Ken Dorsey is really really good

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Dorsey’s Definitely was more And you just quoted me back in one second reread my edited post

 

And I’ve seen it at every level

 

I have too. I have not only seen it I have done it. But the difference was Dorsey lost control. I don't think Belichick ever loses that control. He gets angry, he throws stuff... but that was a total loss of control from Dorsey. 

 

 

[Southern_Bills]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Errrr....if Dorsey's goal is to be hired as a HC, it's the opinion of the actual owners of the teams, not their employees (players) that are the question.

 

I honestly don't think a single owner would downgrade Dorsey for what he did in that booth.

 

They want to know he can win first and foremost. He can represent a team well in press conferences etc just fine.

 

Long list of coaches who have outbursts when it's a close game with non desirable outcomes, and they kept jobs easily. 

 

The whole outburst thing is an extreme non factor in the world of NFL coaching.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have too. I have not only seen it I have done it. But the difference was Dorsey lost control. I don't think Belichick ever loses that control. He gets angry, he throws stuff... but that was a total loss of control from Dorsey. 

 

 

Yea But like with most things in life timing is important

 

sure he lost control … But he could always spinet as loving his players and having passion for the game

 

It was not a meltdown call or an official or a bills player… It was over the outcome

 

Now The players will rally around him because they do respect it … but he won’t be doing it again I assume 

 

[Chicken Boo]

On 10/17/2022 at 9:50 PM, Buffalo716 said:

He has a long way to go before he’s a HC

 

his resume is small and he was fired as a QB coach in 18

 

he has josh Allen

 

and I do think he’s been really good but it’s wayyyy too quick to say he’s gonna be a HC soon

 

The way this league is, by the end of next season his name will be amongst the hot candidates to become a HC.  

[Bronxbomber21]

On 10/17/2022 at 10:46 PM, Buffalo03 said:

I actually have an issue with some of his playcalling. I think he runs on 2nd and long too much forcing us to be in too many 3rd down situations. And the sequence of plays on that game winning drive where he ran Singletary on 2nd and 1 and got stuffed and then pitched it back to Singletary on 3rd and 1 which Singletary missed again made me wanna rip my hair out. It caused us to have a 4th and 1 at our own 35 yard line

I wonder why we just don't run the diamond QB keeper that the Eagles run

1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

I wonder why we just don't run the diamond QB keeper that the Eagles run repeatedly 

 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I did not coach kids. I coached semi-pro soccer in the UK for 6 seasons. 

 

Apologies. I must be thinking of a different poster.

 

I don’t know soccer well.

[Peter]

5 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Josh Allen will say it for you.

 

”Our guys fricking love seeing that. I know people might be making a big deal out of it, but as players, we freaking love seeing that.”

 

That’s the leader of the entire team saying that.

 

Your opinion is in disagreeable with the actual players on the teams. What does that say about how your opinion is actually felt within the locker room?

 

I get that your experience as a Pee Wee coach (you said you coach kids sports, right?) gives you perspective, but does the actual opinion of the players on the team matter to you? Or only your moral high ground?

 

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You are 100% correct Einstein.

 

GunnerBill refers to being a "leader."

 

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/?app=core&module=members&controller=profile&id=23863

 

Guess who Dorsey is leading?  The very guys who (like Josh) have said:

 

”Our guys fricking love seeing that. I know people might be making a big deal out of it, but as players, we freaking love seeing that.”

Edited October 19, 2022 by Peter

[Airseven]

Offense seems fine other than the usual short yardage issues and poor run game that we’ve come to expect. The differences have been rather subtle so far, perhaps with less circus plays. 👍

[benderbender]

If Kliff Kingsbury and Nathaniel Hackett can fail forward to a HC position, there’s no reason Dorsey can’t.

[ColoradoBills]

Dorsey is just scratching the surface of the other offensive schemes and styles he can develop outside the main passing game.

It's going to take some time.  He is already showing a better run game in KC.

 

As to a HC gig next season.  Owners better realize that Ken is good, but he is not going to make Darnold or similar QBs into Allen.

Dorsey should realize that too.  He has a lot of things to work on yet in Buffalo.

 

There is a right time for everything and IMO it would be a mistake to jump to HC too early and to a bad organization.

[ganesh]

3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

Dorsey is just scratching the surface of the other offensive schemes and styles he can develop outside the main passing game.

It's going to take some time.  He is already showing a better run game in KC.

 

As to a HC gig next season.  Owners better realize that Ken is good, but he is not going to make Darnold or similar QBs into Allen.

Dorsey should realize that too.  He has a lot of things to work on yet in Buffalo.

 

There is a right time for everything and IMO it would be a mistake to jump to HC too early and to a bad organization.

Daboll is doing alright !

[without a drought]

He'll never get a head coaching job after his little episode in the booth.

 

Teams like the Browns have standards that must be upheld.

[DeltaDigital]

20 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Uh...did you not watch the game Sunday?  They ran 2 of them.

they should run it every damn time its 2 yards or under. the man is unstoppable. brady made a living off it for 25 years. got 3rd and 1 problems? sneak. problems with short yardage solved. 

unacceptable they haven't made that an absolute staple of the offense. glad they woke up vs KC and used it, but lets hope it stays. 

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

they should run it every damn time its 2 yards or under. the man is unstoppable. brady made a living off it for 25 years. got 3rd and 1 problems? sneak. problems with short yardage solved. 

unacceptable they haven't made that an absolute staple of the offense. glad they woke up vs KC and used it, but lets hope it stays. 

 

Agreed...it seemed like ever since Allen slipped against Tennessee last year and fell short they stopped running it.  They ran it a lot prior to that.

[DeltaDigital]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Agreed...it seemed like ever since Allen slipped against Tennessee last year and fell short they stopped running it.  They ran it a lot prior to that.

right... it's why its so confounding.. sometimes plays don't work... why they throw them out "jet sweep" comes to mind, is baffling. instead, a pitch to the back outside... from shotgun? it makes no sense. run from under center and let the backs do their thing. 

 

[ArtVandalay]

On 10/17/2022 at 9:54 PM, NoSaint said:

That meltdown clip wont help him either

 

not the end of the world but plays poorly in that regard 

 

 

Dan Campbell gave a press conference talking about biting knee caps.

 

Adam Gase was high as a kite eyes rolling in his head at his press conference. 

 

Josh McDaniels committed then changed his mind after things were mid motion with position coaches being hired. 

 

If you think slamming a clipboard because your WR was a dummy and the team lost because he didn't get OB is gong to cost him a job you're out to lunch. 

[Kwai San]

On 10/17/2022 at 10:40 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

No different than Belichick, Saban temper tantrums

 

They were both already well ensconced Head Coaches.....no?

[ColoradoBills]

22 hours ago, ganesh said:

Daboll is doing alright !

 

Daboll has a lot more experience in coaching and the responsibility of a coordinator than Dorsey does.

Dorsey has 6 games worth of OC.  Daboll had 120+.