FLFan Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I like this move. He is definitely a step up in athleticism and potential over Hodgins who had pretty much topped out based on his limitations. Let's see what the Bills can do with him. Perhaps next year's training camp star? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, T master said: Why did they let Hogins go in the first place after all the time they have invested in him & when ever he has been on the field he has produced maybe not a lot but when you have all the other weapons out there there's not a lot he can do but catch what little is thrown his way . Who else are you cutting from the 53 to make room for White, Marlow and Hines? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 So much for the failed Hodgins experiment. Thanks a lot, Beane! Just kidding, and glad the young man signed on to be up on the squad. Congrats to him. Two things, though, it is a little frustrating just in the sense that we worked him up and yes we don't have toe space right now, but he is going to give that skill to another team. Petty, I know, but still. The other thing is, I love Dabol...but he is starting to get on my nerves. Develop your own talent, joker. 😁 BTW, I am not really listening to the "we did that with Carolina" thing. On the field what long term talent did we get from them? Benjamin? Star? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Who else are you cutting from the 53 to make room for White, Marlow and Hines? Hodgins was on the PS i thought then they sign this guy to the PS that's what i'm not getting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Nothing to be excited about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, NewEra said: We have our Hodgins replacement. Similar in height and length. Opposite in athleticism. Coulter is a high upside low floor WR that needs lots of work on everything other than his physical attributes. Doesn’t seem like a guy that can help us this year if needed. More like a guy that we should invest some time into to see if he can improve. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/isaiah-coulter/3200434f-5516-0662-8b6d-a1ee4723ab0a GEEZ! He SUCKS! ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, T master said: Hodgins was on the PS i thought then they sign this guy to the PS that's what i'm not getting . After the rash of WR injuries, Hodgins had been promoted to the 53-man roster. To get him back on the PS, he had to be waived, go unclaimed, then re-signed to the PS by the Bills. I suspect that was the plan. The Giants foiled the plan by putting in a waiver claim for Hodgins and picking him up. Thus, the Bills had to go with Plan B, which is signing Coulter. The disadvantage of Coulter is that he is very raw and doesn't know the system, so Hodgins was more valuable to the team right now. The advantage of Coulter is that he has similar size to Hodgins, with more athleticism, so in the long run, with some good coaching, he may end up being the more valuable player to the team. If the team avoids further WR injuries this season, then the move is a net plus for the team (and conversely, if they have injuries and need someone to play in the next couple of weeks, it's a net minus, and it's Gentry time). Edited November 3, 2022 by msw2112 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: At least more of an outside guy. Hodgins for all his size is really a big slot type prospect in the NFL. Coulter was an intriguing late round speed/size project coming out of a small school in the 2020 draft. He has barely had a shot in the NFL but the Bills are obviously willing to gamble that two and a half years on the raw ingredients remain. His two NFL stops have been Houston in the Bill O'Brien firing year (with covid and no pre-season) and the Bears... so hardly stable organisations. He is probably in the last chance saloon as far as an NFL career goes so he should at least be motivated and the Bills coaching staff will unquestionably be the best coaching he has ever been around. So here's hoping. Do those two stops even count as NFL experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PolishPrince said: I actually was there and remember the night he was conceived, wild night I have the very first picture ever taken of Isaiah! Maybe I can get it autographed at the game on Sunday! Edited November 3, 2022 by HereComesTheReignAgain 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: I have the very first picture ever taken of Isaiah! Maybe I can get it autographed at the game on Sunday! There are some sick people on this board. 😆 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, CSBill said: Do those two stops even count as NFL experience? Ha. Good question. I don't know if he has actually played at all? I haven't checked but if he has it is special teams and a handful of snaps at best. The receivers coach at Chicago last year is now the Head Football Coach at Limestone University.... whatever that means. His receivers coach at Houston has just been demoted from the Offensive Coordinator position at Sam Houston State after 5 games in the job. So yea... it might be fair to say they were not the right guys to unlock whatever potential exists! Edited November 3, 2022 by GunnerBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, T master said: Why did they let Hogins go in the first place after all the time they have invested in him & when ever he has been on the field he has produced maybe not a lot but when you have all the other weapons out there there's not a lot he can do but catch what little is thrown his way . Giants picked him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: I have the very first picture ever taken of Isaiah! Maybe I can get it autographed at the game on Sunday! Must have been paparazzi hiding behind the bush... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, T master said: Why did they let Hogins go in the first place after all the time they have invested in him & when ever he has been on the field he has produced maybe not a lot but when you have all the other weapons out there there's not a lot he can do but catch what little is thrown his way . They had to cut someone from the 53 to activate Tre. I'm sure the plan was sign Hodgins back if he cleared waivers but the Giants pounced so the Bills moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Too bad we lost Hodgins, we could have been the first team to have 3 WR's named Isaiah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, T master said: Hodgins was on the PS i thought then they sign this guy to the PS that's what i'm not getting . Hodgins was on the 53 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLeonard Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Interesting that they cut their only PS Safety in order to sign a 3rd WR to the PS. Hopefully, that's a good sign regarding Poyer's availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Has an overall RAS Score of 6.67. Listed as having "Good" explosions and size with "Great" speed. Maybe another 5th round pick (Diggs) can mentor him, and Hall can coach him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 He's not a real burner (sub 4.4 guy) but he has plenty of speed and athleticism to go with nice size. He's not quite as big as Isaiah Hodgins. His shortcomings coming out of college had a lot to do with execution. He's had a couple years in the league now (Houston and Chicago practice squads mostly). He was on the 53 man roster for Chicago this season for Chicago, cut when Chicago traded for Claypool. If he's really dedicated, he can probably get a lot better with good coaching than he was coming out of college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 11/3/2022 at 11:55 AM, dollars 2 donuts said: So much for the failed Hodgins experiment. Thanks a lot, Beane! Just kidding, and glad the young man signed on to be up on the squad. Congrats to him. Two things, though, it is a little frustrating just in the sense that we worked him up and yes we don't have toe space right now, but he is going to give that skill to another team. Petty, I know, but still. The other thing is, I love Dabol...but he is starting to get on my nerves. Develop your own talent, joker. 😁 BTW, I am not really listening to the "we did that with Carolina" thing. On the field what long term talent did we get from them? Benjamin? Star? Hodgins is also fully developed and that is a fringe 53 player with questionable separation ability. So instead have the same physical profile as Hodgins with much more athleticism to work with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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