Alphadawg7 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Yay, another extreme hot take. You people realize Davis missed time and also played hurt right? Commenting on his total catch numbers is unreasonable. Another extreme hot take over one game...really over one half...of a game we won by double digits and against one of the best pass defenses and secondary's in the league. You people realize there is talent on the other teams we play too right? You realize they get paid to make plays too right? Not every player is going to dominate every second of every game. Is it Sunday yet cuz I don't how much more of these extreme hot takes I can take? Edited October 31, 2022 by Alphadawg7 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, ScottLaw said: How you think he played last night? One night does not make a season or a career. I like the bigger view, though. Quote
Augie Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Never said it did…. But we’ve seen this before with Davis. Even Josh didn’t have his best game. It happens. I’m not overreacting, I’m taking the long view. I like what I see. It will never be perfect, but I like it a lot. Quote
Buffalo Ballin Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Gabe Davis is a great number 2 WR. He's gonna get a big extension with us. He has great hands. Those deep passes are difficult to catch. You try to do what he does. We don't need another WR, dude. Hell, we might even get OBJ on the cheap. "We need another WR bad" is not an issue. The issue to monitor is really boosting our defense with injuries to Poyer and Milano. Quote
SCBills Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yay, another extreme hot take. You people realize Davis missed time and also played hurt right? Commenting on his total catch numbers is unreasonable. Another extreme hot take over one game...really over one half...of a game we won by double digits and against one of the best pass defenses and secondary's in the league. You people realize there is talent on the other teams we play too right? You realize they get paid to make plays too right? Not every player is going to dominate every second of every game. Is it Sunday yet cuz I don't how much more of these extreme hot takes I can take? All anyone can do is nitpick and find any crack in the armor that could prevent us from winning a Super Bowl. Gabe Davis and Isaiah McKenzie have not been consistent enough to squash the view many of us held heading into the season, that we should get another reliable WR. This isn’t some knee jerk reaction, many of us have always felt this way. Can we win a SB as is.. absolutely. However, we’re nitpicking .. and a very visible area to go is in the fact our WR2, WR3 and TE1 have all been inconsistent/injured to this point. Singletary has been Allen’s chain mover in the pass game more often than a slant/sit-down/quick-out to McKenzie or Davis. Against KC, McKenzie bungled a TD and dropped a pass backed up in our own end zone. Last night Davis was invisible for most of the night and dropped a house call slant. Can they all get better and solve the problem internally, yes. But this is, and has been, a potential crack in the armor. Edited October 31, 2022 by SCBills 1 1 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 On one hand Davis does seem to disappear at times, but on the other he has 1/4 of the big plays in the passing game on 1/8 of Josh's pass attempts. 1 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, BananaB said: Lol! It’s not just Davis it’s McKenzie too. Both have not lived up to expectations. Find a better slot guy or find a better guy for the outside, either will help. Couldn’t disagree more. Davis wasn’t great last night but he’s a wr that needs to be game planned for opposite Diggs. Mck and Shakir are fine at slot. Zero need for a Prima Dona obj or any other wr. S and OL depth would be fine if a deal can be found. Otherwise the Bills are fine. Quote
Augie Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: On one hand Davis does seem to disappear at times, but on the other he has 1/4 of the big plays in the passing game on 1/8 of Josh's pass attempts. Yes, he has disappeared at times, but we need to look past that when he was playing on a bad ankle. I’m glad he did what he could, even if it was mostly as a decoy. It’s hard to play WR in the NFL with a bad wheel. The guy makes plays. And complaining about him is mostly nitpicking, indeed. Life isn’t perfect. Quote
John from Riverside Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, BananaB said: He’s a big play guy. He deserves his opportunity but we can’t wait on him while chasing a Super Bowl, we need reinsurance if he can’t pull it together. He’s around 50% catch rate this year and also for his career. You can say he was injured but in those games he played he had drops and that got nothing to do with a bum ankle. Allen is playing out of his mind for the most part and besides Diggs no one has truly been reliable. Absolutely ridiculous that you don’t consider Gabe Davis a reliable option Quote
BananaB Posted November 1, 2022 Author Posted November 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Augie said: Yes, he has disappeared at times, but we need to look past that when he was playing on a bad ankle. I’m glad he did what he could, even if it was mostly as a decoy. It’s hard to play WR in the NFL with a bad wheel. The guy makes plays. And complaining about him is mostly nitpicking, indeed. Life isn’t perfect. It’s not nitpicking to say we need more consistency out of him or McKenzie. Quote
