NFL Week 8: Packers at Bills - post game thread

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

Gabe Davis was very unprofessional. He needs a talking to IMO.

 

He will get one, Count on It.

 

McDermott was clearly not happy in his postgame presser and specifically called out that penalty as “We Can’t Do That”

[Scott7975]

3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I don't really care about the trash talking. I just don't want to see bad penalties. 

 

I dont like that he lost his head and took a penalty but at the same time I get it.  That dude was mouthing off and pushing and punching our receivers all game long.  He never got a flag for after play activities though.

[DrDawkinstein]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but keep in mind a lot of the negativity after a double digit win is because a LOT of people had the Bills at -10.5 or -11 and due to some 2nd half sloppiness, they juuuust failed to cover.

[newcam2012]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

I doubt it works that well again. The Bills came in as the #1 run D in the NFL.

I was pretty confident the Bills would contain the Packer run game. I knew their run game was solid but I still trusted  the Bills defense. Especially, since the Packers literally have a limited passing game. I never thought they would get gashed play after play. It raises a little concern in the back of my mind. 

[Scott7975]

3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

You can claim they would've done this or that, but the fact is they were getting gouged and that was typical of Frazier not being able to adapt to what the opposing offense is doing. And if you know you're down those players, you must adapt.  Letting the other team rip off 10 , 20 yard runs is effectively the same as a passing game.  You tell the D line to play the run, not the pass.  It seemed like our D line was playing the pass all night.

 

Frazier didnt adjust because it was non sensicle for GB to keep running the football no matter how much they were gashing us.  They didnt have the clock to win like that.

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

He will get one, Count on It.

 

McDermott was clearly not happy in his postgame presser and specifically called out that penalty as “We Can’t Do That”

 

Agree, it's one thing not to take crap from a team.  It's another with some of the stuff that happened tonight.

It's unprofessional.  I want McD to nip it in the bud.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

You can claim they would've done this or that, but the fact is they were getting gouged and that was typical of Frazier not being able to adapt to what the opposing offense is doing. And if you know you're down those players, you must adapt.  Letting the other team rip off 10 , 20 yard runs is effectively the same as a passing game.  You tell the D line to play the run, not the pass.  It seemed like our D line was playing the pass all night.

 

 

 Once again out of respect of one of the best QBs ever to play. They rather take the chance against the run and it worked, they only gave up 17 points.

 

 

[Shake_My_Head]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but keep in mind a lot of the negativity after a double digit win is because a LOT of people had the Bills at -10.5 or -11 and due to some 2nd half sloppiness, they juuuust failed to cover.

IDK.   Josh being 5 of 14 for ~90 yards and two picks in the second half may have something to do with that negativity as well.

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Exactly... they didnt execute.  They burned all their clock on their own and didnt execute. Also the Bills stuffed the run when it mattered.  Thats why running teams dont win many games.  That isnt likely to happen again.  They were telling GB to run the ball knowing GB didnt have the clock.  Missed tackles suck but its one game.  They been stout against the run all year.  It'll be fine. 

What they were giving up on the ground, they might as well have been giving up through the air since the yardage gained was pass like yardage.  We knew they were running but the D still couldn't stop it.  That is rigid play calling and shows a lack of ability to adapt to what the offense is doing.

 

The play calling tonight was questionable on both sides of the ball and the Bills won because they are simple a much better team than GB, but bad execution and play calling kept this game closer than it should've been. This game should've played out how the Pittsburgh game did the second half.

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Frazier didnt adjust because it was non sensicle for GB to keep running the football no matter how much they were gashing us.  They didnt have the clock to win like that.

I didn’t think the defensive play calling was bad anyway. It was the execution which let us down.

[stevestojan]

For perhaps a less emotional reaction to tonight’s game, here is the #1 takeaway from the game in NFL.com’s weekly “what we learned from todays games” article: 

 

1) Allen has emerged as a great leader, not just a great talent. 

Unequivocally, Josh Allen is in the conversation for being the best quarterback in the NFL. However, it was incredibly transparent on a chilly night in Buffalo how much he's grown as a leader and a galvanizing force for the league's best team. Allen doesn't run safely. He should play safer; he should slide a bit more. Allen doesn't always stay composed. He should be a bit more level-headed when he takes exception to an opponent's physicality, rather than having to be pulled away by teammates. But these are reasons why it's clear Allen is beloved by his teammates and the guiding force in the Bills' quest for a first-ever Super Bowl championship. Allen runs to the fray, he doesn't shy away from it. He inspires not just with his play but with the fire in his belly. The ability of Allen -- who had a rather ho-hum night by his standards with 267 yards of offense and two touchdown passes -- to lift his teammates is just as impressive as his weekly statistical success. To see Allen ascend from a one-man adventure in his early seasons to a truly special talent has been astounding. But to see him emerge as a leader ready to fight, scratch and captain his team through all weathers has been pretty damn special, too. The best teams often have the best leaders, and that appears to be the case with the incandescent gunslinger from Firebaugh.

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Frazier didnt adjust because it was non sensicle for GB to keep running the football no matter how much they were gashing us.  They didnt have the clock to win like that.

If they are gashing the D that is no different than running effective pass plays. You adapt to what the offense is doing.  If you are letting them rip off huge chunks of yards on the ground, you might as well make their receivers beat you since the receiving core is GBs big weakness right now.

[Big Turk]

6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I was pretty confident the Bills would contain the Packer run game. I knew their run game was solid but I still trusted  the Bills defense. Especially, since the Packers literally have a limited passing game. I never thought they would get gashed play after play. It raises a little concern in the back of my mind. 

 

The Bills were up 17 points and got caught by surprise the Packers still kept running it...they even admitted it. Both Miller and Rousseau. Likely they got a little to antsy to rush the passer and got caught out of position.

[Scott7975]

 

[Scott7975]

4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

What they were giving up on the ground, they might as well have been giving up through the air since the yardage gained was pass like yardage.  We knew they were running but the D still couldn't stop it.  That is rigid play calling and shows a lack of ability to adapt to what the offense is doing.

 

The play calling tonight was questionable on both sides of the ball and the Bills won because they are simple a much better team than GB, but bad execution and play calling kept this game closer than it should've been. This game should've played out how the Pittsburgh game did the second half.

 

They used 11 minutes down 3 scores to get 3 points.  No thats not the same as a passing offense.

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Frazier didnt adjust because it was non sensicle for GB to keep running the football no matter how much they were gashing us.  They didnt have the clock to win like that.

 

The Bills seem to sometimes allow the other team to run themselves out of time when they have big leads. It's happened a lot...Bills play softer coverage, allow some plays, but keep them in front of them and make them use up a ton of time.

[Roundybout]

Great first half, boring and sloppy second half. Whatever, happy Halloween!

[muppy]

one stat I  read is the Bills had 4 penalties tonight the Packers 8.

[Richard Noggin]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

That's a punk. 

 

He plays a tough position, so if he needs to ignore reality to keep himself confident, whatever. 

 

But that's some bull$#!t right there. 

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

They used 11 minutes down 3 scores to get 3 points.  No thats not the same as a passing offense.

You're lumping multiple drives together where they either didn't convert or came away with a fg.

 

Bottom line is the run game was just as effective as a pass game there and the defense did not adjust accordingly.

 

If the offense's weakness is their receiving Corp, you make THEM beat you and plug up run.  You shouldn't have to play nickel defense every down if the receivers are the weakness of the other team.

 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Billz4ever