If Beane doesn't do anything before the trade deadline it's an epic fail

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:05 PM, WideNine said:

That time of year again.

 

Trade deadline threads are pretty normal around here as well as the sky is falling if we don't get player X.

 

Beane has done a great job finding quality starters and depth players, hard to predict the injury bug when drawing up rosters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes, but the problem with the injury bug is it’s not a real thing.

 

In reality if you have one starting safety out for the year and the other dealing with multiple injuries, then your backup safeties are at increased risk to be injured due to increased playing time.
 

They’re just as likely to get injured as the first two safeties contrary to what many fans around here seem to believe. If that happens you’re stuck with practice squad-level players on the back end in the playoffs. 

 

If you had the knowledge of the starters’ injuries before the deadline and did nothing to bolster depth then it is by definition an epic fail 

[Niagara Dude]

  On 10/31/2022 at 7:41 PM, Adamb412 said:

With KC and Baltimore making moves, Beane needs to do something. There's glaring holes at safety depth and OL depth and even WR in some respect. I'm not hard up on RB like the media is, but if he doesn't at least get a safety with poyer being held together by Elmer's glue and gum and I love him but the dude getting hurt every week

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Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

[Pete]

I would bet my left nut that Beane has been inquiring about many players.  I would be shocked if we didn't make a move by 4:00 tomorrow

[NoSaint]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:27 PM, Niagara Dude said:

Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

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I’d be totally fine with hunt - especially liking that he gets to ease into the rotation. Good out of the shotgun, and good in the passing game. Can be 3rd on the depth chart for a couple weeks and see where it takes us long term. Singletary rolls an ankle in a month and we aren’t debating moss vs rushing him back at 75%.

 

even as a 3 month rental- if we let him walk we get a comp pick a year later. Literally worst case is he’s underutilized and costs us trading a 2023 4th for a 2024 4th to have the insurance. 

Edited October 31, 2022 by NoSaint

[Pete]

RB IMO is one Beane's trade targets.  At the very least, we could use a short yardage back.

 

As much as many discount RBs,  Look what Saquan does for the GMen.  The Jets whole offense was Bryce.  San Fran is instant NFC contender with Christian.  Tennessee goes as DHenry goes

 

I love Motor, and I think Cook will be a great player for us.  But last night our running game was great, until we needed to be able to run.

 

A RB won't cost a 1st most likely.  Teams at this point of season know whether to sell now, and build for next year- or make a playoff run.  IMO many teams are sellers.

Now is the time to fine tune our roster for our Super Bowl quest

RB, S, OL - 3 positions Beane is considering adding IMO

[WideNine]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:18 PM, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Yes, but the problem with the injury bug is it’s not a real thing.

 

In reality if you have one starting safety out for the year and the other dealing with multiple injuries, then your backup safeties are at increased risk to be injured due to increased playing time.
 

They’re just as likely to get injured as the first two safeties contrary to what many fans around here seem to believe. If that happens you’re stuck with practice squad-level players on the back end in the playoffs. 

 

If you had the knowledge of the starters’ injuries before the deadline and did nothing to bolster depth then it is by definition an epic fail 

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Assuming there are replacements out there that are better than those you have in house, AND that they are worth the asking price.

 

Beane has built a pretty decent team, knee-jerk reactions are not part of that equation.

 

I can't associate the job he has done building this roster and this organization that franchises across the NFL now hold up as the gold standard, with the words "epic fail" because why?

 

Because he does not pull the trigger on a trade he does not like?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[4merper4mer]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:44 PM, Pete said:

RB IMO is one Beane's trade targets.  At the very least, we could use a short yardage back.

 

As much as many discount RBs,  Look what Saquan does for the GMen.  The Jets whole offense was Bryce.  San Fran is instant NFC contender with Christian.  Tennessee goes as DHenry goes

 

I love Motor, and I think Cook will be a great player for us.  But last night our running game was great, until we needed to be able to run.

 

A RB won't cost a 1st most likely.  Teams at this point of season know whether to sell now, and build for next year- or make a playoff run.  IMO many teams are sellers.

Now is the time to fine tune our roster for our Super Bowl quest

RB, S, OL - 3 positions Beane is considering adding IMO

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When exactly did we need to be able to run last night?

[SoTier]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:27 PM, Niagara Dude said:

Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

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You're assuming that a RB and/or safety better than we currently have are available at a reasonable price.   There may not be. 

