FireChans Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: How were his hands in Foxboro last year? Oh man I didn’t realize he had a single good game a year ago. Pay the man! 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: How were his hands in Foxboro last year? You have to be consistent in The NFL. HE IS NOT.... 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Thank you. Been saying it all along. He isnt mentally sharp or focused enough to be part of this team. It always something with this dude. Josh, Diggs, Davis, Knox are all dialed-in at all times, ready for anything, and hyper focused on doing their jobs. McK is obviously not. He is a liability, and I do not trust him one bit out on the field with the Super Bowl in the balance. It is 100% Shakir time, and only go to McKenzie if we have no other choice. Rumor is he had to leave UGA early due to poor grades. It was either move on to the draft or become academically ineligible. Quote
4merper4mer Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, FireChans said: Oh man I didn’t realize he had a single good game a year ago. Pay the man! Just now, HOUSE said: You have to be consistent in The NFL. HE IS NOT.... He had a rough game yesterday. Not all of it was on him as it is being painted. The End zone throw was behind him and he slipped. It followed two consecutive bad play calls. If you’re going to dump guys every time they have a tough game you are going to have a small roster. Shouldn’t we cut all 3 guys that missed the JuJu tackle too? 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Rumor is he had to leave UGA early due to poor grades. It was either move on to the draft or become academically ineligible. Seriously? Rumors about bad grades in college? Shirley 1 Quote
FireChans Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: He had a rough game yesterday. Not all of it was on him as it is being painted. The End zone throw was behind him and he slipped. It followed two consecutive bad play calls. If you’re going to dump guys every time they have a tough game you are going to have a small roster. Shouldn’t we cut all 3 guys that missed the JuJu tackle too? It’s not just yesterday. McKenzie leads our team, imo, in skill players causing back breaking plays. He coughed up the pick against the Rams. He had the failure to run out of bounds debacle. The TO yesterday. The drops. Statistically, he may have the most negative impact on our offense’s DVOA. Now that doesn’t mean cut him. But if you weren’t sweating a McKenzie fumble in the second half on KR to lose us the game yesterday, I call you a liar lol. 2 1 1 Quote
DJB Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 14 hours ago, bobobonators said: Dude just came back from a concussion. I wouldnt go all in on ripping him to shreds. Calm down a bit. Maybe he’s not feeling right yet. Then he shouldn’t be playing and in concussion protocol instead. His hands are terrible that’s the problem 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Also credit where credit is due, I’m rooting for Isaiah but Lil Dummy is an all time nickname. @BADOLBILZ 1 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: He had a rough game yesterday. Not all of it was on him as it is being painted. The End zone throw was behind him and he slipped. It followed two consecutive bad play calls. If you’re going to dump guys every time they have a tough game you are going to have a small roster. Shouldn’t we cut all 3 guys that missed the JuJu tackle too? Seriously? Rumors about bad grades in college? Shirley Look, he plays a key roll for Buffalo, he is suppose to be a better version of Cole Beasley. Cole Beasley would have caught every one of those passes. McD and Ken Dorsey will make changes after that game, you can be sure. 3 Quote
BananaB Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: The end zone drop on the ball thrown behind him after we ran for 7 yards on first down then threw on 2nd and 3rd? Yup we have to blame one guy for all of those things I suppose. That was an easy catch if he didn’t trip. Might of been behind but it was still an easy catch… He’s got a part in this O he’s just not reliable to be that slot guy. The negative plays are drive killers and sometimes knocking points off the board. 10 points (maybe 14) were left off the board yesterday because of plays to him. The first 3 drives ended with the ball going off his hands and hitting the ground. Quote
