With the Eagles and Chiefs making roster moves, are the Bills already good enough to stand pat?

[Floydboy12]

Raiders are losing again today. They may be ready to part with Jacobs and he has mileage left in him. I would much prefer him to Hunt. 

[DCofNC]

22 minutes ago, Floydboy12 said:

Raiders are losing again today. They may be ready to part with Jacobs and he has mileage left in him. I would much prefer him to Hunt. 

I’d be all for Jacobs, I think he’s the exact type they need.  Hunt has talent, but I honestly think people remember what he did in KC and think he is that good still and he hasn’t flashed that in YEARS. 

[Bills2022]

The Chiefs are a concern.  The Eagles are not. I have been watching them and they are a very good team but not in the league of the Bills or Chiefs.  I think the Bills will be fine as long as they get the #1 seed.  I would be a little concerned if the Chiefs got an edge rusher.  

[Niagara Dude]

46 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I’d be all for Jacobs, I think he’s the exact type they need.  Hunt has talent, but I honestly think people remember what he did in KC and think he is that good still and he hasn’t flashed that in YEARS. 

Jacobs can finish runs and already gashed the Chiefs this season,  he can also make catches out of the backfield.

[NickelCity]

Would absolutely love Jacobs on this roster. We've talked about him for a few weeks, but do we know if he's a realistic trade option? 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

Without a true threat teams are going to continue to play safeties back and LB'S away from the line because they know the Bills do not have a RB that can makes explosive plays.  You do realize the Bills drafted Moss in the 3rd round because they had no confidence Singletary.  As we all know , the weather gets bad in Dec/ January and you need a RB especially when those winds start going crazy.  It also give our cordinator a chance to avoid calling Allen runs to keep defences honest.

 

I think getting a Gibson or Hunt would be a game changer and would save Josh from taking all these hits. Even Jacobs from the Raiders would be a good choice.  Singletary is to slow (4.65) forty and has no burst to the line,  he is more suited to be a back up.  

 

As for giving up picks,  there is no guarantee on 3rd & 4th rounders the Bills choose.  Get a starting level RB who can provide explosive runs/plays and that really improves out offence. Gibson would be my choice because he is signed into next season for less then 2 million, he runs a 4.39 forty and is a excellent pass catcher and explosive play runner, I would settle for either Hunt or Jacobs. I believe you trade out Moss and pick,  

 

Moss is pretty much useless for this team right now.

Yeah…:because only teams with great running backs win Super Bowls. Stop with your absolute nonsense.  
 

We are trying to win a super bowl.  Having a star RB isn’t necessary.  It wasn’t necessary for Eli manning to win a super bowl.  It wasn’t necessary for Nick Foles to win a Super bowl.  It wasn’t necessary for Patrick Mahomes to win a super bowl,  it’s not necessary for Josh Allen to win a super bowl.  
 

meanwhile—— our RB is so bad that opposing defenses have been able to key on our pass game so hard that our passing game has struggled to the tune of being the best passing offense in football.  
 

Yes, upgrading our starting Rb would improve our offense.  So would upgrading our QB, WR, TE, LT, LG, RG, RT, C or FB.  Adding better players will usually improve your team.  Duh.

 

but it’s not necessary to win a SB

[BullBuchanan]

 

47 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

Would absolutely love Jacobs on this roster. We've talked about him for a few weeks, but do we know if he's a realistic trade option? 

He's in a contract year, and with the Raiders losing today they may start looking to next season. It's possible he becomes the highest paid RB in the league next year.

With all of that in mind, the raiders may want to consider moving him, unless McDaniels is prepared to make a case that they can reload and compete for a Super Bowl after possibly finishing at the bottom of the league.They have an out with Carr after this year. They could choose to use that to bring in a guy like Jimmy G, Tom Brady, etc which would make keeping Jacobs more palatable, but if they go the rookie QB route, I'd expect not.

[Bills2022]

I don't know if the Bills are going to make a move, or if there is a move out there, but if the Eagles or Chiefs beat the Bills in the playoffs we are going to never stop hearing how the Eagles or Chiefs went all in and the Bills did not. Not fair, but that is what they are going to be saying. 

