Donuts and Doritos Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What a strange thought process. OBJ tore his ACL in October 2020. 16 months later tore his ACL again. But the never healthy guy is CMC? CMC has had some recent injuries but they’re all easy to come back from. OBJ will have to impact right away after ACL. McCaffrey played 3 games in 2020 & 7 in 2021. (See below). & was already banged up earlier this season. (See below). As I pointed out, Carolina wants Multiple First round picks for him. (See below). By contrast, while O'Dell only played 7 games in 2029, he played 14 games last year. (See below). Yes he's coming back from the ACL. But he wouldn't cost us any draft picks to aquire. In addition, as I eluded to, if he joined KC that could be a real problem in a rematch when these teams are playing each other so close, he could be that little bit to put them over the top. If we get him they can't, we're no worse off & they're no better. The post was commenting on injury history, cost/benefit & the chess move w/ the chiefs. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCaCh01.htm https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34691016/carolina-panthers-rb-christian-mccaffrey-status-vs-arizona-cardinals-question https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/18/carolina-panthers-multipe-first-round-picks-christian-mccaffrey/ https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeckOd00.htm Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: McCaffrey played 3 games in 2020 & 7 in 2021. (See below). & was already banged up earlier this season. (See below). As I pointed out, Carolina wants Multiple First round picks for him. (See below). By contrast, while O'Dell only played 7 games in 2029, he played 14 games last year. (See below). Yes he's coming back from the ACL. But he wouldn't cost us any draft picks to aquire. In addition, as I eluded to, if he joined KC that could be a real problem in a rematch when these teams are playing each other so close, he could be that little bit to put them over the top. If we get him they can't, we're no worse off & they're no better. The post was commenting on injury history, cost/benefit & the chess move w/ the chiefs. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCaCh01.htm https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34691016/carolina-panthers-rb-christian-mccaffrey-status-vs-arizona-cardinals-question https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/18/carolina-panthers-multipe-first-round-picks-christian-mccaffrey/ https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BeckOd00.htm I know his history. He’s banged up this year? Who’s not banged up? It’s football. We just can’t list injuries as a concern for McCaffery and not OBJ. Doesn’t make any sense. One guy can contribute now, the other we have no idea. Carolina isn’t going to get what they want: Edited October 20, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I know his history. He’s banged up this year? Who’s not banged up? It’s football. We just can’t list injuries as a concern for McCaffery and not OBJ. Doesn’t make any sense. One guy can contribute now, the other we have no idea. Carolina isn’t going to get what they want: I get what you're saying. Good point. My pt: Not giving up 1st round pick for a guy who hasn't played a full season in 2 years. In reality I doubt the Bills are paying what it would cost to get either of them IMO. But we shall see. Go Bills! Edited October 20, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos Quote
mjt328 Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 I'm going with Odell Beckham Jr. Christian McCaffrey would definitely improve our backfield and be an upgrade over Devin Singletary/James Cook. He would also provide a new aspect to our offense, giving us a huge threat coming out of the backfield. It's one thing we currently don't have. But OBJ gives us something better. Security. Our offense is already #2 in points per game and #1 in yardage. We barely punt already. We don't really need a boost on that side of the ball, as much as we need a backup in case of emergency. Our worst games passing happened with Gabe Davis hobbled and Jake Kumerow injured. If something happened to Davis again or Stefon Diggs, this offense would certainly take a huge dip. Along with Kumerow, we also have Jameson Crowder done for the season. Isaiah McKenzie has been very mistake-prone. And the coaching staff doesn't seem thrilled with putting a rookie Khalil Shakir into the starting lineup. So the place is already there for OBJ to slide into the lineup. Quote
NORWOODS FOOT Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 I voted 'neither'. I don't think OBJ will be well enough to contribute much this year (could be wrong). I don't think McCaffrey will be worth the trade cost as a one year rental or that the Bills will want to keep his big salary on the roster. From a purely football perspective I guess I would take McCaffrey. But realistically, I would probably pass on both this year. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Neither. Both old, injury prone and not worth the investment Since when is 26 old? I'm leaning more toward CMC, but would be happy with either Quote
Jay_Fixit Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 21 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What a strange thought process. OBJ tore his ACL in October 2020. 16 months later tore his ACL again. But the never healthy guy is CMC? CMC has had some recent injuries but they’re all easy to come back from. OBJ will have to impact right away after ACL. Beckham misses more games per season than McCaffrey. I laugh when injuries are brought into this argument. Quote
Watkins90 Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 We don't need OBJ, but I would pay him to not pay. Keeping him away from the Chiefs is way bigger than anything he could actually do for us. Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 21, 2022 Author Posted October 21, 2022 Wow, that was a lot to give up for CMC for 1 year. They must be planning on signing him for at least 2 years, if not more. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 OL, please. Beckham's more affordable, so if I had to go with either one, I'd go with him, but I'd rather have OL help. 1 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: OL, please. Beckham's more affordable, so if I had to go with either one, I'd go with him, but I'd rather have OL help. No lie, a quality guard is badly needed on this team. Quote
Big Turk Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 OBJ because there is no trading of assets to obtain him. Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 21, 2022 Author Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: No lie, a quality guard is badly needed on this team. I heard Cody Ford might be available. 1 Quote
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