The blueprint is in, Buffalo has been figured out

[finn]

I've been saying that the Bills have only two blue-chip players on offense: Allen and Diggs. If one of them plays poorly, especially Allen, the offense sinks. They need at least one more elite player. The narrative is that the Bills are "stacked" on offense, but that's just not true. Knox, Singletary, and Davis are good but not great, and who else is there? MacKenzie? Kumerow? On the other hand, the defense IS stacked, and I still maintain they did ok today, if only because they held the Jets to 20 points, despite Allen turning the ball over twice. The team can still go all the way, but if they do, it will because Allen is a superstar and the defense (and coaching, imho) is excellent, not because it's anything more than an adequate offense apart from Allen. 

[Joe Ferguson]

Could you imagine if this was a playoff game? The sports world will be laughing at the Bills.

[Nuncha]

Figured out?  Hardly.  We were simply outcoached and outplayed today.  The Jets put their players in better position to win the game.  That coupled with a defense that is suddenly missing way too many tackles and a QB that is throwing complete garbage interceptions.  

Edited November 6, 2022 by Azucho98

[BillsShredder83]

39 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Offence was horrible, it’s not relative to the post in terms of the TOP and bill parcels reference to this thread.

 

 But when the defence is constantly getting gashed for 7-8 minute drives and they let up a game winning 90 yard drive that chews off 7 minutes while burning 3 time outs, they deserve a lot of blame.

You gotta try the Blitz. Worst case scenario I'd rather get gashed for 7 on 3min drive then 8mins. Force more possessions for both teams and eventually a mistake will come

 

Nothing to lose there.

Put the pressure on and atleast turn it into a shootout. We're not built on either side of the ball for a TOP war

Edited November 6, 2022 by BillsShredder83

[Chaos]

We learned what we already knew. Josh is the entire Bills team, offense and defense.  We have invested more salary cap and draft picks on defense than any other NFL team.  And we have used that investment to build a defense that works great when Allen puts incredible pressure on the other team, giving them the impression we will score on every drive.  This makes the other teams play one-dimensionally and makes it easy on the offense.   

Because of the investment on defense in the salary cap, we don't have the types of weapons on offense that KC or the Dophins have. If Allen falters, no one is on offense to pick up the slack. 

Because the defense can only be great when defending a big lead, if Allen falters, the defense cannot reliablly control the game.  Today's game ending drive was just the long drawn out painful version of 13 seconds.  
 

[BBills_88]

We going take a week or 2 off in Nov. 

 

Then in Dec we are going to catch fire. 

 

Jan - Feb we are going to go infernal & win the Superbowl with ease.

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

You gotta try the Blitz. Worst case scenario I'd rather get gashed for 7 on 3min drive then 8mins. Force more possessions for both teams and eventually a mistake will come

 

Nothing to lose there.

Put the pressure on and atleast turn it into a shootout. We're not built on either side of the ball for a TOP war

Ya This is exactly what I’m trying to say.

 

Frazier is a good DC, but he’s not right for this team.

 

When you have an elite QB, (yes he had a bad game) who cares if you give up the odd long TD.

You are literally playing right into what the other team wants to do, by controlling clock and keeping Josh on the sidelines 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, DallasBillsFan1 said:

It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl:  ball control and time of possesion.  Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands.  That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17.  You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers.  You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week.  

Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row.  Josh has regressed since the bye.  Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par.

A pile of Dooty?  The game plan is to let Allen throw picks.

[Meatloaf63]

1 hour ago, DallasBillsFan1 said:

It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl:  ball control and time of possesion.  Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands.  That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17.  You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers.  You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week.  

Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row.  Josh has regressed since the bye.  Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par.

Wilson didn’t even throw for 160 yards. Joshes bad day allowed them to be able to keep the running game as a factor. Our DC better learn how to handle it though, cause this isn’t going away.

[Process]

There's no blueprint... Josh plays like dog **** and we lose. 

 

He'll get better.

[OldTimer1960]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

And all that and STILL

 

6-2

 

tops in the AFCE

Tops in the AFC. 

0-2 in AFC East.

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, DallasBillsFan1 said:

It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl:  ball control and time of possesion.  Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands.  That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17.  You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers.  You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week.  

Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row.  Josh has regressed since the bye.  Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par.

Keeping the ball out of someone's hands is the most overrated expression ot there.  What it does is limit to the total possessons that team has, doesn't make them any worse...but it also limits YOUR possessions by 'shortening' the game. When you play a star/superstar offense, 'keeping the ball' out of their hands should not be your strategy....instead doing what you do the best to score should be.  Giving the bills less possesions isn't doing much for you if you don't score yourself.  The bills lost not becuase you kept Josh on the sidelines for a few minutes more....the bills lost because when they did have the ball they didn't execute. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

44 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We can't run and other teams can run on us. Sound familiar. 

qb1 mustache…. It’s a problem 

[Meatloaf63]

49 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

It’s bad. It just pisses me off that we have a qb like Allen and then give him Diggs but beyond that give him JAGs. Meanwhile…the d gets every resource thrown at it. 

And then they crap the bed. 

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, DallasBillsFan1 said:

It's the old Bill Parcells / Giants approach used to beat Buffalo in the Superbowl:  ball control and time of possesion.  Run the ball often and effectively thereby keeping the ball out of Josh's hands.  That and putting A LOT of pressure on JA17.  You saw Green Bay do it last week and now the Jets ... only Wilson had more production than A Rogers.  You also saw that the Buffalo offense was not on the field for long periods of time last week and this week.  

Granted, Bills had an off day, but that makes two weeks in a row.  Josh has regressed since the bye.  Tough to watch that pile of dooty today ... all three phases were sub par.

Oh, and by the way, he has been 'figured out' by putting a LOT of pressure on him and giving him less chances to score? Great thing no one else was smart enough to figure that out, apparently that blueprint was never tried before.  Geez.  Having the Jets ACCOMPLISH that doesn't mean they are the first team to 'figure out the blueprint'.

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

0-2 in AFC East.

Meaning what?  Ooo nothing. Got it. 

[whorlnut]

1 minute ago, Meatloaf63 said:

And then they crap the bed. 

Exactly. McD will whine to Beane that he needs another piece on defense and he’ll get it in the first round. Rinse. Repeat. 

[OldTimer1960]

11 minutes ago, Azucho98 said:

Figured out?  Hardly.  We were simply outcoached and outplayed today.  The Jets put their players in better position to win the game.  That coupled with a defense that is suddenly missing way too many tackles and a QB that is throwing complete garbage interceptions.  

They miss Poyer and Hyde, particularly in run D.  They were also missing Milano which was big.  The offense was the problem today.  As another poster said, it is Allen and Diggs with a little support from Singletary.  Davis had a big week or two after his injury, but nothing since and I root for McKenzie, but he is only a decent backup.

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Meaning what?  Ooo nothing. Got it. 

What is their lead in the division?  

[stinky finger]

53 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Defense? They scored 17 points on offense. How does anyone blame the defense?

 

 I agree, the offense is not performimg but the D isn't holding up it's end of the bargain either.

 

The whole team is in a funk.

 

Shake it off, figure it out. We'll be fine. 

 

I wasn't on the OBJ train, but have changed my mind. He is needed.

[BillsFan130]

7 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Keeping the ball out of someone's hands is the most overrated expression ot there.  What it does is limit to the total possessons that team has, doesn't make them any worse...but it also limits YOUR possessions by 'shortening' the game. When you play a star/superstar offense, 'keeping the ball' out of their hands should not be your strategy....instead doing what you do the best to score should be.  Giving the bills less possesions isn't doing much for you if you don't score yourself.  The bills lost not becuase you kept Josh on the sidelines for a few minutes more....the bills lost because when they did have the ball they didn't execute. 

I mean, yes you’re right in terms of the scoring.

 

But when you limit Josh’s possessions , that’s a huge win for the Jets.

 

They can’t win a shootout with the bills and they knew it.

 

I think they had three, 8 minute drives. That was a huge factor in the game