Allen’s QBR last night was 83.6

[Dr. K]

55 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

Going back to last year he’s had some bad games at home against lesser opponents.  Falcons last year 3 picks, took him out of the MVP race and even the pro bowl.  Good news he usually plays better when it matters the most. 1000 yards 10-0 TD ratio, 125+ rating last 3 games at KC.  He’s the anti-Kirk cousins. 

I remember that Falcons game, and yes, he looked really bad, inexplicably, in that game. Especially since it came late in the season right after they had beaten the Pats in New England and he was playing his best ball.  

 

I think even a freak like Allen will have those bad stretches. I expect he will get it out of his system against the Jets. 

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I don't know why it is being spoken about so much at all. It is not as if they happened with the game on the line, or at some critical point in the game, or if it was some kind of pattern with Allen. They literally happened with the team up by 17 points and on the opponent's side of the field. They didn't lead to scores by GB or a loss.

 

He is having an MVP year. In the midst of all the MVP caliber plays he has displayed this year are probably 10-15 bad plays. It happens. You can find the same with Mahomes. Do you think Allen isn't aware of those bad plays?

 

Why are you not talking about the beautifully thrown passes, escape from would be sacks, and great plays with his legs that led to a 27 -10 lead midway through the 3rd quarter that made those 3-4 bad plays in the 4th inconsquential?

 

But that's what I'm trying to explain. I think it's the immediacy which is why it's being focused on. Switch the first and fourth quarters and I don't think people would be talking about it (I'm not the only one), or just saying in passing "He had a shaky start but..."

4 minutes ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

People shouldn't defend 13/25 with 2 TD/2 INT as a good game. He had a very good first half, an iffy 3rd quarter and a bad 4th quarter. 

 

If his stat line ended up at 15/25 with 2 TD and 1 INT, it probably would qualify as a good game. But the overthrows in Q4 plus the 2 INTs say: stinker. So he needs to learn from it and move forward. As long as he is not injured, we'll do fine. 

 

As I recall Aaron Rogers had a horrific game in Buffalo a few years back. Since then he won the MVP twice. It can happen to anyone. Sometimes Brady threw multiple picks too. It's why they play. Let's hope he gets it out of his system.

 

I wouldn't say he had an iffy third quarter; thought he was decent. Maybe a slight downstep from the first half but I wouldn't say he was iffy.

[RunTheBall]

Holy crap nothing like TBD to over dissect a 10 point win to death.

 

The expectations being placed on Josh are unrealistic. No QB plays perfect every down of every game. Some of you need to be on anti-anxiety meds. Yeah he didn’t have a good second half. So what. It happens to every single QB. Stop blowing it out of proportion and making it something its not.

 

I don’t care about the stats, I don’t care about the MVP talk, I care about W’s. We won. Every game isn’t going to be a 40 point beat down.

 

You can’t extrapolate what happened in this game to what might happen against any other team. We weren’t playing the Chiefs. We weren’t playing the Eagles. We were playing a clearly inferior opponent and the game was never in doubt after the 2 score lead. What if’s don’t matter.

 

Enjoy the W. We are on to Cincinnati (Jets)

[BRH]

All I know is this just means a whole lot of bad news for the Jets next week.

[hemma]

Based off some of prior performances/scores, I think he had a different person grading him last night.

[Scott7975]

[billsfan1959]

9 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

But that's what I'm trying to explain. I think it's the immediacy which is why it's being focused on. Switch the first and fourth quarters and I don't think people would be talking about it (I'm not the only one), or just saying in passing "He had a shaky start but..."

 

I understand the bad throws happened in the 4th quarter; however, they literally did nothing other than preventing the team from winning by 20 points instead of 10 points. They had much less of an impact on the outcome of the game than all the good plays he had last night.

 

But, if that is what some people want to focus on, then so be it.

[Saxum]

49 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

I never have an off day, ever. No matter what my wife or boss says (can't believe a word they say). My QBR is always 100. 

 

Equal to your IQ?  QBR of 100 is maybe a B-?

Easy to get against poor competition and no silly chances.

4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

It was more than one bad drive…. Either way I’m not worried one iota about Josh…. It was just one bad half of football. 

 

So you are saying Josh had a good game since you are usually worried entire game.

[UKBillFan]

6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I understand the bad throws happened in the 4th quarter; however, they literally did nothing other than preventing the team from winning by 20 points instead of 10 points. They had much less of an impact on the outcome of the game than all the good plays he had last night.

