Why oh why are we not establishing a running game ?

[Augie]

11 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

But Beane has nobody to blame but himself. Ford was a garbage 2nd round pick and traded for peanuts. We need to draft linemen, linemen, and more linemen before Allen gets catastrophically injured. 

 

Let’s not get carried away. I appreciate what our GM has created. Beane has built one of the best rosters in the league. Every team has weaknesses. Our #1 problem is OL. That has to be next, but in the meantime we need to get as far as we can this year. 

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

No speed is not really true.  That said I just saw Kupp run past the TB defense and he ran a slower 40 than Singletary.  Singletary's speed is just fine for establishing a running game if we cared to do that.

Agree to disagree. 

[nedboy7]

If Josh didn't throw 2 ints I am certain we win that game. 

[RunTheBall]

When are we allowed to question Dorsey’s play calling? I’m starting to question his ability to adjust. We only have Allen and Diggs, that’s it. He’s not scheming open easy throws and has all but abandoned the running game. you can get away with that when Allen is playing lights out but when he’s playing crappy there’s no adjustment.

 

[Augie]

Just now, nedboy7 said:

If Josh didn't throw 2 ints I am certain we win that game. 

 

Those were, inexplicably, two of the worst throws of his career. 

[Marvin]

Unlike others, I an willing to sacrifice prizes at the skill positions to upgrade the offencive line.  That will improve the running game, protect Allen, and allow the lesser receivers which we would have more time to get open.

[FireChans]

11 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

6 of Singletary's 8 carries came on drives we scored TD's.  All the other drives he gets 2 carries and we get 3 points.

Singletary had 24 yards my dude. He ain’t it

 

We Scored TD’s because of Josh Running lol

Edited November 6, 2022 by FireChans

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

OL is weak for sure.  I expect Dorsey to be a little more creative about this.  I mean some of it seems to be the play-calling.  Is this not something that can be improved? 

 

I don't love the playcalling. Haven't all year. I know the consensus has been he is an upgrade on Daboll but that isn't what I have seen. I don't see the same route combinations that make defenders make choices. I think they are getting a simpler dial on their responsibility. 

 

But the OL is and always has been the biggest issue IMO.

[Maine-iac]

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Singletary had 24 yards my dude. He ain’t it

 

We Scored TD’s because of Josh Running lol

You have to udnerstand that some things are a sum of their parts.  The big picture.  If week after week you see us scoring when they run Motor more than twice then it's recognizable that no matter what his stats are running the ball makes a difference.  

Edited November 6, 2022 by Maine-iac

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

You have to udnerstand that some things are a sum of their parts.  The big picture.  If week after week you see us scoring when they run Motor more than twice then it's recognizable that no matter what his stats are running the ball makes a difference.  

You have to understand correlation and causation.

 

If we score more often when Singletary gets more than 2 carries, its probably BECAUSE it's a long drive and then yeah of course we are gonna score.

 

I'm sure we score more when Josh passed more than 5 times in a drive compared to less. Because we punt otherwise lmao.

 

8 for 24.

Edited November 6, 2022 by FireChans

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

You have to understand correlation and causation.

 

If we score more often when Singletary gets more than 2 carries, its probably BECAUSE it's a long drive and then yeah of course we are gonna score.

 

8 for 24.

So yo are saying we have longer drives when we give him more carries ......................

[Mango]

I think our OL sucks. It’s not terrible but it’s a little better than “meh”. I think Dawkins is good but not great. Both guards are up and down. And we still have needs at RT but we’re “serviceable”

 

Morse is our best OL and there is a good chance he won’t be here next year. I’d be OK with moving Dawkins inside if they find an OT they really like in the draft. I think Buffalo goes OL early and often in 23. 

[Juice_32]

35 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

Because they can’t 

Dorsey can’t make the OL figure out how to block or anyone else other than Diggs learn how to get open 

Its his job to figure out a way to be balanced. The jet sweep worked, first time he’s called that all year. Where’s the screens and draws? He called a poor game, hopefully he gets better. I think he will.

[Maine-iac]

I'm just messing with you now ................ still it's a big picture thing, not individual stats.

[BillsPride12]

Because we can't?

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

So yo are saying we have longer drives when we give him more carries ......................

I'm saying we give him more carries because it's a longer drive lol

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Gene1973 said:

It's like a broken record. All offseason, most fans knew there needed to be an upgrade to the run game. Beane still hasn't added a runner. Bills had the same issues last season about this time of the year.

 

 

And in the third quarter of the season they got the run game figured out

[Maine-iac]

The upgrade to our running game that is needed is the amount of carries.   Our OL makes mistakes in passing and running but last year and this year when we run the ball more we score more points.  Our problem has never been the RB's and whatever problems our OL has they have both running and passing but from a defensive perspective if we just throw all the time we are easier to stop.  We've shown in last season and this season.

 

ps

Just for the record I could care less if it's Cook or Motor just run the ball more.

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said:

Why are we put 4 DL and 2 LB for a 6 man box when teams are intent on running on us?

Wrong thread?

[DJB]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 Facts are facts. Yet there is a reason they picked up Cook and Hines, they want more explosiveness. It will not appear often enough until we can control the LOS. THAT is where the game is won, or lost….like today. 

 

I dont disagree we needed an upgrade on the oline as well. Its simply not good enough for sure. 
 

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Edited November 6, 2022 by DJB