st pete gogolak Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 The reason I like Daryl Williams is that he ended the seemingly never-ending nightmare of Jordan Mills being our starting RT. Granted he was not great last year and fully expected him to be a cap casualty but I'm surprised he is still on the market. For the right price, I think he would be a nice fit as backup guard/tackle, especially with Spencer Brown missing some time. What's the deal? Is he out of shape? No longer interested in playing football? There's got to be a reason he is unsigned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 he retired and started an OLine training school? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I thought he retired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Legit question. It was a bit mysterious that he had an excellent 2020 season at tackle, to the point the team gave him a 3 year contract. Then he played poorly at tackle in 2021 but still salvaged the season by playing deccently at guard. I have two theories... the Bills were unhappy with his physical condition after he signed the new contract and/or Aaron Kromer doesn't view him as a system fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Sierra Foothills said: Legit question. It was a bit mysterious that he had an excellent 2020 season at tackle, to the point the team gave him a 3 year contract. Then he played poorly at tackle in 2021 but still salvaged the season by playing deccently at guard. I have two theories... the Bills were unhappy with his physical condition after he signed the new contract and/or Aaron Kromer doesn't view him as a system fit. Little bit of both. Little bit of him probably being sick of being injured and already having decent money. It all adds up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Little bit of both. Little bit of him probably being sick of being injured and already having decent money. It all adds up. Nope, he retired and started an OLine training school. I wasn't joking when I posted it, that's the real answer. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I wondered this too, not the best season but I would have thought someone would have grabbed him. He evidently has retired. https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/bills-tackle-daryl-williams-retires/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: The reason I like Daryl Williams is that he ended the seemingly never-ending nightmare of Jordan Mills being our starting RT. Granted he was not great last year and fully expected him to be a cap casualty but I'm surprised he is still on the market. For the right price, I think he would be a nice fit as backup guard/tackle, especially with Spencer Brown missing some time. What's the deal? Is he out of shape? No longer interested in playing football? There's got to be a reason he is unsigned. I suspect he's just not that into football. There are lots and lots of players who just do it for the money and once they reach an earnings threshold they can't wait to quit. The Bills lucked out because an injury in Carolina after an All-Pro season caused him to miss an earlier payday so they got his high level athletic talent on the cheap in 2020. I thought it was a little bizarre that he signed so quickly and for less money than he could have gotten on the open market.............and then watching him clearly arrive and perform like he had senioritis made me feel like maybe he just had a retirement number in mind when he signed that deal and then returned a compromised performance and snuck out the back door with his bag. I know this much...........the 2021 version of Williams at RG and Bates at LG would have been a lot better than what we've seen out there...........though Saffold played better than I expected in KC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Big Turk said: he retired and started an OLine training school? But why hasn’t Beane signed him? Sleeping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: The reason I like Daryl Williams is that he ended the seemingly never-ending nightmare of Jordan Mills being our starting RT. Granted he was not great last year and fully expected him to be a cap casualty but I'm surprised he is still on the market. For the right price, I think he would be a nice fit as backup guard/tackle, especially with Spencer Brown missing some time. What's the deal? Is he out of shape? No longer interested in playing football? There's got to be a reason he is unsigned. I think his knee is an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Nope, he retired and started an OLine training school. I wasn't joking when I posted it, that's the real answer. You made that ***** up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Legit question. It was a bit mysterious that he had an excellent 2020 season at tackle, to the point the team gave him a 3 year contract. Then he played poorly at tackle in 2021 but still salvaged the season by playing deccently at guard. I have two theories... the Bills were unhappy with his physical condition after he signed the new contract and/or Aaron Kromer doesn't view him as a system fit. I thought he was not great at guard last year. Conversely I am very happy with pass pro to this point. Bills have the lowest pressure rate in the NFL (link below). Just awesome. I got grief before the season for saying the OL would be much better. That poster then tried to say that Saffold was at best a wash for Williams. Pretty happy with how that has turned out. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/advanced.htm Edited October 21, 2022 by YattaOkasan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Doubt he is a good fit for Kromer's pin and pull system which requires pretty athletic O-lineman. Josh's mobility requires that the O-line needs to be able to move as well. Relative Athletic Score for the Bills regular Olinemen are all in the high 8's and 9's, Williams is a 2.5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: I thought he was not great at guard last year. Conversely I am very happy with pass pro to this point. Bills have the lowest pressure rate in the NFL (link below). Just awesome. I got grief before the season for saying the OL would be much better. That poster then tried to say that Saffold was at best a wash for Williams. Pretty happy with how that has turned out. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/advanced.htm Saffold has been pretty terrible this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 53 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Nope, he retired and started an OLine training school. I wasn't joking when I posted it, that's the real answer. I searched online. There is absolutely zero reference to any of this anywhere. If even the Internet can’t tell me that lie, then you can’t either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Nope, he retired and started an OLine training school. I wasn't joking when I posted it, that's the real answer. Right. I'm saying that's why he chose to retire and start the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: I thought he was not great at guard last year. Conversely I am very happy with pass pro to this point. Bills have the lowest pressure rate in the NFL (link below). Just awesome. I got grief before the season for saying the OL would be much better. That poster then tried to say that Saffold was at best a wash for Williams. Pretty happy with how that has turned out. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/advanced.htm It's weird...the Bills pass pro has been great in terms of Allen having a clean pocket for the most part but the Bills are pretty much dead average for pass blocking win rate/pass blocking grades 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: I searched online. There is absolutely zero reference to any of this anywhere. If even the Internet can’t tell me that lie, then you can’t either. Hahaha...it was in one of the articles about him retiring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Saffold has been pretty terrible this season. So terrible that we have the lowest pressure rate? OL is consistently something thats described as only as strong as your weakest link. Unless you disagree with that hes been fine. I think your specific concerns for him coming into the season were injuries? I think you have to agree those have not been realized. From my perspective he hasnt been as good in the run game as I would have expected, but I think hes been much better than expected in the pass game. Edited October 21, 2022 by YattaOkasan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, YattaOkasan said: So terrible that we have the lowest pressure rate? OL is consistently something thats described as only as strong as your weakest link. Unless you disagree with that hes been fine. I think your specific concerns for him coming into the season were injuries? I think you have to agree those have not been realized. From my perspective he hasnt been as good in the run game as I would have expected, but I think hes been much better than expected in the pass game. It's true that he has not been sidelined with injury and that was a concern with him replacing Williams who missed no snaps in 19 games in 2022. But Saffold has been individually awful.........one of the worst graded starters in the league. He seemed to take a modest step forward against KC IMO but let's remember that the standard for the Bills OL isn't the horrible Cody Ford infested OL of last season..........it's the one that finished the season last year playing excellent all around with Bates in the lineup and Williams as starters. This Bills OL is getting good pass pro numbers but horrendous run block numbers. Realistically they are somewhere in between both of those, IMO. Allen has taken his game to another level with regard to pocket awareness and is getting the ball out quicker to make the pass pro seem better.........while until last game..........they have played a style of offense that makes their OL look much worse at run blocking than they really are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Allen has taken his game to another level with regard to pocket awareness and is getting the ball out quicker to make the pass pro seem better.........while until last game..........they have played a style of offense that makes their OL look much worse at run blocking than they really are. I think you're onto something. I've noticed Josh makes his pass protection look better than it is. Not only is he getting the ball out more quickly than ever before, he also moves in ways that strengthen the pocket instead of weakening it like many unaware quarterbacks do. Josh rarely moves into a sack and he has that "up and down the ladder" move which seems to help his blockers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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