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Posted (edited)
  On 10/29/2022 at 2:01 AM, muppy said:

 

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Where's his hammer ?

 

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This is a strange sequence of events.

The guy assaulted Pelosi only after police arrived and while they were watching?

And he didn't use the hammer he was holding but used Paul's hammer? So odd.

 

 

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  On 10/28/2022 at 9:50 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


 

A nudist from Berkeley who makes hemp jewelry??  Oh no… lefty wacko

 

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I've been saying it for a couple years now: it's the Horseshoe Theory of politics. The wacko left and the wacko right are converging at the open end of the horseshoe, coming from opposite directions. The assailant was a radical nudist (lefty) who hangs out in homeless camps (lefty) who was deep into Q Anon theories (righty) and obviously hates the Democrat establishment (righty).

 

Posted
  On 10/29/2022 at 12:55 AM, B-Man said:

but this is definitely not the "Maga rioter attacks" narrative that some are trying to push here.

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First: "MAGA" is wrong. "Q Anon" is the correct term. Not all MAGA people are Q Anon adherents, but it's pretty safe to say all Q Anon adherents are MAGA people - the whole Q Anon Cult is built around Trump as some kind of messiah.

And this guy was fully immersed in Q Anon and related rightwing nutjob fantasies. The whole enchilada: Pizzagate. Baby eaters. And just to make our Catholic posters cringe, a suggestion that the Catholic Church was one of the primary sources of Satanism and child abuse. (It's very easy to find this nut's social media history).

So there's this weird thing going on with the fringe MAGA types, some of whom seem to love posting on football fansites. It's the idea that there's two types:

 

1. The Rational "Do Your Own Research" Types who have convinced themselves that there is a grand conspiracy built around ritualistic child abuse and world domination of a secretive elite.

 

As opposed to:

 

2. The Irrational Nutjobs who have convinced themselves that there is a grand conspiracy built around ritualistic child abuse and world domination by a secretive elite.

 

Maybe take a step back here and try to deprogram yourself. You'll see that there is no distinction at all. There is no such thing as a Rational Q Anon Adherent just as there is no such thing as a Scientific Flat Earther. They. Are. All. Nuts. And a lot of them are dangerous.

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Posted
  On 10/29/2022 at 1:48 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

So Pelosi is sleeping, guy breaks in, Pelosi wakes up and confronts him.  It’s reasonable to assume Pelosi is in boxers or underwear.  The crazed intruder is, for whatever reason in his underwear.  After all, he’s a crazed intruder. 
 

The hammer(s) are odd.  One hammer? A guy breaks into your house and has a weapon.  Scary af but understandable.  Two hammers, one held by each guy?  Maybe there’s construction ongoing in the house, but the fact pattern seems pretty odd. 
 


 


 

 

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It is odd, and we will no doubt be hearing more about it.

My guess: guy breaks in. Mr. Pelosi realizes he's seen him before - maybe he's been showing up in the neighborhood and confronted Pelosi before (this is what crazy activists do), or maybe he knows of him from the guy's warped activism in Democratic Party circles in SF (which are pretty out there). Pelosi tries to talk him down. And it works for a bit. But then the cops come (alarm? someone called?) and the guy realizes it's now or never and starts attacking him with the hammer.

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Posted (edited)
  On 10/29/2022 at 12:55 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

You gotta admit, something is off here.

 

Throw this nut in prison and lose the key,

 

but this is definitely not the "Maga rioter attacks" narrative that some are trying to push here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Police said they were struggling for the same hammer, which belonged to Pelosi. 
 

Why do you personally jump straight to conspiracy think? 

  On 10/29/2022 at 1:48 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

So Pelosi is sleeping, guy breaks in, Pelosi wakes up and confronts him.  It’s reasonable to assume Pelosi is in boxers or underwear.  The crazed intruder is, for whatever reason in his underwear.  After all, he’s a crazed intruder. 
 

The hammer(s) are odd.  One hammer? A guy breaks into your house and has a weapon.  Scary af but understandable.  Two hammers, one held by each guy?  Maybe there’s construction ongoing in the house, but the fact pattern seems pretty odd. 
 


 


 

 

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Fox reports single hammer belonging to resident. Forced entry. 
 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-husband-paul-pelosi-assaulted-san-francisco-suspect-david-depape-police-say

 

This was a deranged internet nut who broke in and used Pelosi’s own hammer against him. 
 

Your conspiracies make for better scripts though. I’ll grant you that. 

