No!!! Bradley Chubb to the Dolphins!

[Bangarang]

Dolphins are paying a lot of money to a lot of players who do not play QB. 

[Rc2catch]

Wowsers… That’s a lot of bread for a lot of question marks. It was a great trade for their playoff push this year but that’s a big jump to pay him already. 

Rousseau is gonna get 100 million guaranteed if he continues his growth to elite status. 

[Mango]

52 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

24M a year for a guy that hws had double digit sacks once and only 1 healthy season.  Wow.  I'm actually happy they did this. 

I thought he was getting Bud Depree money. $16-18M per year. And I thought that was way too high. 

They’re not just giving elite money to non-QB’s. They’re giving elite money to non-elite players. I can’t wait until they give Tua too much money. 

 

 

[BananaB]

2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Wowsers… That’s a lot of bread for a lot of question marks. It was a great trade for their playoff push this year but that’s a big jump to pay him already. 

Rousseau is gonna get 100 million guaranteed if he continues his growth to elite status. 

That’s a ways away

[GunnerBill]

It is a gamble based on his injury history, but if he can stay healthy he is a more talented player than Maxx Crosby who got $23.5m. He is not an elite edge rusher in the Bosas, Garrett, Von Miller and Watt class but he is in that next tier down. So risky, sure. But if it pays off he is a stud.

 

The mistake they made was paying Emmanuel Ogbah way too much for what he is. His sack numbers the last two years were nice... but most of them come in blitz packages or as coverage sacks. He isn't a $16.5m a year rusher. Don't know how easy that deal is to get out of either. 

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, BananaB said:

That’s a ways away

Yes it is, and the market is ever increasing and his value is skyrocketing. He’s one of my favorite players to watch. 

[CountDorkula]

Chubb is a good player and a guy the Bills will have to plan for. 
 

hes not top 5 money good. 

[BananaB]

9 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Yes it is, and the market is ever increasing and his value is skyrocketing. He’s one of my favorite players to watch. 

Hopefully Jordan and Shaq tell him the grass ain’t always greener chasing money. 

[Rc2catch]

Just now, BananaB said:

Hopefully Jordan and Shaq tell him the grass ain’t always greener chasing money. 

If he continues growing at the pace he’s on, they’ll pay him before he ever sniffs free agency. Like you said he’s still a ways away and it’ll be about the same time Von hangs em up or moves on. It’s not a big deal I was just saying if Chubb is getting 60+ guaranteed now groot could be in the 100 million guaranteed when his time comes. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Chubb is a good player and a guy the Bills will have to plan for. 
 

hes not top 5 money good. 

 

I hope they pay him as one.  

[C.Biscuit97]

7 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Hopefully Jordan and Shaq tell him the grass ain’t always greener chasing money. 

Why won’t nfl players chase the money? Does any fan care if they blow out their knee and never get another payday again? Being blindly loyal in the nfl is idiotic. These teams will cut you in a second. 

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I hope they pay him as one.  

Oh, they did. 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34938123/sources-dolphins-lb-bradley-chubb-agree-119m-extension

 

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The Miami Dolphins and newly acquired outside linebacker Bradley Chubb have reached an agreement on a five-year, $110 million extension, and incentives can boost it to $111.25 million, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

 

[C.Biscuit97]

11 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Chubb is a good player and a guy the Bills will have to plan for. 
 

hes not top 5 money good. 

It won’t be top 5 in 2 years. It happens with every contract. 

1 minute ago, H2o said:

Oh, they did. 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34938123/sources-dolphins-lb-bradley-chubb-agree-119m-extension

 

 

So if Rosseau has similar production, you won’t pay him?

Edited November 3, 2022 by C.Biscuit97

[NewEra]

27 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Dolphins are paying a lot of money to a lot of players who do not play QB. 

I think that’s the point of it. They realize the best time to strike is when you have a Qb on his rookie deal.  Pay everyone around him and you have a contender if the QB is good enough to win games.  Tua looks to be good enough to win games.  Just dunno about the SB.  

[nucci]

21 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Yes it is, and the market is ever increasing and his value is skyrocketing. He’s one of my favorite players to watch. 

and so will the cap

[CountDorkula]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It won’t be top 5 in 2 years. It happens with every contract. 

So if Rosseau has similar production, you won’t pay him?

Oh absolutely, like I said Chubb is very good. Anyone thinking this won’t help the Dolphins is either in denial or being naive. 
 

that said I still wouldn’t have paid him close to 25 a year. 
 

16-18 a year would have been fair. IMO

 

miami is quietly putting together a decent roster. Let’s see if Tua can keep it together. 

[C.Biscuit97]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think that’s the point of it. They realize the best time to strike is when you have a Qb on his rookie deal.  Pay everyone around him and you have a contender if the QB is good enough to win games.  Tua looks to be good enough to win games.  Just dunno about the SB.  

Exactly. Like the bills before Allen got his money would have locked up Poyer and Edmunds last year. Now, it’s a much tougher discussion.

 

personally, I think qb Shouldn’t count against your cap. But they should be guaranteed contracts that hurt you if you make a bad investment.

2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Oh absolutely, like I said Chubb is very good. Anyone thinking this won’t help the Dolphins is either in denial or being naive. 
 

that said I still wouldn’t have paid him close to 25 a year. 
 

16-18 a year would have been fair. IMO

 

miami is quietly putting together a decent roster. Let’s see if Tua can keep it together. 

Fair. Nfl reported contracts are very misleading though. There’s a ton of language in there where he is not probably going to get all that money and it will be restructured one day.

[H2o]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

So if Rosseau production, you won’t pay him?

 

Rousseau is in the 2nd year of his rookie deal. We don't have to worry about him for another 3 seasons. That's a stretch of a hypothetical at the moment. Also, Von will more than likely be gone by then, the market will be completely different, and so will the salary cap. We have a lot of people coming up on contracts before Groot. But if his play warrants it, and we want to keep him, you pay the man. 

 

These are Chubb's career stats. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ChubBr00.htm

 

His best year was his rookie season, he has missed a lot of time due to injury early in his career, and it doesn't really seem like the $$$ matches the production. Glad the Dolphins made that move and hitched their wagons to him though. Time will tell how it plays out, but this move doesn't make me nervous in the slightest. 

 

[Bangarang]

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think that’s the point of it. They realize the best time to strike is when you have a Qb on his rookie deal.  Pay everyone around him and you have a contender if the QB is good enough to win games.  Tua looks to be good enough to win games.  Just dunno about the SB.  

Point being, they are likely going to pay Tua and there won’t be much flexibility for them afterwards once they do.

 

Lots of dead money hits are attached to these big contracts. 

[GunnerBill]

17 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

Oh absolutely, like I said Chubb is very good. Anyone thinking this won’t help the Dolphins is either in denial or being naive. 
 

that said I still wouldn’t have paid him close to 25 a year. 
 

16-18 a year would have been fair. IMO

 

miami is quietly putting together a decent roster. Let’s see if Tua can keep it together. 

 

But that's the market. Like I said, he is better when healthy than Maxx Crosby and he got $23.5m. Edge rushers are this year's wide receivers. You are finally seeing front offices as they have transitioned to a younger cadre of GMs realise you have to pay stars at the premium spots. And if at edge rusher you end up paying a very good player elite money but you still get very good production, who cares? What you can't do is pay the role players like Emmanuel Ogbah like they are very good players or overpay non-elite players at the non-premium positions like off the ball linebacker, running back, tight end, guard and safety.