Bruffalo Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 A lot of hate here for a guy who clearly didn't have it all put together during his time in Buffalo and the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but I'm not gonna hate on a guy for liking Buffalo. Wish it worked out better but it is what it is. 3 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 4:43 PM, Bruffalo said: A lot of hate here for a guy who clearly didn't have it all put together during his time in Buffalo and the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but I'm not gonna hate on a guy for liking Buffalo. Wish it worked out better but it is what it is. Expand How do you know "the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed"? You can offer someone who has a struggle with mental issues or substance abuse all the support network there is. You can't force them to take advantage of it if they're unready or unwilling. I'll grant I don't think the Bills handled his fracture correctly (I don't think we had a SOFTA staff and facility) but, Watkins also later admitted he ***** up his own rehab by taking his boot off and failing to follow medical advice. My thing: is I don't believe Sammy Watkins liked Buffalo at all when he was here. I think he viewed himself as a superior WR talent stuck on an inferior team with 2nd rate QB (Orton and Taylor) throwing to him. I think when we traded him to the LA Rams he viewed it as release and redemption - the chance to become the player he deserved to be! Except he was consistently outplayed by the WR ahead of him on the depth chart. I think his Buffa-Love was created in hindsight by the chance to play with 3 different SB winning QB and failing to achieve the same production he had with the Bills. 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 5:01 PM, Beck Water said: How do you know "the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed"? Expand During his tenure the Bills did not have the culture or support staff for young players that they do now. The coaching staff was not as detail oriented about player development, recovery, and physical load management. They may have reached out, but they weren't as buttoned up as they are now with player development. I don't want to make it sound like his career trajectory was the sole fault of the Bills either, ultimately it was up to him. Quote
Beck Water Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 5:09 PM, Bruffalo said: During his tenure the Bills did not have the culture or support staff for young players that they do now. The coaching staff was not as detail oriented about player development, recovery, and physical load management. They may have reached out, but they weren't as buttoned up as they are now with player development. I don't want to make it sound like his career trajectory was the sole fault of the Bills either, ultimately it was up to him. Expand From what we know, I can't disagree with you that the Bills seem to have a better organization now, but there's a lot of space between "didn't have then what we have now" and "failed to get him the support network he needed". 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 I don’t think Sammy should be banished to the group of exiled Bills alumni (like McGahee or OJ). He was obviously immature, but had bad injury luck as well. I have trouble getting worked up about it, because we stunk during those years and he could have been the second coming of Jerry Rice and it wouldn’t have made us not stink anymore. Quote
WhoTom Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Prove it, Sammy. Go to a Bills playoff home game in January and take off your shirt. 2 1 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/27/2022 at 11:15 PM, Big Turk said: Imagine if he could have gotten his act together and played with Josh? Expand He has played with Mahomes, Lamar, and Rodgers and has never had a breakout season. What makes you think Allen is the X factor to bring that out Quote
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 6:00 PM, gonzo1105 said: He has played with Mahomes, Lamar, and Rodgers and has never had a breakout season. What makes you think Allen is the X factor to bring that out Expand He never got his act together. If he had, he would still be here. Quote
bigK14094 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Sammy can come back when Rex comes back........ Quote
babulator Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 I used to be angry at the whole Sammy thing, but the more I watch and hear him I kind of feel sad tbh. Yes, he's rich and famous and everything that goes with that, and we shouldn't feel sorry the rich and famous and blah blah blah. But this guy just seems off. Idk if it's just the pressure and reality of missed expectations, or what other stuff is going on in his life, but he just seems like a shell of a person. IDK, the guy comes across as sad or worse all the time. You couldn't pay me to trade places with him. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 He seems to look quite a bit bigger than I remember when seeing his interview Quote
somnus00 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Past performance and attitude aside, I remember him saying that the Bills were his favorite team growing up. Maybe that was just draft puff-piece material. Quote
boyst Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 6:19 AM, Buffalo716 said: He is a WR and liked Moulds and peerless price Moulds was probably only rivaled physically by TO and randy moss in his era … he was a beast Expand I want the Bills to sign him to this day. Just throw him 1 six yard pass!!!! 1 Quote
Rico Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 You can blame Sammy, you can blame Whaley, but as always, best to blame Ralph. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 7:28 PM, boyst said: I want the Bills to sign him to this day. Just throw him 1 six yard pass!!!! Expand Get him 10k!! tragedy 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 4:43 PM, Bruffalo said: A lot of hate here for a guy who clearly didn't have it all put together during his time in Buffalo and the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but I'm not gonna hate on a guy for liking Buffalo. Wish it worked out better but it is what it is. Expand He didn't like it when he was here and he went out of his way to crap on us. Magically he likes it now. F him. 1 Quote
PonyBoy Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 1:52 PM, Freddie's Dead said: RIP. Expand Loved him in The Descendants 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 8:42 PM, PonyBoy said: Loved him in The Descendants Expand He was good in everything. Helluvan actor. Quote
Jammer8732 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 I just remember someone checking on him after each catch to make sure he was alright 🥴 I’ve never seen anything like it. Very odd. 2 Quote
Nuncha Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Hammy Watchins was a Buffalo bust. 2 number one picks wasted. 1 Quote
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