 

But, if that is what some people want to focus on, then so be it.

 

Yes, though if Crosby had converted the late FG attempt and they had then won the subsequent onside kick, or if we hadn't tipped Rodgers' pass straight after the first interception, then suddenly the gap closes or we may lose. Looking back, the bad plays didn't really matter. At the time they could have done, we could be sitting here discussing a narrow loss because of the turnovers. If he then makes those passes aagainst a team with a competent offense we could be in trouble too.

 

Ifs, buts and maybes, I appreciate that and none of it came to pass. I think that's why it's being focused on though. I doubt we're hardly the fanbase to debate this though; can imagine how the Chiefs fans reacted after their loss to us and the Colts, where Mahomes didn't have the best of games.

[Saxum]

20 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

 

I don’t care about the stats, I don’t care about the MVP talk, I care about W’s. We won. Every game isn’t going to be a 40 point beat down.

 

 

Points DO matter is ties but I expect Bills will not be in that scenario this season.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 hour ago, Charles Romes said:

Going back to last year he’s had some bad games at home against lesser opponents.  Falcons last year 3 picks, took him out of the MVP race and even the pro bowl.  Good news he usually plays better when it matters the most. 1000 yards 10-0 TD ratio, 125+ rating last 3 games at KC.  He’s the anti-Kirk cousins. 

 

I mean... Mac Jones was in the pro bowl so... 

[Gunsgoodtime]

Just cut him already, time to move on. 

[Rich Stadium Original]

I though I saw a stat at the end of the game last night, but haven't seen since that said Allen faced pressures on 43%(?) of dropbacks for this game..the highest of the seaon. My recollection is Allen was rarely throwing from a clean pocket in the 2nd half.

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Which Is actually higher then it was against Miami, Baltimore, and KC. 
 

So even when he’s “off” he’s still an amazing QB. 
 

Id just like the missed throw away in the dirt that got picked by Alexander back last night that even got on himself about. 
 

Onto the Jets 

It was essentially mostly 2 bad series (really only a bad pass at the end of 1 of them) in the 2nd half along with a miss in the last series.

[Fan in Chicago]

I wonder if he was just bored after the first half and made careless mistakes. Of course it's not an excuse but he looked visibly sharper in the first half. 🙃

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

Good 1st half, terrible 2nd half. We won't win if he has a full game like that 2nd half. Luckily we were already up big at that point. Josh is the entire offense. If he has a bad game then we won't win, simple as that. He had a bad 2nd half and we only had 3 points as a team as a result 

It's hilarious that people are giving you a hard time about this, because everything you said is objectively true

[K D]

2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

It's hilarious that people are giving you a hard time about this, because everything you said is objectively true

You can't criticize their lord and savior Josh Allen. He's of course infallible. He walks on water and his tears cure diseases. I often find myself taking the unpopular position but someone has to bring some common sense and balance to this forum 🫡

[FilthyBeast]

One bad half out of the bye week against a desperate team isn't time to raise the alarm  bells yet.

 

Now if Allen comes out next week and plays like complete trash against a decent Jets defense (and this team loses) then we have a real problem.

[nedboy7]

There are some deeply negative fans on here.  Completely attached to misery and insulting the team to no end. 

 

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

I said it earlier in the year too, Allen and the offense start playing too loose at times once they realize they are much better than their opponent. The dirt pass that turned into a pick I'll chalk up to a weird fluke, but the one he threw back across his body was just unnecessary at that moment in the game. Allen is the man and he know he's the man but he has to pick his spots. He knows better than that.

 

I also feel like there are some games where you can tell the coaching staff has told him no more running. Did he run the ball once after halftime yesterday? When Allen is neutered like that the offense looks worse. I think if we had been playing the Chiefs he would have just run on that 3rd down where he threw his first interception. They should let him play his game.

 

Completely agree with the first part of your analysis. That is a good observation.  However, I was quite pleased he did not run the ball in the second half.  I did not think the game was in danger at any point.  That is maturation in my mind. 

Edited October 31, 2022 by nedboy7

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

However, I was quite pleased he did not run the ball in the second half.  I did not think the game was in danger at any point.  That is maturation in my mind. 

 

I'm fine with him running as much as he wants to. Now obviously in games like yesterday's I want him to slide and not fight for extra yards. But him running is not inherently dangerous.

 

On the pick I think he genuinely just missed Rasul Douglas sitting in that area. It was a really good and athletic play by him.