Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, corta765 said: Basically this ^ They're running that old marrone offense too much. Run-Run-Pass-Punt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Bandito said: The world is all about who you know. Don't hate the player, hate the game In the past I’ve read one of the biggest indicators of success, is who you know. In my personal experience I’ve hired someone I’ve worked with before vs someone I didn’t, simply because I knew what I was getting and I was happy to have it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: They're running that old marrone offense too much. Run-Run-Pass-Punt That offense drove me insane. It was so predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Tanoros said: In the past I’ve read one of the biggest indicators of success, is who you know. In my personal experience I’ve hired someone I’ve worked with before vs someone I didn’t, simply because I knew what I was getting and I was happy to have it. Simple as that. Connections and networking ; it’s how the world works. That’s fine , but in the case of Hackett he’s just not very good at what he does. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: That may be the case but the skill set needed to be a good head coach is far different than that of a coordinator, which is where many teams fail...Those type of skills are NOT easily obtained if a person doesn't have them...leadership, communication, CEO mentality, etc... a good portion of your success as a head coach is not directly related to football per se...much more is related to managing and leadership on a week to week basis. Correct, but all you have to base that on is your interview with the coach and what people he has worked with are saying about him. With how bad the Broncos have been at making that decision its not surprising they chose wrong again. My point is, Hackett isn't purely a product of nepotism. It has helped, but overall I wouldnt say the guy has failed at the opportunities he has been given. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: That may be the case but the skill set needed to be a good head coach is far different than that of a coordinator, which is where many teams fail...Those type of skills are NOT easily obtained if a person doesn't have them...leadership, communication, CEO mentality, etc... a good portion of your success as a head coach is not directly related to football per se...much more is related to managing and leadership on a week to week basis. This is a common failure for any industry though. It’s so common to see people hired into a leadership role because of their knowledge/skill doing X job very well. However, like you mention, leading a group of people is very different from actually doing the work. This failure in hiring the right person (people leader) definitely isn’t exclusive to the NFL. I’ve seen it all the time in my career (construction). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: This dude could get fired after this week if he loses to the Jags. The new ownership group didn't hire him. He looks like he is WAY over his head and has no idea how to right the ship. Some people don't have the proper skills to be a HC. He clearly doesn't. Sometimes it takes a while to figure out if a coach actually does have it, but you can usually tell right away when a coach doesn't. And he doesn't. Typically it's someone who's a great coordinator who just can't Hackett as a HC... he shouldn't even be in the league as a coordinator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Only Bills fans knew he would flop. He was a legitimate candidate that Broncos fans were excited about. Unfortunately, that's just how it goes. Teams latch on to the first guy they find who has a little success (regardless of the reason) and can string together a proper sentence in an interview. Edited October 25, 2022 by MJS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, MJS said: Only Bills fans knew he would flop. He was a legitimate candidate that Broncos fans were excited about. Unfortunately, that's just how it goes. Teams latch on to the first guy they find who has a little success (regardless of the reason) and can string together a proper sentence in an interview. Especially if they on offense recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: They're running that old marrone offense too much. Run-Run-Pass-Punt I think you are selling it short. I recall plenty of Pass (incomplete)-Run-Pass-Punt sequences as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: So the rebuttal to an argument about NFL teams hiring the same type of guys is to point to an example of 8 white dudes who were hired as HC's? And 5 of the 8 came from the Sean McVay "inner-circle" of frat boys. 🤣 Edited October 25, 2022 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Hackett is the Zack Moss of head coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 The reason why Hackett specifically is looked fondly upon by the NFL Community is because his father was looked fondly upon by the NFL Community. His father coached in the NFL for like 20 years and made all kinds of connections for junior. The tea leaves should have been on the wall cause Paul Hackett was a severely overrated coach as well in his day but the NEPOTISM of it all played a huge factor is Nathaniel Hackett being where he is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Great question! He was hired to be the Packers OC and yet he didn't call the offensive plays at all. He is a great guy who the players really like and I'd like to think he helped with the game planning... but who knows? I was kinda shocked when I read he was hired as the Broncos HC. I can only think a big reason was that he would be there when GB traded Rodgers to Denver...which never happened. Instead they gave up the farm for Wilson. The guy sucks so bad at setting up an offense he is making Russell Wilson look like a bum. I highly doubt he lasts the season as HC. The 2-5 Denver Broncos with a top 5 defense is going to waste because the offense stinks so badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 hours ago, eball said: Seriously. The ONLY answer is nepotism and the old white boy network. He has done literally nothing in his NFL coaching career to suggest he was prepared or competent to be an NFL head coach, and that is being displayed for all to see. S-h-i-t like this is why Brian Flores' lawsuit is a legitimate concern for the NFL. Disgusting. See Kyle Shanahan, Rex/Rob Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 He and Dave Wannestedt would make a great pair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: They're running that old marrone offense too much. Run-Run-Pass-Punt I was at the Thursday night game in Miami. Incredible atmosphere, Bills still had season despite the Bryce Brown KC loss, and a great defense... I was never more enraged after a game in my life. Swearing in a four hour car ride back to Ft Myers at my aunt's house about how bad and pathetic the offense and coaching was and why can't we have an offense that actually attacks. Thank you Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, stevewin said: I always thought it was strange - when he was in Buffalo the only positive thing I ever heard about him was his high 'energy'. Then he went to Jax, and they talked about his high energy. Then GB and how Rogers liked him and his energy. I don't think I've ever heard anything positive about his actual knowledge and, you know, actual coaching ability It's high energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) I remember when he was here! It was the worst! Hasn’t changed at all. Edited October 25, 2022 by Dr. Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim58 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 hours ago, B-Large said: The Broncos are where the Bills were 10-12 years ago…. Chest deep in folly, and making dumb decisions. They’re almost mirror image of the Bills with 15 straight losses to a division opponent, since I doubt they beat the Chiefs any time soon. The Broncos needed stability, they should have called Gary Kubiak and begged him to come back. 3 first time head coaches with 2 on the payroll for a few more years. I knew when the Hackett didn’t play the starters all preseason with a brand new QB he was still incompetent. Was Kubiak really that good of a coach? He was obviously better than Hack, but he was an offensive coach and his offenses were bottom half. He never really did much in Houston either. It seems to me that the reason you won that Super Bowl was because of Wade Phillip's defense, which was stellar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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