 

Edited October 30, 2022 by Bills2022

[Putin]

On 10/27/2022 at 3:58 PM, Rigotz said:

Here me out.

 

Chrischen McCafrey. Mach the 49ers offer and then double it.

Pretty sure the 9ers are pretty darn happy with the trade 

5 minutes ago, Bills2022 said:

I don't know if the Bills are going to make a move, or if there is a move out there, but if the Eagles or Chiefs beat the Bills in the playoffs we are going to never stop hearing how the Eagles or Chiefs went all in and the Bills did not. Not fair, but that is what they are going to be saying. 

 

I think it will be pretty fair IF GOD FORBID that does happen !!! 

[BillsShredder83]

20 hours ago, NewEra said:

I agree, he won’t be on this team next year.
 

He’s not special but your exaggerating his ineffectiveness.  

 

He’s so bad, that his career ypc is 4.7- always running behind a sub par run blocking line.  

Christian Mccaffery 4.6

kareem hunt 4.6

saquon barkley 4.6

alvin Kamara 4.6

Austin ekeler 4.6

Josh Jacobs 4.4

Derrick Henry is 4.8 a whole .1 better

 

keep making up nonsense 

 

 

 

 

 

Averaging that in a pass first offense with high safety, is not the same as playing defenses that can respect the run game and are all in more balanced offenses.

 

Swap motor with any one of those teams, who do you think is more effective?

 

Motor in sf, TN, cle, Vegas, LA chargers.... which one of those teams do you see his numbers improving at? (It's none of them)

[Billz4ever]

On 10/27/2022 at 4:15 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

 

We can easily free up enough cap space to fit both.  Hunt wont cost much and we can do an incentive based deal with OBJ

To anyone's knowledge OBJ isn't even close to being practice-ready.  

[NoSaint]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

I watch games.  Thanks for the advice though. 

 

Motor isn’t keeping us from winning a super bowl.  He’s better than you think.  Sure, there are better RBs out there…. But we can win the super bowl with him.  We can also keep future draft picks to help build the foundation for the future.

 

If they don’t pull the trigger on a Rb trade then they obviously feel they can win the SB with Motor.  If they didn’t, they would make a trade.  There is no doubt.  Winning the SB is the only goal this year.  
 

like I’ve said before, I wouldn’t hate spending a low rd pick on a trade for a back- but not because motor isn’t good enough.  Rather insurance in case he is hurt.  
 

Do we have to double down and trade future assets to win this year?  No, but it will better our chances.  Can we win with the current team?  Yes, but trading for a Rb could better our chances.  The price to pay will determine whether or not we land someone.  
 

 

 

 

it’s not a can they or not. 
 

they can. 
 

its a matter of does it move their odds from 20% to 25% as even that is huge 

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

it’s not a can they or not. 
 

they can. 
 

its a matter of does it move their odds from 20% to 25% as even that is huge 

as it is with every team in the league.  It’s all about the price.  Beane knows what he wants to spend and if the price is too high (as it was with mccaffery) Beane won’t pay it.  He’s not going to overpay.  I’m happy about that.  It’s possible to win the Super Bowl and not mortgage an overpay of assets.  If the price is right….I think he’ll pull the trigger.  

[Southern_Bills]

17 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

To anyone's knowledge OBJ isn't even close to being practice-ready.  

 

Heard mid November, That's just the media though, it may shock you but I don't have direct contact with him lol.

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Yep… I’d happily agree with them trading future assets(even big assets) if it’s for the right playmaker that increases their SB victory odds even greater. 

I don’t disagree.  For Beane, it’s all about the price.  He sets his trade budget and sticks to it.  
 

Would you have been happy trading a 3rd and 6th for Toney? 

[RyanC883]

On 10/27/2022 at 5:32 PM, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Right now the media is talking about all sorts of stuff - DE Josh Allen, Kareem Hunt, Chase Claypool. 

