NFC better than AFC at the top

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I will continue with your NBA analogy. NBA is all about matchups. 

Eagles have #1 pass defense in yards and #2 by YPA.  Eagles have a QB with super high completion percentage, a big oline, and are decent at running the ball. 

All those factors could be matchup problems for Bills and KC.  

Like the Bills last year, the Eagles have faced some really bad QBs. So is their defensive ranking real or not????

Buffalo and KC still seem like the better team but I would not discount the Eagles so quickly.

I will agree that the Eagles run game scared me before last night, and I feel like the Bills scheme got exposed last night. But, I also don’t think it’s something that can’t be overcome. And I don’t think that Robert Quinn makes them so much better than the Bills O-line and Josh Allen can handle. I really don’t buy into the Eagles at all. But they’re undefeated, and they’re odds on favorite for the NFC. They’re the only thing to talk about in NFC. So this is the team that’s getting better to make a run. But… 

 

I don’t think this trade deadline deal, the move that makes that makes them better than a team with great chemistry and motivated from within. 
 

If the Bills signed Robert Quinn in the off-season, or traded for him then, I’d be over the moon. Just for the record. 

[Max Fischer]

11 hours ago, Max Fischer said:

Current playoff standings:

 

 1. Bills

 2. Titans

 3. Chiefs

 4. Ravens

 

  5. Jets

  6. Dolphins

  7. Chargers

 

  8. Bengals

  9. Patriots

10. Colts

 

IMO, it's a good bet that the Jets will fall and the Bengals will get in. If so, we could have a VERY competitive first round. I think the Chiefs would be the heaviest favorite but it might be less than a touchdown. 

 

 

 

Perhaps the Bengals are not a playoff lock. 

[Billznut]

13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

People are overlooking the Bengals. They lost a head scratcher in the opener to Pittsburgh in overtime (that stuff happens in Week 1) and then to the Cowboys the next week. But after digging themselves into that hole they’ve been on a roll. I’ll be interested to see how they look tonight. 

Well looks like we have the answer about the Bengals. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 hours ago, bills6969 said:

Coming into the season everyone was drooling over how good AFC would be at the top, now, almost at the midway point of season, it appears the NFC is better. Philly, Dallas, San Fran, Minny are super bowl caliber teams,  whereas in AFC, it’s looking like just Buff and KC.

No one in the nfc is nearly as good as the bills or chiefs imo.  Philly is about as good as a relatively healthy baltimore team. Heck if Miami can just somewhat sort their defensive issues out I’d put them above all those nfc teams too.  Miami likely beats Minnesota with tua out there…bridgewater had a rough few weeks 

 

even with bridgewater Miami outgained Minnesota 458-234

Edited November 1, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Bimmer323i]

14 hours ago, bills6969 said:

Coming into the season everyone was drooling over how good AFC would be at the top, now, almost at the midway point of season, it appears the NFC is better. Philly, Dallas, San Fran, Minny are super bowl caliber teams,  whereas in AFC, it’s looking like just Buff and KC.

Philly maybe but Dallas Vikings and 9ers are not super bowl caliber teams

[dakrider]

Really, the AFC is Bills and Chiefs.  NFC is Philly.  Right now these are the only 3 teams that could make the  SB. 
Next best NFC team is Vikings and they would be 4-4 in the AFC North. 
And I certainly don't see the Baltimore, Miami or Tenn. winning 3 playoff games to get to SB.  Buffalo or KC could possibly lose a game to one of these but not both.  
 

 

[Big Blitz]

No.

 

 

Pick one:

 

AFC Ranked:

 

Bills

Chiefs

Dolphins

Ravens 

 

 

NFC Ranked:

 

Eagles

Cowboys

49ers

Vikings 

 

Edited November 1, 2022 by Big Blitz

[SoCal Deek]

10 hours ago, Billznut said:

Well looks like we have the answer about the Bengals. 

