Are Bills fans expectations too high????

[Nextmanup]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Every talking head this morning is echoing the, likely, correct conclusion that Buffalo just got bored in the second half and lost focus.  

I was thinking about that, sort of, during the game last night.

 

I think there is something to that; it was a weird game where it felt like the big blowout was coming.  Then it didn't really materialize, and then that weird garbage time lasted forever and the game started to change, while in it.

 

Weird game; easier for the players to focus 100% and put the pedal down in a close, hard fought game.

 

It's like being up 2-0 or 3-0 in a hockey game; sometimes that's the worst---for the team in the lead.

 

 

[blacklabel]

It felt like Josh was pressing to make a play a little bit. When they have a sizeable lead I think he tries some stuff he typically wouldn't if the game was close. Having those big leads can allow players to loosen up a tad and take a few more risks. I think that's what happened last night. 

 

What sucks about it is that turnovers and negative plays of their own doing is pretty much the only way to stop this offense. Most games this year they've had a turnover in or near the red zone which leaves points on the table. Probably should've been 41-17 last night. 

 

The good thing is how well they respond to adversity and how committed they are to constantly improving while keeping their emotions and all the mental stuff in check. They'll probably be determined to show out against the Jets. I sure hope they do because I hate those stupid nerds. 

[BillyBilliams]

My expectations are high.  I expect them to dominate every game they play.  I expect them to win the Super Bowl.  People who don't have expectations too high are scared of the pressure and the negative blowback if it doesn't happen.  

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I just said that the second have was a slog.  Can say the same about the first half vs. Baltimore, but then they woke up and while probably closer then it should have been, the better team (Bills) won.  

 

Like above Davis made some mistakes and that was the first game where Josh threw some horrendous passes.  Maybe just complacency, but that by far was just a terrible half both sides of the ball.

 

So, what is this thread and your point all about?  Seriously.  The players and coaches have already said there was a lot of errors made and

that they need to tighten things up.

 

If you had the chance to talk directly to the players and coaches, what would you tell them?

Would you chastise Josh Allen for his poor performance in the 2nd half?

Would you inform them that YOUR expectations are higher and thus they MUST raise their play to meet them.

 

I just don't understand these threads at all.  They are men with human traits.  Would I personally "wish" that they scored on 80% of their

drives and held the opposition to scoring on only 20%.  Yes, I would.  But after this week no one will remember all this post game talk.

 

A question for ALL fans of all types.  What were your expectations of the Buffalo Bills record after the first 7 games of the season? 

My answer is at 6-1 the team (so far) has exceeded my hopes from the start of the season.

Go Bills.

[US Egg]

You can never be too high.

[ColoradoBills]

13 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

My expectations are high.  I expect them to dominate every game they play.  I expect them to win the Super Bowl.  People who don't have expectations too high are scared of the pressure and the negative blowback if it doesn't happen.  

 

Then you will need to prepare yourself for the reality that what you expect will not happen.

[Nephilim17]

My expectation is that the players play a smart and focused game with full effort and intelligence. If they do that and still lose, I'll be sad but I'm ok with that. I don't think the team met that expectation, especially the offense and Josh, the second half.

 

But it won't keep me up at night. We got the win. My expectation is that the coaching staff and players, especially Josh, learn from the mistakes and I believe they will.

[BillyBilliams]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Then you will need to prepare yourself for the reality that what you expect will not happen.

 

I know that won't happen, but you can still expect them to.  You can't realistically believe they're going to play perfect and fire on all cylinders for 20 games.  However, we all know their capabilities and we can expect them to win every game they play, and rather convincingly.  Expectations is different than reality

[Big Turk]

Let's put this in perspective for a second:

 

 

 

I think they are doing just fine...

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

I know that won't happen, but you can still expect them to.  You can't realistically believe they're going to play perfect and fire on all cylinders for 20 games.  However, we all know their capabilities and we can expect them to win every game they play, and rather convincingly.  Expectations is different than reality

 

I guess I see your point, but I personally wouldn't use the word, expect.

Like I said up thread, I know it would be foolish for me to stand in front of the team and say I "expect you guys to perform at 100% always".

I can only hope they can achieve that as much as humanly possible.

[TPS]

5 hours ago, HOUSE said:

WHAT EXPECTATIONS?

 

I turn on the TV and whatever happens,  happens..

Wow!  How many times have you been lucky enough it was on the game's channel when you turned it on?

[TheFunPolice]

Some fans seem to expect everything to go perfectly all the time. The minute a guy misses a tackle or drops a ball or fumbles he is a bum who need to be cut. 

 

It's an imperfect game, and quite frankly, we're spoiled watching this team because so often it does seem so easy. but it's not

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Some fans seem to expect everything to go perfectly all the time. The minute a guy misses a tackle or drops a ball or fumbles he is a bum who need to be cut. 