[Pete]

A very good RB for Moss and draft pick(either round 3, 4, or 5- depending on whom)

That clears a roster spot for us, and fills trade partners backfield

No brainer to me to make that deal

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:49 PM, 4merper4mer said:

When exactly did we need to be able to run last night?

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we had 3 points in the second half.  Josh was very off in second half, and we let Green Bay back in the game.  Green Bay dominated time of possession.

A good running game would of iced the game for us in the third quarter

[Pete]

A good running game, Josh does not need to be Superman every game.  Not to mention, a good running game, makes for a much better passing game. 

[4merper4mer]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:50 PM, Pete said:

A very good RB for Moss and draft pick(either round 3, 4, or 5- depending on whom)

That clears a roster spot for us, and fills trade partners backfield

No brainer to me to make that deal

we had 3 points in the second half.  Josh was very off in second half, and we let Green Bay back in the game.  Green Bay dominated time of possession.

A good running game would of iced the game for us in the third quarter

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Green Bay was back in the game?

[BuffaninSarasota]

Moss and a 7th in 2028 in exchange for  Chubb …. If not, epic fail 

[TBBills Fan]

Moss and a 5th.  LFG beane

[ArtVandalay]

  On 10/31/2022 at 7:41 PM, Adamb412 said:

With KC and Baltimore making moves, Beane needs to do something. There's glaring holes at safety depth and OL depth and even WR in some respect. I'm not hard up on RB like the media is, but if he doesn't at least get a safety with poyer being held together by Elmer's glue and gum and I love him but the dude getting hurt every week

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If they don't win the super bowl it will obviously be something that is discussed. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

  On 10/31/2022 at 10:03 PM, Bills2022 said:

The Bills roster and the #1 seed in the AFC is all they need.  Then we pray McDermott doesn't choke. 

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I honestly believe McDermott is our biggest obstacle to winning it all

[Scott7975]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:27 PM, Niagara Dude said:

Previous two years I did not agree on Beane doing nothing at the deadline and we lost both years to KC.  This season I again plead to either add a speed/power RB or perhaps depth at the safety position.  This is not even about if I like Singletary,  you need quality depth and Moss should not even be on this team. Cook is not ready and needs to get stronger before you can really count on him as a runner between the tackles.  I third or 4th rounder gets it done. Same people saying were fine were saying the same thing two previous years and then cried after losing to KC.  

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Just because the Bills arent using Cook much does not mean he is not ready.  Cook has produced on just about every opportunity he has had outside of the fumble on his first carry.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

  On 11/1/2022 at 12:53 AM, Scott7975 said:

 

Just because the Bills arent using Cook much does not mean he is not ready.  Cook has produced on just about every opportunity he has had outside of the fumble on his first carry.

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I don't know if I'd go that far. He looked slow and unsure early in the season. I agree he could end up still being a bigger contributor this season though.

 

But that's going to be part of Beane and McD's judgement. If from what they've seen, they feel like Cook can become that back we need this season then it's fine if we don't pick one up. If they don't, I do think it's kind of necessary to add someone. Moss is terrible and we haven't really seen Cook be able to run the ball effectively. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

  On 11/1/2022 at 12:51 AM, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

I honestly believe McDermott is our biggest obstacle to winning it all

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yeah, right.

 

Bills HC Sean McDermott becomes franchise’s all-time win-percentage leader

[BillsVet]

  On 10/31/2022 at 11:44 PM, Pete said:

RB IMO is one Beane's trade targets.  At the very least, we could use a short yardage back.

 

As much as many discount RBs,  Look what Saquan does for the GMen.  The Jets whole offense was Bryce.  San Fran is instant NFC contender with Christian.  Tennessee goes as DHenry goes

 

I love Motor, and I think Cook will be a great player for us.  But last night our running game was great, until we needed to be able to run.

 

A RB won't cost a 1st most likely.  Teams at this point of season know whether to sell now, and build for next year- or make a playoff run.  IMO many teams are sellers.

Now is the time to fine tune our roster for our Super Bowl quest

RB, S, OL - 3 positions Beane is considering adding IMO

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Short yardage back?  What is this 1987?  Oh, it is?  Then let me know when we get Cornelius Bennett. 35 years ago today. 

 

Running backs at the trade deadline are almost like talking about Fred Flinstone's work brontosaurus.   

[aceman_16]

Sigh....this thread is an epic fail.