Ha! I was just thinking I should go back and find my post on the Bengals and you did it for me. I was out helping the grandkids with trick or treating (night games are on early on the west coast) but I was catching the score on my phone. I have to admit I did NOT see that coming. Go figure. 

[Motor26]

17 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

I will agree that the Eagles run game scared me before last night, and I feel like the Bills scheme got exposed last night. But, I also don’t think it’s something that can’t be overcome. And I don’t think that Robert Quinn makes them so much better than the Bills O-line and Josh Allen can handle. I really don’t buy into the Eagles at all. But they’re undefeated, and they’re odds on favorite for the NFC. They’re the only thing to talk about in NFC. So this is the team that’s getting better to make a run. But… 

 

I don’t think this trade deadline deal, the move that makes that makes them better than a team with great chemistry and motivated from within. 
 

If the Bills signed Robert Quinn in the off-season, or traded for him then, I’d be over the moon. Just for the record. 

 

The scheme to let the team run out the clock while defending against the reigning MVP because he can still make any throw even with terrible receivers? The Bills stayed in Nickel instead of switching to a 4-3 because of the threat of Rodgers and the game was never in doubt. This is the same defense that held Derrick Henry to under 30 yards. 

[DCOrange]

On 10/31/2022 at 8:28 AM, bills6969 said:

Coming into the season everyone was drooling over how good AFC would be at the top, now, almost at the midway point of season, it appears the NFC is better. Philly, Dallas, San Fran, Minny are super bowl caliber teams,  whereas in AFC, it’s looking like just Buff and KC.

I would probably rank the teams something like:

1. Buffalo
2. Kansas City
3. Philly
4. Baltimore
5. Dallas
6. Miami
7. San Fran
8. Minnesota (or maybe still hold out hope for Tampa to figure things out)

AFC remains better at the top IMO but it's certainly not as deep as a lot of people expected it to be (and the NFC is just as weak if not weaker than it was expected to be).

[Boatdrinks]

9 hours ago, dakrider said:

Really, the AFC is Bills and Chiefs.  NFC is Philly.  Right now these are the only 3 teams that could make the  SB. 
Next best NFC team is Vikings and they would be 4-4 in the AFC North. 
And I certainly don't see the Baltimore, Miami or Tenn. winning 3 playoff games to get to SB.  Buffalo or KC could possibly lose a game to one of these but not both.  
 

 

I’d venture right now that a team not among your 3 capable of making the SB will make the SB. 

5 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I would probably rank the teams something like:

1. Buffalo
2. Kansas City
3. Philly
4. Baltimore
5. Dallas
6. Miami
7. San Fran
8. Minnesota (or maybe still hold out hope for Tampa to figure things out)

AFC remains better at the top IMO but it's certainly not as deep as a lot of people expected it to be (and the NFC is just as weak if not weaker than it was expected to be).

True , the AFC is better but not as deep due to much worse than expected QB play.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

On 10/31/2022 at 6:00 AM, Charles Romes said:

Dolphins are like 11-2 last 13 games Tua has started. 

Yep. The dolphins roster when fully healthy and on offense in particular is one of the best rosters in the conference. Quarterback is still a disadvantage with Tua but he is certainly capable of getting the ball to the playmakers most days.

 

There’s no excuse for the Dolphins to not make the playoffs this year. 

[billsfan89]

Philly and Dallas are legit teams and if the 49ers can get their defense healthy they are going to be a factor. The Vikings and Giants are paper tigers, the NFC South is a joke and the rest of the conference is pretty mediocre.

