CoudyBills Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, BadboyBills said: We just need to execute like how we were before. Before the last few weeks, teams believed that blitzing Josh would get you killed, because it would. Lately it has not at all. Quote
Nelius Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 It’s unfortunately very clear that Knox isn’t making the impact that we all expected. Obviously the same can be said for Gabe but that’s been discussed to death. I think most expected both of these guys to make the leap this year. They haven’t, so now go get help. Quote
ngbills Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Absolutely. Gabe can’t get open. Or catch Obj needs to be en route now. Quote
whorlnut Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: Dorsey is struggling right now with his game flow and play calling. Also, he could really benefit from a legitimate WR2. It’s beyond obvious that against good defenses, Davis and McKenzie are let downs. Nice complimentary pieces (Davis especially) but not focal points game in / game out. In a pass heavy offense, your #2 WR needs to be reliable. Would you rather have Kelce, MVS, Juju and Hardman or Diggs, Davis, McKenzie and Knox. It’s sad that even after losing Tyreek Hill, I’d take what KC has right now. We can dunk on teams without good secondary play. But guys who can cover?… Davis and McKenzie can’t do anything and Dorsey seems unable - so far - to scheme them open. A lot of TBD posters called out the FO for not addressing WR … and here we are. Sometimes posters are right. If OBJ doesn’t come here and be at least 75% of what he was … we need somebody to step up or this offense is, once again, reliant upon Josh Allen being the best player the NFL has ever seen in the playoffs. The writing is on the wall. I’ve been talked off the ledge many times but this is getting crazy. It’s clear we don’t have reliable playmakers outside of Diggs. The neglect on the offensive side is really showing. Yet…McD will see it as we couldn’t stop the run and beg Beane for a DT in the draft. That’s just where we are with a defensive coach… 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 No doubt. It's time to admit that we don't have a true #2 WR on the roster. Davis had an AWFUL game. He has shown himself to be nothing more than a role player. 1 3 Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nelius said: It’s unfortunately very clear that Knox isn’t making the impact that we all expected. Obviously the same can be said for Gabe but that’s been discussed to death. I think most expected both of these guys to make the leap this year. They haven’t, so now go get help. I have to give Knox a little pass. Losing your brother can really take a bit to get through. 3 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) There's a lot of things off. The O-line blocking, receivers getting open, being on the same page w/ Josh & Josh's reads, accuracy & trust. Doesn't look like an easy fix. Let's hope Josh's arm is ok. All that said, Gabe has been a disappointment this year, I thought he was going to have a monster year but he's wildly inconsistent, same with McKenzie & Shakir. OBJ may not fix everything, but he can't hurt. Edited November 6, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, Nelius said: It’s unfortunately very clear that Knox isn’t making the impact that we all expected. Obviously the same can be said for Gabe but that’s been discussed to death. I think most expected both of these guys to make the leap this year. They haven’t, so now go get help. Yeah… I expected Gabe to be the guy that attacks that ball through the defender and brings it down. It hit his chest… the upside is he’s going to be affordable. Didn’t make the leap. Quote
SCBills Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Yeah… I expected Gabe to be the guy that attacks that ball through the defender and brings it down. It hit his chest… the upside is he’s going to be affordable. Didn’t make the leap. Affordable? Whoever this Gabe Davis is can walk. Tennessee has a couple WR’s on that team alone that can take his role on a rookie contract. Biggest issue is finding a WR2. Knox isn’t it from the TE position. Good player still… not it. McKenzie is a joke as a full time slot. If the Bills are going to be this pass heavy, they need a true WR2 that allows Davis to be the big play threat that can boom or bust game to game without wrecking the offense. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Game on the line, Allen managed to drop a 60 yard pass in the bucket on 4th and 21. We need better than this from our supposed #2 WR. And I don't want to hear complaints about a missed DPI, Davis also pushed off a bit so I'm fine with the refs letting them play on this one. He simply has to make the catch. 4 3 Quote
Andy1 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Knox is good not great. Shaikir is still tbd I agree. I think he has been underperforming this year. His production seems off from last year. Quote
SCBills Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: Game on the line, Allen managed to drop a 60 yard pass in the bucket on 4th and 21. We need better than this from our supposed #2 WR. And I don't want to hear complaints about a missed DPI, Davis also pushed off a bit so I'm fine with the refs letting them play on this one. He simply has to make the catch. Im going to pretend I didn’t see this, because I’m already irrationally disgusted at Gabe Davis and his lack of growth in this offense .. and I don’t know if I can handle a second replay of that. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Andy1 said: I agree. I think he has been underperforming this year. His production seems off from last year. Understandable… but I’m not sure how this needs to be addressed at this level of performance expectation Quote
Steptide Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 That final throw to Gabe was as perfect a throw as you can get. These wide receivers need a swift kick in the ass. Having said that, Dorsey needs to be a bit more creative with the offense. It's like the only passes Allen has are deep throws or dump offs to singeltary 2 2 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Im going to pretend I didn’t see this, because I’m already irrationally disgusted at Gabe Davis and his lack of growth in this offense .. and I don’t know if I can handle a second replay of that. thats where To find some disappointment… remember when Chris hogan makes that catch with every fiber of his being??? Quote
GolfandBills Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Nelius said: It’s unfortunately very clear that Knox isn’t making the impact that we all expected. Obviously the same can be said for Gabe but that’s been discussed to death. I think most expected both of these guys to make the leap this year. They haven’t, so now go get help. Buyers remorse on Knox. That a lot of money for no production. 2 Quote
Andy1 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) That last throw by Josh was perfect. Hopefully, that is a sign that there was no serious damage to his arm. Gabe is an enigma. He can be great, or not. Edited November 6, 2022 by Andy1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Making Davis #3 will increase his production? Anyway, the receivers weren’t the dominant problem today Quote
HappyDays Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Making Davis #3 will increase his production? Anyway, the receivers weren’t the dominant problem today Outside of Diggs, who is playing better this year than I've ever seen him, we got next to nothing out of our weapons today. Allen was both the primary issue on offense today AND the only reason we were able to move the ball and score. That's a big problem. Our RBs couldn't rip off big runs, we had zero screen game, no big run after the catch on a single completion. Making Davis the #3 won't increase his production necessarily but it will increase the production of the passing offense as a whole. In fact I think it's arguable he would see his own production increased because we can use him in his preferred role as a vertical only WR who takes advantage of openings created by our other weapons. 3 Quote
JMM Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: I think McD is too stubborn when it comes to playing rookies. Shakir needs to take over the slot role. McKenzie is a gadget player, and the experiment needs to end. Shakir might not be the guy, but we need to find out. THIS!!! 1 1 1 Quote
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