Captain Hindsight Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, H2o said: Actually, it will be #31 because the Dolphins had a first taken away. For trying To get a less accurate Tua Quote
Beast Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 Safety and linebacker can’t be dismissed as potential high picks. Quote
947 Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 Our 1st pick absolutely has to be IOL, and a pick in the 30s is a prime spot for that. We have needs at both OG spots, and 2023 could be Morse's last year. I doubt we take OL in each of the first 3 rounds, but I bet we take 2 in the first 4 rounds. I think we're set at CB & DL for a change, unless we lose Oliver or Dane. 2 Quote
SCBills Posted October 19, 2022 Posted October 19, 2022 Saw one that had us going: Gervon Dexter DT RD1 Safety from Kansas in RD2 Garrett Williams, CB from Cuse in Rd3 IOL in RD4 and RD5 I honestly don't hate it. Having a dominant DL seems critical to winning Championships. If they want to draft RD1 DL every year, I'd be ok with that. We also have Jordan Phillips as a FA after the year and I'm not totally sure we are definitely going to extend Ed Oliver beyond next year if he doesn't figure out how to be a noticeable difference maker. 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted October 19, 2022 Author Posted October 19, 2022 2 hours ago, 947 said: Our 1st pick absolutely has to be IOL, and a pick in the 30s is a prime spot for that. We have needs at both OG spots, and 2023 could be Morse's last year. I doubt we take OL in each of the first 3 rounds, but I bet we take 2 in the first 4 rounds. I think we're set at CB & DL for a change, unless we lose Oliver or Dane. Oline has been neglected for years. Ford was a bust. Allen has masked all the inefficiencies on the line by being a magician. But we can’t keep relying on that, we have to protect him at all costs. 1 1 Quote
djp14150 Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 In terms of draft position priority it would be 1. LB — assuming Edmonds doesn’t re-sign. 2. Interior OL Quote
Airseven Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 20 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: 1. Jarrett Patterson G/C I would put him at Center (has flexibility and has played as a guard and center) 2. Steve Avila G/C I would put him at LG ( has flexibility and has played as a guard and center) 3. O’Cyrus Torrence G I would put him at RG 4. Garrett Williams CB 5. Ronnie Hickman S 5. Tyler Harrell WR 6. Bryce Baringer P 7. Darius Muasau LB Never too soon to talk draft! 👍👍 So much depends on what they decide to do with Edmunds. No chance Bernard steps in as an effective starter next season (he remains a truly bizarre pick). For now, I’ll go: 1 - OL/S 2 - S/OL 3 - OL 4 - DT 5- LB/TE 5 - TE/LB 6 - RB 7 - 🤷♂️ 1 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 Hard to determine needs pre-FA RB - Moss and Cook are it for 2023. We've spent multiple 3rds and 2nds on the position and its still not a strength. I could see singletary coming back - There are a LOT of free agent running backs next year and he might not get much in the way of big offers. WR - same depth chart we have now, gabe davis 1 year from testing free agency. TE - Could see a late round flier here, but i expect a low priced vet. OL - Lots to do here. We need a starting guard (possibly 2, or at least another player to push bates), and i'd honestly consider using a 1st on a tackle. Brown has come along a bit but he should in no way be given a starting spot. I expect the same kind of free agent strategy here, but i'd also like to see them bring in a few younger players with higher picks. DL - Phillips and Lawson are UFAs. I could see both being brought back. LB - I think Bernard/Spector take the matakevich spot. Edmunds is a question mark - do they think bernard or dodson can take the spot? remains to be seen. DBs - Poyer is the main question mark. Hyde is under contract but also not a certainty. Could be a day 2 or even day 1 target. White, Elam, Jackson, Benford is probably one too many If i had to pick i'd say (obviously value dependent) 1st round - Tackle 2nd round - Safety 3rd round - Guard 4th round - Linebacker 5th round - Guard 6th round - Safety/Cornerback Quote
NewEra Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 7 hours ago, 947 said: Our 1st pick absolutely has to be IOL, and a pick in the 30s is a prime spot for that. We have needs at both OG spots, and 2023 could be Morse's last year. I doubt we take OL in each of the first 3 rounds, but I bet we take 2 in the first 4 rounds. I think we're set at CB & DL for a change, unless we lose Oliver or Dane. BPA at a premium position. Preferably Wr, OT or DE. 2 minutes ago, Airseven said: Never too soon to talk draft! 👍👍 So much depends on what they decide to do with Edmunds. No chance Bernard steps in as an effective starter next season (he remains a truly bizarre pick). For now, I’ll go: 1 - OL/S 2 - S/OL 3 - OL 4 - DT 5- LB/TE 5 - TE/LB 6 - RB 7 - 🤷♂️ This is exactly what we shouldn’t do. Worst list I’ve seen. Ever 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 I follow mock drafts year around. I've mostly seen interior offensive linemen and safeties mocked to the Bills late in the first round. I've also seen a stray WR or running back mocked to them as well, but that's pretty rare. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: BPA at a premium position. Preferably Wr, OT or DE. This is exactly what we shouldn’t do. Worst list I’ve seen. Ever Hopefully we take Oline, Oline, and more Oline. I want to impose our will in all phases. I want to keep Allen in the pocket with a ton of time. I want Allen healthy for years to come. Quote
NewEra Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Hopefully we take Oline, Oline, and more Oline. I want to impose our will in all phases. I want to keep Allen in the pocket with a ton of time. I want Allen healthy for years to come. We can do that without drafting OL, OL and more OL 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, NewEra said: We can do that without drafting OL, OL and more OL Not with Davis money, Poyer/Edmunds money and a handful of others coming up. I have a feeling Beane is going to hit the draft hard on Oline this year to keep a cohesive cheap unit around for a few years. Quote
