Richard Noggin Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Sure, but if the argument is that Kupp can't be a slot receiver because he is the #1 receiver that can only be on the basis of his production. Because he isn't a prototypical X receiver in the mould of Eric Moulds or Randy Moss or peak AJ Green. You can almost count on one hand the number of times in a season Kupp is asked to line up split wide and run a fade or a deep corner route. He isn't great at that stuff so why ask him to do it? Far better to do what the Rams do which is scheme to his strengths. Totally agree that Kupp is, in fact, the rare TRUE slot WR and his team's undisputed #1 WR by design and production. Bit of an anomaly. Quote
Doc Brown Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 9 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I'm old enough to remember when Next Gen type stats told us that Josh Allen was a bust, Lamar was going to be a multiple time MVP and Sam, Baker and Rosen were the future of the NFL. Congratulations. You're older than four. 2 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 17 hours ago, StHustle said: Josh has a 126.8 passer rating when targeting Lil Dirty out of the slot. 2nd in the league with 3 TDs out of the slot so far this season. Yet some people want McKenzie benched and have given up on him 🤦🏾♂️ I question whether that’s more McKenzie or Josh. There’s no doubt McKenzie is a weapon, I don’t think anyone will argue that. The problem with him are his mental lapses. If he was one of the top 3 mentioned slot receivers, he would have 4+ TD’s and the team would be undefeated. Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 3 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: I question whether that’s more McKenzie or Josh. There’s no doubt McKenzie is a weapon, I don’t think anyone will argue that. The problem with him are his mental lapses. If he was one of the top 3 mentioned slot receivers, he would have 4+ TD’s and the team would be undefeated. Lil' Dirty is not the reason why we are not undefeated. He was 7 for 9 in the Dolphins game and had Josh not thrown the ball into the ground McKenzie would have had a TD and won the game. Now, he had a horrible game in KC and he deserves the criticism for that performance but I think he's much better than what we just saw. 2 Quote
TheBillsOrDie Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 23 hours ago, Virgil said: Cupp being listed as a slot is just cheating and skews the whole list. I get that he lines up there a lot, but he's not a slot receiver I agree. we only lines up in the slot 55% Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, TheBillsOrDie said: I agree. we only lines up in the slot 55% This year, sure. 65% last year. 74% the year before. And 55% is still a majority. He is a slot receiver. That isn't a knock on him. He is brilliant. But he is a slot. Quote
Saxum Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 2:13 PM, Haslett_Stomp said: You're correct, no excuse for that one. Josh commented elsewise but I guess you know better. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 11:37 AM, Mango said: I am/was a big McKenzie fan coming into this season but he really frustrated me in the last outing. He has been moderately productive for us. The eyeball test as you mentioned speaks to a different tune. He flashes at times and I was hoping the McKenzie from the Pats game last year is what I was hoping we would see consistently this year. The one McKenzie drop in KC was discussed at length on the various WGR shows, and that that one was on Allen for not placing the ball in the right spot. I do like what we are beginning to see from Shakir. I agree with a couple of posters people like Cupp are not slot receivers, even though they line up at times in the slot. Then again, I’d say the same on Godwin. I watch the Bucs weekly when it’s doesn’t conflict with the Bills and Godwin is more like Davis. Scott Miller is the Bucs slot guy. That’s why these lists are not always accurate. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted October 30, 2022 Author Posted October 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Josh commented elsewise but I guess you know better. I don't doubt you but do you happen to know where/when? Quote
Saxum Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I don't doubt you but do you happen to know where/when? It was in an interview post game saying he had done it unplanned. 1 Quote
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