 

It's an imperfect game, and quite frankly, we're spoiled watching this team because so often it does seem so easy. but it's not

 

 

 

Well said.  I for one do not want to get spoiled.  I want to savor every moment and be amazed at how well they can play.

I'm old enough to know that you make hay when the sun shines and I also know that "all glory is fleeting".

[Big Turk]

 

[Billsfan1972]

I love the apologists.  Not a single person disagrees.  I started a thread to express my opinion (not seeing anything similar).  The Bills have had bad stretches this year, but yesterday imo was different and they flat out looked bad the second half.  

 

No I did not listen to McD or others, nor have turned on the radio, and won't.  Maybe I'm too tired as that second half (at least the 4th quarter) went on forever.  

 

I expect (and have said so) all to be corrected, just did not like what I saw.

 

Yes my focus is on Allen and he threw his worst passes of the year yesterday.  Overthrew receivers and seemed out of sorts.

 

Just stating an opinion. 

[pocoboy]

6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yes it is a Super Bowl Victory or bust year, but coming out of yesterday's game (particularly the second half) and you wonder whether we as fans have set the bar too high.

 

 

 

This is a team likely to be in Year 3 of "Capable of making Deep Playoff Run."

 

If you aren't hitting the Super Bowl by then, you are failing expectations. Especially when you have one of the Top 3 QB's in the league.

 

If you've watched the NFL for more than a year, you should realize that the term "Any Given Sunday" isn't bandied about for kicks. Heck all you'd really have to do is go back a few weeks and look at KC playing Indy.

 

Let me give you a little hint: this team may still have a Jacksonville game in their future this season, where their effort is poor coupled with an inspired defense & officiating crew nickel and diming them to death. It should NOT change the expectations. At this point, being happy with a home playoff game is a Maf move, happy for another week to demolish tables and drink themselves into oblivion.

Edited October 31, 2022 by pocoboy

[Big Turk]

Couple of interesting notes:

 

Bills lead the NFL in net TDs with 13, 3 more over Cincy and Philly.  

 

Bills have the 3rd highest Strength of Victory in the NFL at .511.  Only TB at .542 and Cincy at .531 are higher. Those teams have 3 and 4 wins respectively.  If Cincy beats Cleveland we may vault into 2nd place because Cleveland sucks.

 

Bills have a conference point differential of +74.  The 40 point gap between them and 2nd place Jacksonville??? is higher than the net points for Jacksonville who is at 34.  KC Point Differential?  -3.

 

Basically, we are really f***ing good.

 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Big Turk

[BillyBilliams]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

I was thinking about that, sort of, during the game last night.

 

I think there is something to that; it was a weird game where it felt like the big blowout was coming.  Then it didn't really materialize, and then that weird garbage time lasted forever and the game started to change, while in it.

 

Weird game; easier for the players to focus 100% and put the pedal down in a close, hard fought game.

 

It's like being up 2-0 or 3-0 in a hockey game; sometimes that's the worst---for the team in the lead.

 

 

 

I can understand them being bored.  I was too.  I found myself playing phone games in the second half when I seen Green Bay were just gonna kill the clock.  

[teef]

14 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I love the apologists.  Not a single person disagrees.  I started a thread to express my opinion (not seeing anything similar).  The Bills have had bad stretches this year, but yesterday imo was different and they flat out looked bad the second half.  

 

No I did not listen to McD or others, nor have turned on the radio, and won't.  Maybe I'm too tired as that second half (at least the 4th quarter) went on forever.  

 

I expect (and have said so) all to be corrected, just did not like what I saw.

 

Yes my focus is on Allen and he threw his worst passes of the year yesterday.  Overthrew receivers and seemed out of sorts.

 

Just stating an opinion. 

you just love to get bent out of shape.  you're right...no one disagrees.  most just don't just to such a wild conclusion that expectations are too high due to a blah half of football. most are reasonable enough to enjoy the win, discuss what went wrong, and move on.  as of now it's not a big deal at all. i think you just want these threads to be confrontation because you need that for some reason.

[Dan]

I haven’t read this thread and have little real football knowledge, but I’m completely confident in saying... NO.  Our expectations are not too high.  
 

This is the worst 6-1, conference leading team we’ve seen this year.   There’s literally zero chance we could beat the Chiefs!  And with out run defense, good luck if we have to play the Ravens or Titans.  Henry would put up the first 400 yard rushing game.   And now if Poyer is put on IR and never plays again our pass defense is shot.   Time to look at the draft prospects.  There is only one expectation left... pain. 
 

oh yeah and Edmonds still sucks and cant even spell LB let alone play it. Dude never makes a tackle.  
 

I’m done with this team until later tonight after work!!