Was the Bronco's 2018 Draft the Worst in NFL History?

[BADOLBILZ]

On 11/2/2022 at 6:51 PM, Aussie Joe said:

Remember when a lot of people here used to cry about the Mahomes draft/ trade with the Bills ?

 

We dont hear a lot about that anymore for some reason...

 

 

Good question........because it's not because Allen has won an MVP,  been to 4 straight AFC championships and 2 Super Bowls,  won a Super Bowl and eliminated/defeated Mahomes in the postseason the past two seasons.    

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Good question........because it's not because Allen has won an MVP,  been to 4 straight AFC championships and 2 Super Bowls,  won a Super Bowl and eliminated/defeated Mahomes in the postseason the past two seasons.    

I look at the future …not the past 

[RiotAct]

with the benefit of hindsight… it’s definitely in the running!

[Albany,n.y.]

Not even close to the worst that year. The Jets have only 1 player left from that draft (3rd rounder Nathan Shepherd) and he's only started 9 games in 4.5 seasons, including none this season.  Worse yet, they gave up 2018 picks 6, 37 and 49 and 2019 pick 34 to move up to 3 to select Darnold at #3 overall.  

1    3     Sam Darnold     QB       

3    72   Nathan Shepherd     DT      
4    107  Chris Herndon     TE       
6    179  Parry Nickerson     CB     
6    180  Folorunso Fatukasi     DT    
6    204  New York Jets    Trenton Cannon     RB    

[Bill from NYC]

3 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Actually, I think Burris and Rogers elevates this in the decent category, let alone not "worst of all time".  Marlo Perry and Lonnie Johnson has some moments as well.  Not great, but far from terrible.  

Not so many Pro Bowl players on that list. Lonnie Johnson DID have some moments.....all of them bad.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

I look at the future …not the past 

 

 

Yet you were literally dredging up the past. 

 

We've stopped talking about it only because we like our QB and are focused on maybe winning a SB this season.  

 

But at the same time it's neither a score that can be settled or a mistake that can be rectified in just one season.........the 2017 Bills draft hierarchy created their biggest obstacle to the SB for the subsequent 6 seasons and counting with that trade and are literally 0-2 versus Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs and have had to watch them play in 2 SB's and win 1.

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

Without even reading through this thread, how in the HECK does the OP NOT summarize the entire draft in question or at least list the picks? Really bad form here. Come on. Provide some darned content for us to consider and respond to.

[Aussie Joe]

5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yet you were literally dredging up the past. 

 

We've stopped talking about it only because we like our QB and are focused on maybe winning a SB this season.  

 

But at the same time it's neither a score that can be settled or a mistake that can be rectified in just one season.........the 2017 Bills draft hierarchy created their biggest obstacle to the SB for the subsequent 6 seasons and counting with that trade and are literally 0-2 versus Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs and have had to watch them play in 2 SB's and win 1.

 

 

Regardless of what has happened the past 4 seasons… who do you want now as your QB moving forward ?

 

Would he (Mahomes) have won a SB here by now if they drafted him? Different team around him, different coaching …

 

We both know who was to blame in the last playoff game…

 

I hope the Chiefs fans enjoyed beating us the past two years because the following games they stunk …and ended the season with the same result as us…. no championship…

 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

On 11/2/2022 at 6:59 PM, co_springs_billsfan said:

How about the Saints trading all of this for Ricky Williams:

 

1999 - 1st (12th Overall)

1999 - 3rd

1999 - 4th

1999 - 5th

1999 - 6th

1999 - 7th

2000 - 1st (2nd Overall)

2000 - 3rd

Was Ditka paid to sabotage the Saints? One has to wonder 🤷🏼‍♂️…

[co_springs_billsfan]

1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Was Ditka paid to sabotage the Saints? One has to wonder 🤷🏼‍♂️…

The original "***** them picks"

[CoudyBills]

On 11/2/2022 at 8:30 PM, mannc said:

Hard to top Seattle trading two firsts and a third to the Jets for a safety.  

A safety that couldn't cover my dead grandmother.

[GoBills808]

The Browns passed on Allen twice in that draft to pick Mayfield and Denzel Ward

[Mike in Horseheads]

39 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

The Browns passed on Allen twice in that draft to pick Mayfield and Denzel Ward

Well with that great pick of Baker they didn't need another QB

[BADOLBILZ]

14 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Regardless of what has happened the past 4 seasons… who do you want now as your QB moving forward ?

 

Would he (Mahomes) have won a SB here by now if they drafted him? Different team around him, different coaching …

 

We both know who was to blame in the last playoff game…

 

I hope the Chiefs fans enjoyed beating us the past two years because the following games they stunk …and ended the season with the same result as us…. no championship…

 

 

 

 

It was just a nonsensical thing for you to bring up.   Then after looking at the scoreboard you say you don't want to live in the past..........and then pose a bunch of hypotheticals about the past and the future.    Scoreboard is the name of the game in sports.

 

The reality is that they aren't going to win that trade.  It's already cost them two playoff eliminations.   They got Tre White and Tremaine Edmunds out of the deal(after a little sweetening to trade up) and they will both likely be retired while Mahomes is in still in his prime in his early-mid 30's.

 

Maybe Allen goes on to win a SB or more and has a greater career than Mahomes but right now Mahomes is playing a style of game that lends itself to longevity.   Allen is going into uncharted waters with the amount of running he does........no QB that has run anywhere near as much as Allen has remained elite past year 8(Allen is in year 5).  

 

 So my advice is live in the present with a QB like Allen........and save the victory laps until there is a victory to lap about.   

[HOUSE]

If I was the GM in New England,  I take the exact same players 

[Airseven]

15 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Without even reading through this thread, how in the HECK does the OP NOT summarize the entire draft in question or at least list the picks? Really bad form here. Come on. Provide some darned content for us to consider and respond to.

Bad form is Bills fans calling out another team for struggling to find a franchise QB. It took the Bills 22 years to do it.

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It was just a nonsensical thing for you to bring up.   Then after looking at the scoreboard you say you don't want to live in the past..........and then pose a bunch of hypotheticals about the past and the future.    Scoreboard is the name of the game in sports.

 

The reality is that they aren't going to win that trade.  It's already cost them two playoff eliminations.   They got Tre White and Tremaine Edmunds out of the deal(after a little sweetening to trade up) and they will both likely be retired while Mahomes is in still in his prime in his early-mid 30's.

 

Maybe Allen goes on to win a SB or more and has a greater career than Mahomes but right now Mahomes is playing a style of game that lends itself to longevity.   Allen is going into uncharted waters with the amount of running he does........no QB that has run anywhere near as much as Allen has remained elite past year 8(Allen is in year 5).  

 

 So my advice is live in the present with a QB like Allen........and save the victory laps until there is a victory to lap about.   

And now you are posing  “ hypotheticals” predicting players longevity… So you are living in the future too? Good on you…

 

It beats living in the past crying about a trade 5 years ago … like I said…  Mahomes beat the Bills twice ( “ two playoff eliminations”) but what did that lead to for them…  the following games  in the SB and particularly against the Bengals he was terrible…..he cost them a championship last year with his performance in the 2nd half of that AFC title game …

 

I’m going to live in the present for the moment and and enjoy this season..…with the hope it leads to a Championship…. They are looking pretty good.. If we get a victory lap I’ll let you know …

 

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

We could also check some Cleveland and Detroit drafts and see some bad ones.

[Richard Noggin]

8 hours ago, Airseven said:

Bad form is Bills fans calling out another team for struggling to find a franchise QB. It took the Bills 22 years to do it.

You sure do love your fellow Bills fans and the team they root for.