Chase Claypool to the Bears

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Trying to get Justin Fields help. 

 

They've gone run-heavy with Fields in recent weeks, and maybe they're wondering how long he can keep that up. 

[JDubya76]

Yay we get to play claypool twice this season

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

If the Bears didn’t have the worst ownership in all sports since the inception of the word sports I might have some confidence in this trade. 

[DCOrange]

I liked the other two trades Chicago made but this is a hilarious overpay to pray Claypool learns how big of a human he is.

[TheBrownBear]

Why do people view Claypool as a bust?  He's done fine for a second round receiver and he's still young with plenty of time and room to improve.  He hasn't benefitted from very good QB play either.

[chongli]

For once, the AFC just got weaker.

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:

Why do people view Claypool as a bust?  He's done fine for a second round receiver and he's still young with plenty of time and room to improve.  He hasn't benefitted from very good QB play either.

Agree, he had a very good rookie season.  2nd year production was solid too, but he's not the leader/character concerns...might be addition by subtraction, for Steelers.  More targets for Pickens/Diontae.

 

Got solid value, and their issue has been oline and playcalling. 

[DCOrange]

7 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Why do people view Claypool as a bust?  He's done fine for a second round receiver and he's still young with plenty of time and room to improve.  He hasn't benefitted from very good QB play either.

He had good stats the one year but it was mostly manufactured stuff that any WR could do with an occasional highlight play mixed in. If you've watched his film, he's a huge WR that plays like he's 5'8" and just doesn't really know how to do the things that make WRs successful. He routinely turns what should be 80/20 balls into 50/50 or worse.

 

With his tools and unrefined play, he's the type that teams should be surrendering a Day 3 pick for to take a flier and see if they can teach him. Instead, Chicago is giving up a likely top 40 pick to take him off the hands of an organization that's routinely considered the best in the league at developing WRs (and they couldn't develop him themselves).

 

Maturity issues on top of the on-field issues too. It's not that he's a bust; he just hasn't played up to the level that teams should be surrendering valuable picks for him.

Edited November 1, 2022 by DCOrange

[GunnerBill]

21 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I liked the other two trades Chicago made but this is a hilarious overpay to pray Claypool learns how big of a human he is.

 

Agree. It is kind of now or never for him. He is still all potential and project but he is not a rookie now. It is year 3. Time to produce. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Lol wut? Bears should probably get a QB who can throw the ball first. 

Fields is getting better. This season he has had 2-3 really bad games and 2-3 solid games.  

His second year completion percentage is the same that Allen had.  His rookie QB rating was far better than Allen's.  

I had him as the best prospect in that class even over Lawrence. Fields is playing with no supporting cast. Claypool will help.  Only time will tell if he can make the leap that Allen did his third year.

 

[C.Biscuit97]

23 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Agree, he had a very good rookie season.  2nd year production was solid too, but he's not the leader/character concerns...might be addition by subtraction, for Steelers.  More targets for Pickens/Diontae.

 

Got solid value, and their issue has been oline and playcalling. 

He’s 24. I see character concerns but is it because he celebrates and does tik tok? Did he do anything worse than what Diggs did in Minnesota? 
 

I was a huge Claypool guy in the draft. He had an awful tragedy happen. And while he has had little maturity things, some of you are completely overrating how bad they and how much of a “bust” he has been. 
 

He has number 1 ability or worst case scenario, he is a solid 2. And most importantly, they helped out their qb who has the worst receivers in the nfl.

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. It is kind of now or never for him. He is still all potential and project but he is not a rookie now. It is year 3. Time to produce. 

I hate this way of looking at receivers. Most dependent position in football.  It’s wrong to look at receiver potential in a vacuum.

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

I hate this way of looking at receivers. Most dependent position in football.  It’s wrong to look at receiver potential in a vacuum.

 

You don't need a Quarterback to be able to run routes. To learn to use leverage. To improve your get off. He is still the same raw route runner he was coming out. Physical potential. Little sign of developed skillset.

[C.Biscuit97]

16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

You don't need a Quarterback to be able to run routes. To learn to use leverage. To improve your get off. He is still the same raw route runner he was coming out. Physical potential. Little sign of developed skillset.

Do you have a breakdown of his routes? Genuinely would like to see it. 

[MasterStrategist]

50 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He’s 24. I see character concerns but is it because he celebrates and does tik tok? Did he do anything worse than what Diggs did in Minnesota? 
 

I was a huge Claypool guy in the draft. He had an awful tragedy happen. And while he has had little maturity things, some of you are completely overrating how bad they and how much of a “bust” he has been. 
 

He has number 1 ability or worst case scenario, he is a solid 2. And most importantly, they helped out their qb who has the worst receivers in the nfl.

I hate this way of looking at receivers. Most dependent position in football.  It’s wrong to look at receiver potential in a vacuum.

There have been numerous reports of his immaturity, not just being young/tik tok. Coming from former players and media connected to the team.

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/12/ryan-clark-blasts-chase-claypool-most-immature-football-player-ive-ever-seen/

 

That's just 1 article, go search for others if you'd like.  Josina Anderson also posted an article today, that Claypool had been on thr market for weeks (seen as a locker room concern from inside steeler building).

[SirAndrew]

I keep hearing how the Bears GM is an up and coming genius, this makes it hard to believe. 

[Locomark]

Claypool is bad and the Steelers fans complain his lack of ability to us his size to fight for balls. Fields is ugh… The Bears are just an org that the good players want to leave and they need about 3 years of big drafts to be relevant again. I know, I live in Chicago and they are awful. Fields isn’t even that great of an overall athlete or they would be using him as a mini Lamar. His passing is poor and they can’t trust him to even run an option on a team that runs constantly. He is not a future QB. His ceiling is a quicker Brissett. This Claypool move won’t solve anything. They had to trade Roquan because there was no way he would ever sign there next year. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

 

 Came into the league like a ball of fire, but has coasted, maybe even regressed since. An example,he has 12 tds in 2.5 seasons, not too bad. But he had 8 tds in his first 65 targets, only 4 in his last 199. 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS

[BuffaloBills1998]

Claypool must be thrilled 🤣

[John from Riverside]

12 hours ago, Airseven said:

Bears lining up pieces for next season. They had a ton of picks and cap space. Solid move to pair with Mooney.

He literally has not played well enough to justify that pick

[Big Turk]

Looks like they also stole him from the Packers: