Beck Water Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Someone pass a note along to Flores (through his lawyer?) that the Dolphins don't attack outside the numbers except with screens and quick hitters. Everything goes 5-15 yards over the middle. Huh. That what these say? https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/tua-tagovailoa/TAG620344/season Quote
Ralonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: He gets a lot of wide open looks. There’s a very small part of the field that he is accurate in. That's a good point. Tua can mostly hit college-open guys within a 20 yard radius. Or, put it in range of a guy open by 5 yards downfield. He doesn't try against tight coverage because he doesn't have that club in his bag. A man's got to know his limitations. 1 2 Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Isn't that the case with pretty much every starting QB? Not always. It is when you have an established franchise QB, but a lot of people here basically argued that he's a no more than a young version of Teddy Bridgewater. So that's the comparison here. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: He already beat the Bills. He's a proven winner his whole career. With that said, the Bills are the superior team but don't under estimate the Tua factor. He beat the Bills practice squad and still only put up 185 yards + a TD. Should’ve had a pick 6. Yes, he won. Tua is an excellent game manager with the ability to pull a great game out of his *** once in a blue. He’ll never be able to consistently put a team on his back the way guys like Allen or Mahomes do. He just has too many physical limitations. He’s a glorified Kirk Cousins and even that’s being generous. 3 2 Quote
newcam2012 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Apparently newcam has taken that position Tua was knocked silly. Came back in the game and lead his team to victory against the daunted Bills. I bet he doesn't even remember playing the 2nd half. He was on auto pilot and made a great deep pass to beat the Bills. Got to give him some credit. Sure the Bills had so many injuries and the heat. I get that but the fact remains a wobbled and concussed Tua willed his team to a win. It was a classic David vs Goliath. Tua isn't great or elite. However, he can be a very effective system passer and his team believes in him. That goes a long way in getting wins. 1 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I’ll believe that when the fat lady warbles. He’s got too long of a history turning trash into treasure. I don’t want to see that, mind The fat lady is dead, buried, and already decomposing. Quote
Ralonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Huh. That what these say? https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/tua-tagovailoa/TAG620344/season That Baltimore can't play defense. 1 1 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wppete said: Pickett won’t last in the NFL. He’s a backup at best. Mitch should be playing still. Steelers have some talent and Watt will come back this season. have a shot at wild card Edited October 24, 2022 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 1 Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, ChronicAndKnuckles said: He’ll never be able to consistently put a team on his back the way guys like Allen or Mahomes do Well, there's quite a bit of distance between Allen/Mahomes and the rest of the league. I don't think anyone expects him to hit that level. Ryan Tannehill? Derek Carr? I think right now Miami would be happy with that. 2 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: He's just not dedicated to his craft. Doesn't put in the work. Anti-process. I like the idea of the soft rush in the rematch, get in his throwing lanes and don't let him see, bat balls, force him to elevate the ball to get passes over Groot and the other trees like J Phillips and Daquon. Should be fun fun fun for the zone DBs. Can you really blame Claypool though? With QBs throwing to him like a geriatric Roethlisburger, Trubisky, or Pickett? It’s frustrating to WATCH. I can only imagine how annoying it is for him. Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Huh. That what these say? https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/tua-tagovailoa/TAG620344/season It says that he doesnt attack outside the middle of the field accept for screens, quick hitters, and a few moonballs that take 10 minutes to get there. Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Not always. It is when you have an established franchise QB, but a lot of people here basically argued that he's a no more than a young version of Teddy Bridgewater. So that's the comparison here. I mean, I'm sure that guys like Garrapollo, Fields, Davis Mills & Brissett are better than their backups, but it doesn't make them good QBs. Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Have the Steelers thrown a pass on first down? Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Tua was knocked silly. Came back in the game and lead his team to victory against the daunted Bills. I bet he doesn't even remember playing the 2nd half. He was on auto pilot and made a great deep pass to beat the Bills. Got to give him some credit. Sure the Bills had so many injuries and the heat. I get that but the fact remains a wobbled and concussed Tua willed his team to a win. It was a classic David vs Goliath. Tua isn't great or elite. However, he can be a very effective system passer and his team believes in him. That goes a long way in getting wins. He didn't beat us. WE beat us. 2 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: Have the Steelers thrown a pass on first down? Or past 5 yards. Pickett is terrible so far Quote
HappyDays Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 What a boring offense. Can't you at least try? Go down swinging or something. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: That Baltimore can't play defense. They didn’t vs Mia in the 4th Q, that’s true. Distribution and depth of passes Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, PetermansRedemption said: Or past 5 yards. Pickett is terrible so far Yes it was intercepted 😭 Quote
TheCockSportif Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: What a boring offense. Can't you at least try? Go down swinging or something. I don't think that you go down swinging with this QB. Quote
AlfaBill Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Tua was knocked silly. Came back in the game and lead his team to victory against the daunted Bills. I bet he doesn't even remember playing the 2nd half. He was on auto pilot and made a great deep pass to beat the Bills. Got to give him some credit. Sure the Bills had so many injuries and the heat. I get that but the fact remains a wobbled and concussed Tua willed his team to a win. It was a classic David vs Goliath. Tua isn't great or elite. However, he can be a very effective system passer and his team believes in him. That goes a long way in getting wins. Maybe you had a concussion. It’s a reasonable explanation for you takes. Quote
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