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  On 10/29/2022 at 8:58 AM, Sundancer said:


Police said they were struggling for the same hammer, which belonged to Pelosi. 
 

Why do you personally jump straight to conspiracy think? 


Fox reports single hammer belonging to resident. Forced entry. 
 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-husband-paul-pelosi-assaulted-san-francisco-suspect-david-depape-police-say

 

This was a deranged internet nut who broke in and used Pelosi’s own hammer against him. 
 

Your conspiracies make for better scripts though. I’ll grant you that. 

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What conspiracy are you implying I scripted up, Tiny Dancer?  I commented on a report that suggested something other than what was reported later.  I suggested that it was an odd fact pattern, which it was.  
 

The only conspiracy angle raised was by you, seeing tales that were not spun, and fables never whispered by a roaring fire. 

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Posted (edited)
  On 10/29/2022 at 3:56 AM, The Frankish Reich said:

First: "MAGA" is wrong. "Q Anon" is the correct term. Not all MAGA people are Q Anon adherents, but it's pretty safe to say all Q Anon adherents are MAGA people - the whole Q Anon Cult is built around Trump as some kind of messiah.

And this guy was fully immersed in Q Anon and related rightwing nutjob fantasies. The whole enchilada: Pizzagate. Baby eaters. And just to make our Catholic posters cringe, a suggestion that the Catholic Church was one of the primary sources of Satanism and child abuse. (It's very easy to find this nut's social media history).

So there's this weird thing going on with the fringe MAGA types, some of whom seem to love posting on football fansites. It's the idea that there's two types:

 

1. The Rational "Do Your Own Research" Types who have convinced themselves that there is a grand conspiracy built around ritualistic child abuse and world domination of a secretive elite.

 

As opposed to:

 

2. The Irrational Nutjobs who have convinced themselves that there is a grand conspiracy built around ritualistic child abuse and world domination by a secretive elite.

 

Maybe take a step back here and try to deprogram yourself. You'll see that there is no distinction at all. There is no such thing as a Rational Q Anon Adherent just as there is no such thing as a Scientific Flat Earther. They. Are. All. Nuts. And a lot of them are dangerous.

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You’re missing the point imo. 
 

Your characterization of fringe element nutjobs is fair, though I see it as less of a horseshoe and more of a closed loop.  I see very little difference between an anarchist of the left looking to disrupt/destroy/tear down than I do someone on the right doing the same.  They are the same people. 
 

The important issue is how these people are leveraged for political gain.  On a very local level, @Sundancer creating a narrative that people are creating or fomenting conspiracies when discussing the odd fact pattern initially offered in reporting last night.  Now, while he was way ahead of himself on that issue—and apparently was completely comfortable with the narrative you offered about Pelosi meeting/knowing/seeing his attacker around town—it’s entirely possible he was concerned that my post may have reached and influenced my ones of followers and the 5-13 regular posters here.  Or, it’s possible he was seeking some version of moral high ground populated by the perpetually unimaginative. 
 

On a much larger and more important scale, look at the response.  Biden tying this attack by this obviously deranged individual to Republican voters is repugnant.  There are crazies all over the place, people being pushed into oncoming trains, people sucker punching others, and a nightly dose of Dateline NBC reveals some horrendous stuff goes on in the world. 
 

It is deliberate, intentional and divisive with purpose.  This isn’t a case of political violence regardless of whether or not this guy is found with a ticket to the next Trump rally or not. 
 

He’s not the only one, of course, but he is the latest.   Why?  Well, like stolen election allegations and the like, it works.

 

Rand Paul nailed it. 


 


 

 

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Posted
  On 10/29/2022 at 1:37 PM, BillsFanNC said:

Who are the regular posters on this football fansite who seem to be up to speed on everything Qanon? 

 

@BillStime

@The Frankish Reich

@Tiberius

 

Keep clowning.

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Tibs, have you noticed this freakshow always pulls this BS right after he gets called out for his hypocrisy?

 

And um, who started a competing fan site when their deranged Qanon leader got booted and then hid their political section?

 

Que the tantrum in 5-4-3-2-1

 

 

  On 10/24/2022 at 11:09 PM, BillsFanNC said:

***** off!!!!

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Idiots

 

 

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Posted
  On 10/29/2022 at 2:25 PM, Brueggs said:

And interestingly enough, they spend more time thinking about Donald Trump than Donald Trump...

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They is a strange argument. It's pretty stupid really. On a political message board a person trying to say other talk too much about the leader of the opposition party? 

 

Does this person understand this is a political message board? 

 

 

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