billsfan_34 Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Protocal69 said: People weren't paying 100's or 1000's of dolllars for tickets not to mention PSL licenses ( 5-10 thousand) to attend said games for over 140 years just to freeze during the game either 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Because football has been played in the open air for over 140 years Hot , cold , wind , rain and snow are a part of football Airplanes and cars suck- people have walked for thousands of years. We better not use any sort of modern technology and get to walking. While we are at it; no more smartphones and computers…. 2 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, BigDingus said: Just think of the extra money they'd have saved if they didn't keep putting band-aids on the Ralph & actually invested in a new stadium when it was semi-affordable. Vikings: US Bank Stadium - $1.23 Billion (2021 dollars) Colts: Lucas Oil Stadium - $907.6 million Cardinals: State Farm Stadium - $612.3 million Cowboys: AT&T Stadium - $1.64 Billion Texans: NRG Stadium - $530.2 million Falcons: Mercedes-Benz Stadium - $1.69 Billion I'd say the sweet spot would've been around the last renovations deal, investing in a stadium like the Vikings' US Bank Stadium. It broke ground around the same time, and even with inflation cost just over $1.2 billion. Even with higher costs in NY compared to Minnesota, factor in all the costs spent on renovations & you're probably still coming out ahead. Oh well, coulda-woulda-shoulda! The state and the county are kicking in a combined $850M already. If the Pegula's wanted one, they could make it happen. Terry Pegula has a net worth of $6.7B. 2 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: A dome will allow lesser QBs to have the game of their life in the playoffs Perfect weather can make any pro QB have a good game… Very few can come here in January and play well That makes no sense. Then why didn't Josh light it up against NE in those winds. It neutralized both qbs turning the game over to run attack. 2 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: We were never going to host a Super Bowl even with a dome. Not enough hotel rooms. Not even close to the amount needed. Why do people keep saying this? This is a nonsensical argument. If Buffalo had a venue like that, which could host events year-round, more hotels would be built around it. Edited October 18, 2022 by Billz4ever 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: The state and the county are kicking in a combined $850M already. If the Pegula's wanted one, they could make it happen. Terry Pegula has a net worth of $6.7B. Oh for sure, I agree with you 100% I'm just saying they should've bit the bullet earlier, & that $850 million would've gone a lot further, coupled with the money not spent on renovations. 1 Quote
MJS Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Too cold? Come again? You do understand that's the purpose of an enclosed stadium, correct? Super Bowl LII between the Eagles and Pats was literally in Minneapolis @U.S. Bank Stadium, my guy. And you understand that having a venue where more events could be held in the cold season would lead to more hotels being built. It sounds like you're trying to find excuses simply to not have one rather than giving real, valid reasons. The superbowl is not just about the game. It is about hosting a ton of people in your city. Edited October 18, 2022 by MJS Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, MJS said: The superbowl is not just about the game. It is about hosting a ton of people in your city. You said it was too cold, dude. I'm just going to disregard everything else after that since it was such a ridiculous comment. But you apparently also do not understand that if Buffalo were to have a venue like that, which could host events year-round, hotel chains would literally be falling all over themselves to build hotels around it. 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: Disagree. Considering what the Pegula's were able to talk the State into kicking in, they could've made it happen. Would've made the Pegula's open their wallet and pay more, but funding really isn't the issue. It's the desire to do it. Wait, so now you're suggesting we need to play outside so we have some imaginary advantage in order to win? LMAO I think we're still waiting for you to name the games we won specifically because we played outside in bad weather and it gave us the advantage. And FYI, the Super Bowl is always played in locations were it's assumed weather will not be a factor, so it's a true test of team vs team, not teams vs the weather. I would point to the Divisional Round game against Baltimore. Josh was a better passer than Lamar in that game and tried more throws than Lamar did (due to his natural arm talent), and we did a good job containing their rushing attack. Plus two missed FG’s by Tucker! Quote
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, stevewin said: I'll believe it when we see the renderings What are the odds the Titans renderings come out before ours Quote
djp14150 Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: The state and the county are kicking in a combined $850M already. If the Pegula's wanted one, they could make it happen. Terry Pegula has a net worth of $6.7B. the state requires it being a dome to be able to hold other events besides football. they can hold.. final 4 major college bowl presidential convention super bowl large conventions Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I would point to the Divisional Round game against Baltimore. Josh was a better passer than Lamar in that game and tried more throws than Lamar did (due to his natural arm talent), and we did a good job containing their rushing attack. Plus two missed FG’s by Tucker! That makes no sense considering Josh on average attempts way more passes than Lamar does in the first place. Lamar only played in 12 games last year, so I'll use 2020 instead. Lamar had 382 attempts on the season. Josh had 572...nearly 200 more attempts. You've drawn conclusions not supported by the actual situation. 14 minutes ago, djp14150 said: the state requires it being a dome to be able to hold other events besides football. they can hold.. final 4 major college bowl presidential convention super bowl large conventions That literally makes the case for a dome/retractable roof because then the State and County are getting more use out of it then rather than just sinking hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars into an open air football stadium. Edited October 18, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 There will only be a handful of open stadiums in 10-15 years. The team with the worst climate will be one of them. 1 Quote
AlfaBill Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Protocal69 said: Why? Because fat slobs with bare chests can beat the pecks like gorillas and think they’re tough. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Why do people keep saying this? This is a nonsensical argument. If Buffalo had a venue like that, which could host events year-round, more hotels would be built around it. Super Bowl week needs 25,000 hotel rooms. Metro Buffalo has 9,000. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/5/31/4368898/could-buffalo-host-a-super-bowl 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Super Bowl week needs 25,000 hotel rooms. Metro Buffalo has 9,000. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/5/31/4368898/could-buffalo-host-a-super-bowl And if Buffalo had a venue like this that could host events year round, Hotel chains would be falling all over themselves to build around it. This is already a well-established economic development model. And that article is now a decade old. Pretty sure that number for Buffalo has increased by itself anyway. Edited October 18, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, stevewin said: I'll believe it when we see the renderings I can’t believe that after the huge win by the Bills yesterday that THIS would be the best take of the day, but there it is. Bravo, Sir. Edited October 18, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: And if Buffalo had a venue like this that could host events year round, Hotel chains would be falling all over themselves to build around it. This is already a well-established economic development model. I can't see that happening, even with a dome. Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: I can't see that happening, even with a dome. Why is that? It's a model that has been repeated proven all over the country for years, not just for Domes/retractable roofs. Large indoor venues in general. Quote
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