 

I think Odell Beckham might be the best move because of the cap, he's a rental, and there is no assets to give. 

 

As soon as the report came out that the Steelers view McCaffrey's deal as the starter template for any Claypool trade, my opinion is I'm out on that. 

 

Hunt, if he was a late-round pick and you could fit him, then I think he could be good on this team. 

 

And DE Josh Allen? What are the Jags going to want for him, and he joins the rotation probably behind Miller and Rousseau. Feels redundant. 

 

I'm wondering if the Bills don't try something at Safety to replace Hyde, or if 65.5 Damar Hamlin on PFF is "good enough". 

 

I also agree with other posters, a quality offensive lineman could really be used as well. 

 

A DL would not shock me (not our biggest need), but may be the only available piece cost wise (picks and cap), and we value getting to the other teams’s QB. 

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t disagree.  For Beane, it’s all about the price.  He sets his trade budget and sticks to it.  
 

Would you have been happy trading a 3rd and 6th for Toney? 

 

depends what Toney shows up.  Guy is a complete mystery.  

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

A DL would not shock me (not our biggest need), but may be the only available piece cost wise (picks and cap), and we value getting to the other teams’s QB. 

 

depends what Toney shows up.  Guy is a complete mystery.  

Yeah….but you can’t make trades in hindsight.  
 

I’d love to add a WR for a 3rd rd pick if the player is worth it.  The Toney trade is too high risk high reward for me. They might get absolutely nothing out of that 3rd rd pick if the wrong Toney shows up.  

[RyanC883]

Just now, NewEra said:

Yeah….but you can’t make trades in hindsight.  
 

I’d love to add a WR for a 3rd rd pick if the player is worth it.  The Toney trade is too high risk high reward for me. They might get absolutely nothing out of that 3rd rd pick if the wrong Toney shows up.  

 

def a gamble.  I thought I read the 3rd is “conditional” but not sure?

 

Odd that Kc did this because they generally draft well like Bean.  

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

5 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

Without a true threat teams are going to continue to play safeties back and LB'S away from the line because they know the Bills do not have a RB that can makes explosive plays.  You do realize the Bills drafted Moss in the 3rd round because they had no confidence Singletary.  As we all know , the weather gets bad in Dec/ January and you need a RB especially when those winds start going crazy.  It also give our cordinator a chance to avoid calling Allen runs to keep defences honest.

 

I think getting a Gibson or Hunt would be a game changer and would save Josh from taking all these hits. Even Jacobs from the Raiders would be a good choice.  Singletary is to slow (4.65) forty and has no burst to the line,  he is more suited to be a back up.  

 

As for giving up picks,  there is no guarantee on 3rd & 4th rounders the Bills choose.  Get a starting level RB who can provide explosive runs/plays and that really improves out offence. Gibson would be my choice because he is signed into next season for less then 2 million, he runs a 4.39 forty and is a excellent pass catcher and explosive play runner, I would settle for either Hunt or Jacobs. I believe you trade out Moss and pick,  

 

Moss is pretty much useless for this team right now.

 

 Hunt has been hasn't been good this year behind the best OL in the league. He'd be even worse here. 

 

 Everyone keeps talking about defenses keeping their safeties and linebackers back, yet we have the #1 passing offense in the league with Josh either #1 or #2 in most statistical categories. It hasn't prevented us hitting a ton of big plays in the passing  game either. We have one of the best big pass play offenses in the league.

 

 

 

[Billz4ever]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t disagree.  For Beane, it’s all about the price.  He sets his trade budget and sticks to it.  
 

Would you have been happy trading a 3rd and 6th for Toney? 

I wouldn't want Toney at all.  Bad attitude and doesn't seem to have a good work ethic from what I've seen.

 

Sometimes I think Bills fans are like a kid that just got an allowance, and the money is burning a hole in their pocket.  Don't know what they want to spend it on, but they have to buy something.

 

If it's a legit player who makes sense to Beane, I'm all for it, but it's like some people want to get somebody just for the sake of saying we made a move.

 

I don't get it.