NFL teams want trade deadline moved

[Steel City Mafia]

 

[StHustle]

I stand with Beane! Keep the deadline where it is!

[LeGOATski]

Week 9 at the latest. I'm putting my foot down.

[CSBill]

If it did go back, many more players would be dumped. They would basically be deciding who's in and who's out of the playoffs in week 10.

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, CSBill said:

If it did go back, many more players would be dumped. They would basically be deciding who's in and who's out of the playoffs in week 10.

 

Exactly. The risk is more fire sales which means less competitive games down the stretch. Take Indy this year as an example... they beat Kansas City early. But they are not a great team get to week 10 they are 3-6-1 the season is done, the coach and GM suspect they are out after the year... they trade a couple of Leonard, Pittman, Taylor and Nelson... what does it matter? Then another contender, say the Chargers for the sake of argument (not sure they are a true contender but stay with me) play a seriously weaker Colts team down the road. 

 

I don't like it. Maybe in reality it wouldn't come to pass but I don't want to create a situation where it could. Keep the deadline after week 8. It is perfect where it is.

[Dan Darragh]

Interferes with Halloween the way it is now.

[Buddo]

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Exactly. The risk is more fire sales which means less competitive games down the stretch. Take Indy this year as an example... they beat Kansas City early. But they are not a great team get to week 10 they are 3-6-1 the season is done, the coach and GM suspect they are out after the year... they trade a couple of Leonard, Pittman, Taylor and Nelson... what does it matter? Then another contender, say the Chargers for the sake of argument (not sure they are a true contender but stay with me) play a seriously weaker Colts team down the road. 

 

I don't like it. Maybe in reality it wouldn't come to pass but I don't want to create a situation where it could. Keep the deadline after week 8. It is perfect where it is.

 

I tend to agree. There are too many things to do with competitive advantages/disadvantages, that could be messed up.

 

Tbh, what they really need to look at, is to make rosters a bit bigger, and that would negate some of the calls for moving the transfer deadline.

 

Currently, teams make trades late, mainly due to injury needs, rather than to actually improve their roster. Obviously that isn't the sole reason, but having more guys available because teams already know their season is done, is going to negate a lot of ideas about building a roster through FA and the draft.

 

Tbh, I think it needs to be left, as a matter of principle, at a point where the vast majority of teams, still are mathmatically capable of reaching the playoffs. Currently, Week 8 seems to do that.

 

[Rochesterfan]

33 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Exactly. The risk is more fire sales which means less competitive games down the stretch. Take Indy this year as an example... they beat Kansas City early. But they are not a great team get to week 10 they are 3-6-1 the season is done, the coach and GM suspect they are out after the year... they trade a couple of Leonard, Pittman, Taylor and Nelson... what does it matter? Then another contender, say the Chargers for the sake of argument (not sure they are a true contender but stay with me) play a seriously weaker Colts team down the road. 

 

I don't like it. Maybe in reality it wouldn't come to pass but I don't want to create a situation where it could. Keep the deadline after week 8. It is perfect where it is.

 

Agreed, but not only that - using your example maybe the Chargers who right now are middle of the road - use the deadline to buy Leonard and Pittman and become a better team along with weakening an opponent.

 

I think the trade deadline is fine - much later and it has to much potential impact on the seasons outcomes.

 

 

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Exactly. The risk is more fire sales which means less competitive games down the stretch. Take Indy this year as an example... they beat Kansas City early. But they are not a great team get to week 10 they are 3-6-1 the season is done, the coach and GM suspect they are out after the year... they trade a couple of Leonard, Pittman, Taylor and Nelson... what does it matter? Then another contender, say the Chargers for the sake of argument (not sure they are a true contender but stay with me) play a seriously weaker Colts team down the road. 

 

I don't like it. Maybe in reality it wouldn't come to pass but I don't want to create a situation where it could. Keep the deadline after week 8. It is perfect where it is.

Being British you may not know this, but you just described Major League Baseball. The season is 6 months long and the deadline is at the end of the fourth month. Every year there is a lot of discussion of which teams are buyers and which are sellers. Teams with strong financial situations can use the first four months as an evaluation period and fix it all at the deadline. The Atlanta Braves were one game under .500 in 2021 at the deadline. They revamped their team at the deadline by trading for 5 players and went on to win the World Series. A whole bunch of franchises serve as de facto development teams for the big market teams. It’s the same dynamic that saw Everton sell a peak Wayne Rooney to Manchester United. I want to avoid that for the NFL in any way possible. The fact that I’m saying all this as a bitter Reds fan doesn’t make it any less true.

Edited November 6, 2022 by FrenchConnection

[Kmart128]

I think deadline should be exactly half way during the season. So probably right around week 9

[K D]

Why even have a deadline? If someone is willing to give up picks to try and win then let them do it. It would benefit the bad teams more than the good teams. There's still a salary cap so you can't grab every good player to make a super team because you still need to afford them

[Low Positive]

How about no in-season trading at all? The teams and the NFL media would never go for that, but I think teams should have to dance with what they came with.

[Since1981]

Feels like this would create a further mercenary style league. NFL is built $ from stars on their teams. I wouldn’t like mad player shuffle as teams enter playoffs. 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Since1981

[78thealltimegreat]

I could see moving it to the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Seems like that would give teams more time if they are buyers or sellers. 

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said:

How about no in-season trading at all? The teams and the NFL media would never go for that, but I think teams should have to dance with what they came with.

I kind of like the idea, but then teams wouldn’t be able to restock at all after injuries to a key position early in the season.   See: the Bills at safety in 2022.

[DC Greg]

49 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

Feels like this would create a further mercenary style league. NFL is built $ from stars on their teams. I wouldn’t like mad player shuffle as teams enter playoffs. 

 

Agree with this. NFL doesn't need to turn into the NBA any more than it already has. I don't understand how anyone can even stick with a team in the NBA at this point. The jersey the players are wearing means nothing.

[Low Positive]

6 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

I kind of like the idea, but then teams wouldn’t be able to restock at all after injuries to a key position early in the season.   See: the Bills at safety in 2022.

Teams could still sign players from other teams’ practice squads.

[Rc2catch]

I think this years movement at the deadline shows it should stay as is. 
I was wrong thinking it would come and go as usual with minimal moves. But I don’t want to see baseball like moves every year where the entire landscape of the league changes for the last quarter playoff push. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Exactly. The risk is more fire sales which means less competitive games down the stretch. Take Indy this year as an example... they beat Kansas City early. But they are not a great team get to week 10 they are 3-6-1 the season is done, the coach and GM suspect they are out after the year... they trade a couple of Leonard, Pittman, Taylor and Nelson... what does it matter? Then another contender, say the Chargers for the sake of argument (not sure they are a true contender but stay with me) play a seriously weaker Colts team down the road. 

 

I don't like it. Maybe in reality it wouldn't come to pass but I don't want to create a situation where it could. Keep the deadline after week 8. It is perfect where it is.

 

 

If they are a 3 win team 10 weeks in with Leonard, Taylor and Pittman, how much weaker do they become after such trades?  

 

I don't see an owner letting his lame duck HC/GM gut the roster on their way out the door.

[HOUSE]

Oh God, another two weeks of ridiculous trade rumors ...

Just kill me now....