried to explain why Cook is being brought along slowly, is it him or Coaches, and he just was flat out guessing, because the numbers don’t match up with what he is saying.

 

Practice habits, blocking responsibilities, all I know is he is 5 ypc so far and has potential in the pass game.

 

So I agree, start getting him the ball. 
 

Allen needs more help from his OC. 

[Billz4ever]

If Josh thinks he can play, he should play.  Too much riding on this game to treat it like a loss is no big deal.  

 

As loss today, with a win by MIA, knocks us to third in the Division.

Edited November 12, 2022 by Billz4ever

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I agree with this post, Allen dependent.

 

Sal C has tried to explain why Cook is being brought along slowly, is it him or Coaches, and he just was flat out guessing, because the numbers don’t match up with what he is saying.

 

Practice habits, blocking responsibilities, all I know is he is 5 ypc so far and has potential in the pass game.

 

So I agree, start getting him the ball. 
 

Allen needs more help from his OC. 

I love Sal, but it’s hard for me to really put any analysis-driven stock about what the coaching staff is doing when he was constantly explaining us their view of “pass catchers” in the off-season. 
 

Maybe that is truly what the staff wanted, but it’s not been a success. The lack of reliability outside Diggs was an issue then, still is.  
 

So, when it comes to Cook, I’m supposed to trust that there’s a good reason to be bringing him along slowly?  I’m more of the mindset that they’ve just mishandled him so far. 

[brianthomas]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

So, when it comes to Cook, I’m supposed to trust that there’s a good reason to be bringing him along slowly?  I’m more of the mindset that they’ve just mishandled him so far. 

Could also be a combination of the 2. There's good reason to bring him along slowly. We also know we're not immune from mishandling players & game situations & new stadiums & just about anything.

For me, i've seen enough thats positive out of Devin's game & Cook's that we need to see more of a commitment to both. Singletary doesnt need to be brought along slowly, whats the excuse for him? Is a 4.4 ypc average just not good enough to cut it in the NFL?

[MJS]

3 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

My take on all this having watched mcdermotts pressers and listening to dr Chao and the banged up Bills Dr there is no chance he plays.  They are just creating doubt for the Vikings.  

I think it is much less severe than those 3rd party doctors think. Allen played in practice on Friday.

 

I could easily see it as a thing where they decided out of caution and said "we'll just rest it all week and get you some reps on Friday and see how you feel."