NewEra Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Not with Davis money, Poyer/Edmunds money and a handful of others coming up. I have a feeling Beane is going to hit the draft hard on Oline this year to keep a cohesive cheap unit around for a few years. We don’t need 3 new starters in order to have a good OL. Drafting OL in round 1-2-3 would be a mistake. Luckily- Beane knows this. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 15 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: It starts in the trenches. I mean......it USED to start in the trenches. Now it undeniably starts at QB...........and if you can put a very good OL around him that's great because there basically aren't any..........and as most NFL OL coaches will tell you that is because the vast majority of young offensive lineman are a big detriment to the team until their 3rd or 4th season under the current system. The transition for most is very difficult. Just throwing picks at it doesn't make it fixed.......see Ford, Cody. It's one thing to select a very athletic LT prospect early.........that's a premium/island position that draws the kind of athletes that otherwise play the DL. But to be an early round interior lineman you need to be a freak of nature to justify it. 2 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted October 20, 2022 Author Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, NewEra said: We don’t need 3 new starters in order to have a good OL. Drafting OL in round 1-2-3 would be a mistake. Luckily- Beane knows this. We are definitely drafting a center. Morse cap hit is 11 million but only a dead cap hit of 2.5 million in 2024. Going to have to groom a cheap replacement. We are likely taking a guard, as patch work players like Saffold are not the answer to good line play. I would not be shocked at all to see a C and OG taken within the first 3 picks. 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: I mean......it USED to start in the trenches. Now it undeniably starts at QB...........and if you can put a very good OL around him that's great because there basically aren't any..........and as most NFL OL coaches will tell you that is because the vast majority of young offensive lineman are a big detriment to the team until their 3rd or 4th season under the current system. The transition for most is very difficult. Just throwing picks at it doesn't make it fixed.......see Ford, Cody. It's one thing to select a very athletic LT prospect early.........that's a premium/island position that draws the kind of athletes that otherwise play the DL. But to be an early round interior lineman you need to be a freak of nature to justify it. We are going to have no choice but to draft a bunch of linemen. That is if we expect to pay Davis, Edmunds/Poyer. There won’t be enough money to go around to pay for decent guards through FA. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: We are definitely drafting a center. Morse cap hit is 11 million but only a dead cap hit of 2.5 million in 2024. Going to have to groom a cheap replacement. We are likely taking a guard, as patch work players like Saffold are not the answer to good line play. I would not be shocked at all to see a C and OG taken within the first 3 picks. We are going to have no choice but to draft a bunch of linemen. That is if we expect to pay Davis, Edmunds/Poyer. There won’t be enough money to go around to pay for decent guards through FA. You also promised us that Breece Hall was going to be our1st rd pickI wouldn’t be shocked to see us draft a WR and a pass rusher with our first 2 picks. if we draft 1 OL in the first 2 rounds, I’ll be happy. I just think you’re going overboard with OL, OL then OL. That would lead to a bare cupboard at more expensive positions in a couple years. Our Championship window will likely never be greater than with Von Miller playing at an elite level. Putting 2-3 rookies starting in front of 17 in 2023 would be asinine imo. Just because an OL is drafted between pick 30 and 90 doesn’t mean they’ll step in and play well. They could be Cody ford. Or Spencer brown. Or Tommy Doyle (round 4). 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: We are definitely drafting a center. Morse cap hit is 11 million but only a dead cap hit of 2.5 million in 2024. Going to have to groom a cheap replacement. We are likely taking a guard, as patch work players like Saffold are not the answer to good line play. I would not be shocked at all to see a C and OG taken within the first 3 picks. We are going to have no choice but to draft a bunch of linemen. That is if we expect to pay Davis, Edmunds/Poyer. There won’t be enough money to go around to pay for decent guards through FA. They will have a choice. The key is keeping premium positions stocked.........that's where the cap dollars vanish quickly..........the most likely place to find premium position talent is the early rounds. 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 19 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: I’d be ok with Bijan. I’d much prefer to sure up the o line this year though. There are some very good players this year. We need a major center and guard talent infusion. All 3 guards I listed are very good. It’s a bye week. I’m always looking at how we can improve our team. The draft is one way to do that. This is usually when draft talk begins to heat up. I find it pretty relevant discussion seeming how badly we need guards and a new center. OK I’ll bite explain where we need a new center We are going to either need to look to linebacker or safety with that first pic the problem that we’re going to start running into us we’re not gonna be able to sign all of our premium players and they’re going to hit free agency they’re gonna have to make a decision on Edmunds Thankfully for us a couple of things With the hits on both of Elam N Binford and with white returning we won’t have to use high picks on secondary Bean knows how to draft He’s second for a third round pick or both could be used on offense of line Quote
SoCal Deek Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 While not what anyone wanted to see happen, the season ending injury to Hyde is providing a season experience for current replacements. So far, the defense is holding up just fine. On the defensive side of the ball Edmunds future is the key to the draft. Quote
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