UKBillFan Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lost said: No, I'd say this is much worse. Moss wasn't that bad in a log of situations and a fraction of the salary we're now gonna be paying Hines. Nearly $5/yr in 2023 and 2024? That's double what Singletary was getting at RB1. I would have rather resigned Singletary next season but I think this all but sealed his fate. 🤷♂️ Apologies if someone has replied but there's no dead cap if we release him for next season. If he doesn't perform, we cut him. If he does, we probably re-draw his contract anyway. Quote
billsfan_34 Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, H2o said: In a corresponding move, the Bills release Zack Moss. Now Hines gets to take his place on the inactives list on game day. If Hines plays some STs then Taiwan may be inactive. Quote
Billz4ever Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Airseven said: Agreed. The simple fact they had to trade for Hines after using a 2nd round pick on RB could also be labeled insane. McKissic really did a number on Beane. Biggest takeaway here is that Singletary is now 101% gone after the season. They only gave up a 6th rounder and a dude people here would've given away for a song. It cost us next to nothing to bring him here and given our offensive playstyle, fits right in. Quote
Mango Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, ScottLaw said: Fans want McKenzie off the field because he’s an incredible spaz at times and makes way too many mental mistakes… not sure about you but I’m holding my breath every time he has the ball in his hands/is targeted. Right, I understand why people want McKenzie off the field. I am not arguing that he shouldn't. I was saying that the problem isn't that we needed an upgrade behind McKenzie. Shakir and Cook are already on the roster and not taking any meaningful snaps away from McKenzie. Hell, we just gave our TE a $15M AAV extension. For reference, in 2020 Travis Kelce was targeted, as in the ball was thrown to him, 110 times when lined up in the slot. Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, L Ron Burgundy said: He's a receiving rb that played for a team that could no longer pass. Their QB was 4th in yards when benched and is still 6th in the league. The team is 9th in passing yards per game. Something don't smell right!! Hmm. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/offense/stat/passing/table/passing/sort/netPassingYardsPerGame/dir/desc Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 Yet another receiving threat for Josh Allen to utilize, this is actually a very underrated pickup that I like him a bit better than the Washington RB we were going to pickup in FA. 25 receptions already this season but I'm really going to miss the 2 run plays up the middle from Zack Moss, how about you guys? 1 Quote
NewEra Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 @Solomon Grundy. @IronMaidenBills thoughts? He’s a potential home run hitter. Not the 3rd superstar you were hoping for, but a nice weapon that has the speed to make defenses pay. Speed….. happy? 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I took a look at the standings last night and thought.........Nyheim Hines should be a cheap target. Always liked his explosiveness. Had a big game against the Bills in the 2020 playoffs. That was the game against Buffalo I was looking for and couldn't find. It was the playoffs. Thank you. It was driving me a little crazy. Quote
LeGOATski Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: This is the perfect offense for Hines and Cook. Buffalo isnt going to hand the ball off 30 plus times. 20 or so carries plus 4 to 6 catches. The 3 to 4 yards can become 15 to 20. Create some lanes in the run game and they can get down field in a hurry. More speed more versatility. Yeah, their skill set is more in line with what Dorsey wants to do. The Bills need to be able to spread the field horizontally considering how teams want to defend them. He's good enough between the tackles too. Will be interesting to see what the RB snap counts turn into. 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Yet is tied for 2nd on the team in tds. I get he does have some lapses, but there's more positive than negative. If it were hockey he'd be a high event player. Whether he's an offensive high event player whose scoring offsets his liabilities or a high event defensive liability whose mistakes outweigh his offensive contribution is up for some debate. Quote
TPS Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Here's the Colts forum thread on the trade: https://forums.colts.com/topic/74316-hines-traded-to-the-bills/ They universally hate the trade and think Hines will be a great player for us. Did you send them a sample of some of the negativity here? 😎 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Beck Water said: LOL picking a number where that's true - #6 back by attempts Dameon Pierce 4th round The top backs in the league are so because they play on run-first teams where they get 20-23 carries per game vs. the 10 or 12 Singletary gets. wow! you found one. Good job. In the top 15 backs there are only 3 drafted after the 2nd round and none after the 4th. Good players get drafted high for the most part. Tune in for more breaking news at 11. Quote
TPS Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Their QB was 4th in yards when benched and is still 6th in the league. The team is 9th in passing yards per game. Something don't smell right!! Hmm. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/offense/stat/passing/table/passing/sort/netPassingYardsPerGame/dir/desc Maybe that's why they fired the OC too... Quote
Nitro Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 Hines is no running threat. Pass catcher out of the back field. Colts fans liked him. Moss fits their scheme. 1 Quote
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 Hines is a versatile player. A very good receiver and runner. He has excellent speed. He can return punts and kicks. He is an experienced version of James Cooks and can do many of the things that McKenzie does. This is a depth move. Hines is also a great character/team guy. He will fit the culture very well. He should be really excited to go from a losing team to a Super Bowl favorite. The best part is the reasonable price that Beane paid. 2 1 Quote
Protocal69 Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Not sure if this has been posted here. I always like to see how the other team feels about the trade. Colts fans seem pissed which is good https://forums.colts.com/topic/74316-hines-traded-to-the-bills/ I agree I do the same. In comparison look at how most Broncos feel about losing Chubb lol.. https://forums.denverbroncos.com/forum/broncos-football/broncos-football-aa/8436308-chubb-traded-to-miami Edited November 1, 2022 by Protocal69 Quote
Billz4ever Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, TPS said: Did you send them a sample of some of the negativity here? 😎 LMAO Quote
Scott7975 Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 I cant wait until next Bills GDT where people freak out about his lack of use or a mistake 5 days after being traded. 2 Quote
bmur66 Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 I guess they would rather have Hines warming the bench more than Moss. I don’t think this trade moves the needle much. 1 1 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, TPS said: Maybe that's why they fired the OC too... All I know is they could move the ball passing, Ryan averaged 286 yards per game. Just threw a lot of picks and took a bunch of sacks. Quote
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