 

Beyond the Bills and Chiefs you have a dam good Ravens team that could easily be 8-0 or at least have 6-7 wins but still sit at 5-3. You have a Titans team that has not lost since week two that is a legit team and you have some other tough teams out there like the Bengals, Browns (who will be getting a upgrade at QB) and Chargers. There is also still the Dolphins who sit at 5-3 and are formidable. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

19 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

I will agree that the Eagles run game scared me before last night, and I feel like the Bills scheme got exposed last night. But, I also don’t think it’s something that can’t be overcome. And I don’t think that Robert Quinn makes them so much better than the Bills O-line and Josh Allen can handle. I really don’t buy into the Eagles at all. But they’re undefeated, and they’re odds on favorite for the NFC. They’re the only thing to talk about in NFC. So this is the team that’s getting better to make a run. But… 

 

I don’t think this trade deadline deal, the move that makes that makes them better than a team with great chemistry and motivated from within. 
 

If the Bills signed Robert Quinn in the off-season, or traded for him then, I’d be over the moon. Just for the record. 

Bills would defend the eagles much differently than the second half of the packers game.  And I think as a fanbase we are really sleeping on how good Aaron jones and aj Dillon are.  There weren’t a whole lot of plays where we weren’t well positioned to make tackles.  Also, I’m sure rodgers was audibling and changing blocking assignments at the line of scrimmage which he is much better than hurts at.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:

Philly and Dallas are legit teams and if the 49ers can get their defense healthy they are going to be a factor. The Vikings and Giants are paper tigers, the NFC South is a joke and the rest of the conference is pretty mediocre.

 

Beyond the Bills and Chiefs you have a dam good Ravens team that could easily be 8-0 or at least have 6-7 wins but still sit at 5-3. You have a Titans team that has not lost since week two that is a legit team and you have some other tough teams out there like the Bengals, Browns (who will be getting a upgrade at QB) and Chargers. There is also still the Dolphins who sit at 5-3 and are formidable. 

Philly is going to get spanked by the cowboys when they don’t have a practice squadder at QB imo…I wouldn’t call them full 2020 Steelers but they are not 7-0 good right now 

[SCBills]

10 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

No.

 

 

Pick one:

 

AFC Ranked:

 

Bills

Chiefs

Dolphins

Ravens 

 

 

NFC Ranked:

 

Eagles

Cowboys

49ers

Vikings 

 

Once Dak gets his sea legs under him and the 49ers get their guys gelling.. the NFC’s top 4 is much better than anyone ever thought entering the season.

 

However, the Bills and Chiefs are so much better than the top NFC team that it swings the balance to the AFC. 
 

Sorry, I do not buy the Eagles. Good team, not great.  Buffalo and Kansas City are great.. and most importantly, have the two best QB’s in the NFL, by a wide margin. 

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

3 hours ago, Motor26 said:

 

The scheme to let the team run out the clock while defending against the reigning MVP because he can still make any throw even with terrible receivers? The Bills stayed in Nickel instead of switching to a 4-3 because of the threat of Rodgers and the game was never in doubt. This is the same defense that held Derrick Henry to under 30 yards. 

Im not sure what you’re trying to say here?
 

The Bills defense got gashed on Sunday night BECAUSE of scheme. The defense bent, but did not break. That’s also part of the scheme. 

[Motor26]

11 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

Im not sure what you’re trying to say here?
 

The Bills defense got gashed on Sunday night BECAUSE of scheme. The defense bent, but did not break. That’s also part of the scheme. 

 

The Bills let Green Bay run because they didn't want to get beat deep by Rodgers, so they stayed in Nickel. 

[BillsFanSD]

On 10/31/2022 at 7:57 AM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Lololol ok sure, let's see the Chiefs and Bills head to head vs the vikes and Eagles and see how that goes

This.

 

The two best teams in the NFL are both in the AFC.  Either of those teams will be favored by about 6 points against the Eagles if they meet in the super bowl.  The spread will be larger if they face off against any team besides Philadelphia.  Nobody seriously thinks that the Vikings are in the same tier as the Bills and Chiefs.  

[appoo]

In general, this is one of the worst seasons in my memory of just having good teams. Feels like everyone is either mediocre or bad except for the Bills, Chiefs, Eagles and Vikings. Like you can make an arguement that the Geno Smith led Hawks are the 3rd best team in the NFC