Billz4ever Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 20 hours ago, BananaB said: Does Gabe or Isiah even have 20 catches this year? We lost Beas’s 80+ and these guys might not hit that combined. We need more then Diggs and Allen. Hope Beane is making calls because that was a ***** brutal game. I was thinking more on the lines of another punter. How can we go all season with a guy that's only done his job a handful of times so far this year? Quote
BananaB Posted November 1, 2022 Author Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Absolutely ridiculous that you don’t consider Gabe Davis a reliable option He’s averaging 2.6 catches a game in a pass happy offense and catching less the 50% of his targets. He’s the #2 guy in a pass happy offense. Must be Allen throwing him inaccurate passes all the time, that’s haunted him since college.🙄 Gabe makes big plays but he hasn’t been consistent enough to be called reliable 3 Quote
SinceThe70s Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, BananaB said: It’s not nitpicking to say we need more consistency out of him or McKenzie. It's not nitpicking to start a thread with the title you chose or your opening comment. Quote
Success Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 By "bad," do you mean "not at all"? 1 2 Quote
HappyDays Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Augie said: I think I like Davis more than most people. I love what he brings to our team. He makes big plays. This is weird to say, but part of the problem is that he only makes big plays. He's either catching 25+ yards bombs for TDs, or nothing. I've said this before, I think he would be a perfect #3 WR in our offense. He gives DBs a lot of trouble when he's running straight at them and he finds an extra gear downfield. But I want someone that gives us a little bit of everything to be our #2 WR. It's hard being a full time outside WR without the ability to, for example, run slant routes consistently. And Davis is inexplicably weaker at the catch point the closer to the LOS he gets. There's nothing wrong with his skill set, he fulfills that vertical role very well. The problem is we're asking him to fulfill a bigger role than his skill set would imply. Just my two cents. 4 Quote
Augie Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is weird to say, but part of the problem is that he only makes big plays. He's either catching 25+ yards bombs for TDs, or nothing. I've said this before, I think he would be a perfect #3 WR in our offense. He gives DBs a lot of trouble when he's running straight at them and he finds an extra gear downfield. But I want someone that gives us a little bit of everything to be our #2 WR. It's hard being a full time outside WR without the ability to, for example, run slant routes consistently. And Davis is inexplicably weaker at the catch point the closer to the LOS he gets. There's nothing wrong with his skill set, he fulfills that vertical role very well. The problem is we're asking him to fulfill a bigger role than his skill set would imply. Just my two cents. Fair points. I think his game has and will progress. Working with Diggs won’t hurt that at all. Quote
T master Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) On 10/31/2022 at 2:59 PM, BananaB said: Are you serious? Outside of Diggs who else has proven to be a consistent player. Well lets see how about Davis, & Knox, & McKenzie now Cook is coming around they had Hodgins which given more reps probably could have made more catches . Have you been getting a beer while these guys have been making catches during the games ? Oh & by the way did you see what Beane did today he didn't trade for a WR - BUT HE TRADED FOR ANOTHER RUNNING BACK !! Thank you very much ... Edited November 2, 2022 by T master Quote
Locomark Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 This team wants run after the catch, so I expected the Hines type move and I expect the return of the jet sweep and more things to use Mckenzie in the open field again. I think those WR screens will start being a staple as well with many players since we have a bunch of guys that can block and run them. Why run risky slants that can be tipped when you can go outside into open space? Quote
BananaB Posted November 2, 2022 Author Posted November 2, 2022 7 hours ago, T master said: Well lets see how about Davis, & Knox, & McKenzie now Cook is coming around they had Hodgins which given more reps probably could have made more catches . Have you been getting a beer while these guys have been making catches during the games ? Oh & by the way did you see what Beane did today he didn't trade for a WR - BUT HE TRADED FOR ANOTHER RUNNING BACK !! Thank you very much ... I’m seeing all the catches, there just ain’t many being caught by either guy. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 I'm sure if the time comes that Brandon Beane will do his due diligence on Beckham. If he's not ready to roll one other name I could kind of see the Bills looking at is T. Y. Hilton. Yes he's a tad older and has had recent injury issues as well...but he did average 14.4YPC for the Colts in 10 games last season. Quote
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