Bills release new stadium renderings

[sullim4]

If the canopy is too big - you're going to end up with the old Texas Stadium with its ridiculous hole in the roof.

 

This feels fine - looks like the decks above the lower deck are all covered so the option is there if you want it.  I kind of like the idea that those who wish to brave the elements are rewarded with better/closer seats.

[UConn James]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

Look. it will be nice to have a new stadium with modern infrastructure and amenities.  No complaints. Let's go.

 

But if i want to nitpick, it's a missed opportunity....25 years from now people will still lament that the stadium is sitting in the middle of nowhere when it should be downtown,, and they should have spent the extra $ to put a retractable roof on the thing.  Even one of the two would have made this spectacular.  

 

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

No. Because it’s not a final design. 65% is unacceptable. 80% was reported a few months ago.

This is 40-50 year stadium. They have to get it right.

 

I put it at 30 years before the concrete starts failing. Acid rain and ever-increasingly wacky-weather wear are going to take a toll. The concrete from the 2013 renovations at the current stadium was already crumbling, as shown in the BN pictures awhile back.

 

Tennessee design info said they were putting the clear roof on to minimize weather damage and the expensive upkeep that causes.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Incredibly short sighted not to build a dome. Tenn is now getting one. Indy, Detroit, and Minn all have great domes. Even Chicago is talking about a dome. This stadium will be obsolete before it is even finished and the taxpayers are getting fleeced.

Ideally a new governor steps in and renegotiates a better deal. Pegula is far richer than he was only a few years ago. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

26 minutes ago, major said:

Think we should have had a hybrid of old war memorial and Rich stadium (Yankees did something similar with new Yankees stadium: it was a mix of new and old). No offense to the architects, but war memorial’s old design looks better than what they came up with #justsaying

We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. War memorial looked like a dump 

[SirAndrew]

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Incredibly short sighted not to build a dome. Tenn is now getting one. Indy, Detroit, and Minn all have great domes. Even Chicago is talking about a dome. This stadium will be obsolete before it is even finished and the taxpayers are getting fleeced.

Ideally a new governor steps in and renegotiates a better deal. Pegula is far richer than he was only a few years ago. 

Don’t count on anyone negotiating a better deal. I think this is the direction the NFL is headed. Owners simply aren’t going to pay, because they can always find someone in another city/state who’s willing to do

so. 

Edited October 27, 2022 by SirAndrew

[Not at the table Karlos]

3 minutes ago, sullim4 said:

If the canopy is too big - you're going to end up with the old Texas Stadium with its ridiculous hole in the roof.

 

This feels fine - looks like the decks above the lower deck are all covered so the option is there if you want it.  I kind of like the idea that those who wish to brave the elements are rewarded with better/closer seats.

Sounds like it will look similar to that but the hole will be bigger. Look at Tottenham Hotspur stadium. There's pics of it in this thread 

[sullim4]

Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Incredibly short sighted not to build a dome. Tenn is now getting one. Indy, Detroit, and Minn all have great domes. Even Chicago is talking about a dome. This stadium will be obsolete before it is even finished and the taxpayers are getting fleeced.

Ideally a new governor steps in and renegotiates a better deal. Pegula is far richer than he was only a few years ago. 

 

Tennessee is getting one because they want to host a Super Bowl.  Nashville is a desirable enough location, with enough high grade hotels that they could pull it off.  Buffalo just isn't, and that's OK.  Some of the best NFL cities - Green Bay, for instance, will never host a Super Bowl, even if they had a dome.

[Matt_In_NH]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Folks are already fond of them, but thanks for the immediate killjoy.

 

laugh

[Motorin']

8 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Lol. The cameras aren't the problem. The shadow is. Unless they edit the shadow out and put sunlight there it will be annoying. 

 

Dark and light are relative. The human eye can see all of the color in shadows and direct sunlight at the same time just fine. Older cameras have less dynamic range that the human eye, so the contrast between shadow and direct sunlight is severe...

 

Newer cameras have much better dynamic range than the human eye. So they can render all of the color in the shadows and all of the color in the highlights, making the contrast between the two much less. No more washed out sunny field or blackened shadows...

 

And the signal can also be processed to increase the brightness in the shadows and decrease the brightness in the highlights as long as the camera can properly expose both highlight and shadows at the same time. Older cameras could only properly expose one or the other... And the most annoying thing ever was watching a game with the camera set to auto exposure, so the picture would constantly pulse between all white highlights or all back shadows. 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Motorin'

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Heitz said:

 

Yes the rich people in the upper decks are dry and the poor folk on the sidelines, soaking wet. 🤔  35% of the fans will get wet, In the 20% of games that it rains...

 

 

Regardless looks sick to me - and there's a rep on talking about it on WGR, sounds sweet!

 

The poor be damned!! 

[Just Jack]

1 hour ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

Have you seen the titans renderings? We are definitely going the cheap route. 
 

https://www.tennesseetitans.com/news/titans-release-renderings-of-proposed-new-stadium

 

Well, they are paying about half a Billion more for their stadium. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Incredibly short sighted not to build a dome. Tenn is now getting one. Indy, Detroit, and Minn all have great domes. Even Chicago is talking about a dome. This stadium will be obsolete before it is even finished and the taxpayers are getting fleeced.

Ideally a new governor steps in and renegotiates a better deal. Pegula is far richer than he was only a few years ago. 

 

Yeah, put me in the anti-dome group for a few reasons

• The lighting always seems off on TV, its like basement lighting vs. outdoor lighting.  
• Buffalo can't host a super bowl so its hard to justify additional expenses of that magnitude when it likely does nothing to increase revenue
• It doesn't seem like it makes sense to build a dome in OP, and the infrastructure doesn't exist to do it downtown anywhere
• Football should be played outdoors

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, Steel City Mafia said:

 

Keep in mind this is the same guy who said renderings were “very close” 2-3 months ago.  Anyone see his nose growing by the minute? 😂

Edited October 27, 2022 by LabattBlue

[BillyBilliams]

I'm kind of in agreement with a lot of the people posting in here.  It seems to me like the upper seats will be the ones protected, while the 100 level seats will be exposed to the rain/snow/etc.  Which to me is kind of weird, considering the 100 level is going to be more expensive.  The plaza looks phenomenal though.

[wppete]

Not impressed. 

[jletha]

1 hour ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

Have you seen the titans renderings? We are definitely going the cheap route. 
 

https://www.tennesseetitans.com/news/titans-release-renderings-of-proposed-new-stadium

Very intentional choice on the scoreboard renderings haha. Weird they chose us instead of Indy or the Ravens or something.

[What a Tuel]

2 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

I'm kind of in agreement with a lot of the people posting in here.  It seems to me like the upper seats will be the ones protected, while the 100 level seats will be exposed to the rain/snow/etc.  Which to me is kind of weird, considering the 100 level is going to be more expensive.  The plaza looks phenomenal though.

 

I am not sure what kind of solution would solve that besides a dome....

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

Looks great, I'm really excited

[YoloinOhio]

Probably can build a JA statue into the renderings since it will be 2026

[SDS]

4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Keep in mind if his is the same guy who said renderings were “very close” 2-3 months ago.  Anyone see his nose growing by the minute? 😂

 

So, you live in a world where nothing changes? Or did Raccuia wake up one day and say, "I'm bored. I'm just gonna make ***** up today and make people mad."?