Big Turk Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I always thought Jackson was pretty good. He struggled a lot against Diggs, but to call the system in NE "CB Friendly" isn't really true. He also had 25 INTs in 4 seasons, as a UDFA. He started playing in the slot, moved outside, replaced Gilmore. To chase the money after a 3yr UDFA contract, and a 4th year as an RFA? Don't blame him in the slightest. Good for him. NE does have a DB friendly system, much like the Bills do. They have the ability to find and coach up DB's to play very solidly in their system. JC Jackson was a UFA, much like Levi Wallace. However, those players usually don't replicate their success they had when with those teams because they are expected to do more which they don't have the talent to do most times. Same thing with Malcolm Butler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I see it a Jackson wasn’t as great as he was made out to be in New England. But I don’t think he’s as bad as he played this year for LA. I don’t think he was ever fully healthy for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: Now JC Jackson won’t get burned by Diggs in the playoffs if they win as the 7 seed and play buffalo Aw, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Maybe not when he is allowing a QB rating of 112 on passes thrown at him...that's not even replacement level. Yeah, he was not having a good season. At the end of the day though, this team has missed Bosa. They don't get enough pressure, and even after spending a ton in FA (and draft picks) they still can't stop the run. Murray and Tillery were 1st rounders and neither has been very good. Tranquill was a later pick but he doesn't impress me. Van Noy isn't good anymore. Then you have the higher priced guys like Jackson, Joseph, Johnson added. And they literally aren't any better at stopping the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: NE does have a DB friendly system, much like the Bills do. They have the ability to find and coach up DB's to play very solidly in their system. JC Jackson was a UFA, much like Levi Wallace. However, those players usually don't replicate their success they had when with those teams because they are expected to do more which they don't have the talent to do most times. Same thing with Malcolm Butler. Comparing him to Levi Wallace is insane. Wallace was trash in man coverage and has 7 career INTs and 34 PDs in 55 starts. Jackson had 25 INTs and 55 PDs. Malcolm butler played 3 seasons in Tenn, and I wouldn't say he was inherently bad. His numbers were never really that impressive in NE either - he was made famous by a play he made in the super bowl. I'd say Logan Ryan but Tennessee changed his position when they brought him in so... there's somewhat of a tough learning curve there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Rigotz said: Um… is it necessary to dance on his grave? No, but considering where he came from, it's fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Comparing him to Levi Wallace is insane. Wallace was trash in man coverage and has 7 career INTs and 34 PDs in 55 starts. Jackson had 25 INTs and 55 PDs. Malcolm butler played 3 seasons in Tenn, and I wouldn't say he was inherently bad. His numbers were never really that impressive in NE either - he was made famous by a play he made in the super bowl. I'd say Logan Ryan but Tennessee changed his position when they brought him in so... there's somewhat of a tough learning curve there. Not comparing him directly to Wallace, just saying how both teams find and develop quality players that are UDFA's. Jackson had a lot of picks, but the Bills still had the better pass D...even with Wallace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 This is a terrible injury for a CB. His days at CB may be done. He got quite a bit of gtd $$$ and may possibly become the highest paid S in the league after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Irv said: The problems all started with Sid Gillman. Sid Gillman was a genius. It was always so much fun watching his offenses play. They were fresh, innovative and exciting. He also had Lance Alworth who made that long game work. Every so often a coach comes along that really revolutionizes the game. Sid was one of those few. He was a great coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Jackson may be another prime example of a patriots player who might be more the product of the system vs individual talent. Bigger issue going forward is that's a brutal injury for a DB to recover from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Jackson may be another prime example of a patriots player who might be more the product of the system vs individual talent. Bigger issue going forward is that's a brutal injury for a DB to recover from. I always thought he was a good man corner. For whatever reason he couldn't hang with Diggs, few really can. Diggs struggled a ton with ward at KC (he's pretty grabby). Yeah, long road ahead, but he got a big guarantee so at least it didn't happen on his rookie deal or RFA tender last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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