4merper4mer Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, FireChans said: It’s not just yesterday. McKenzie leads our team, imo, in skill players causing back breaking plays. He coughed up the pick against the Rams. He had the failure to run out of bounds debacle. The TO yesterday. The drops. Statistically, he may have the most negative impact on our offense’s DVOA. Now that doesn’t mean cut him. But if you weren’t sweating a McKenzie fumble in the second half on KR to lose us the game yesterday, I call you a liar lol. I’m not saying he is the perfect player but starting threads for the sole purpose of calling a player that has contributed a dummy is ridiculous. People piling on in the thread…..almost as ridiculous. It’s happened with Edmunds for quite a while. He is having a strong year so on we move to another target. It’s stupid. And if we’re going to call someone out fine, but at least be accurate. The end zone throw was on Allen, not McK. It was at worst a 50/50 split. Should we dump on Allen? Obviously not, but let’s not be inaccurate about what happened on that play in an effort to bash someone else. And the OO bounds “debacle”? Shirley. He had to outrun three guys for 50 yards with heatstroke to get a whiff of the sideline on that play. Right now he is playing ahead of a rookie….it may not last long but that rookie blew a pivotal block when Gabe was out……and don’t forget 6 is only in because Crowder is out….and Crowder hasn’t exactly been on point thus far. 6 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Look, he plays a key roll for Buffalo, he is suppose to be a better version of Cole Beasley. Cole Beasley would have caught every one of those passes. McD and Ken Dorsey will make changes after that game, you can be sure. He is supposed to be a gadget player and Crowder’s backup. Don’t make up crap about him being expected to be Beasley plus. His contract indicates nothing of the sort nor did his role before Crowder’s injury. 1 Quote
uninja Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 I think McKenzie is a good player, but he blinks. He gets the yips and then gets in his own head. 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: That was an easy catch if he didn’t trip. Might of been behind but it was still an easy catch… He’s got a part in this O he’s just not reliable to be that slot guy. The negative plays are drive killers and sometimes knocking points off the board. 10 points (maybe 14) were left off the board yesterday because of plays to him. The first 3 drives ended with the ball going off his hands and hitting the ground. Lol he tripped trying to adjust to the ball while a near full speed. We also left points off the board o that drive by not running on either 2nd or 3rd after motor got 7 on first and the push had been there all day. Fire Dorsey too? Or is McKenzie the entire reason for that stalled drive? Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: He had a rough game yesterday. Not all of it was on him as it is being painted. The End zone throw was behind him and he slipped. It followed two consecutive bad play calls. If you’re going to dump guys every time they have a tough game you are going to have a small roster. Shouldn’t we cut all 3 guys that missed the JuJu tackle too? Seriously? Rumors about bad grades in college? Shirley Bad grades in college ? I think we're all guilty of that Quote
FireChans Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I’m not saying he is the perfect player but starting threads for the sole purpose of calling a player that has contributed a dummy is ridiculous. People piling on in the thread…..almost as ridiculous. It’s happened with Edmunds for quite a while. He is having a strong year so on we move to another target. It’s stupid. And if we’re going to call someone out fine, but at least be accurate. The end zone throw was on Allen, not McK. It was at worst a 50/50 split. Should we dump on Allen? Obviously not, but let’s not be inaccurate about what happened on that play in an effort to bash someone else. And the OO bounds “debacle”? Shirley. He had to outrun three guys for 50 yards with heatstroke to get a whiff of the sideline on that play. Right now he is playing ahead of a rookie….it may not last long but that rookie blew a pivotal block when Gabe was out……and don’t forget 6 is only in because Crowder is out….and Crowder hasn’t exactly been on point thus far. He is supposed to be a gadget player and Crowder’s backup. Don’t make up crap about him being expected to be Beasley plus. His contract indicates nothing of the sort nor did his role before Crowder’s injury. Edmunds is having a good year so he’s getting less grief than a guy who is not having a good year is not the own you think it is lol 1 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 I see McKenzie as almost the direct antithesis to Von in mindset and oftentimes in execution (or lack thereof). There's a reason why the team is only paying him a couple million this year. And why no other team offered him a lot more. Quote
4merper4mer Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Edmunds is having a good year so he’s getting less grief than a guy who is not having a good year is not the own you think it is lol The point……which you missed…..is that it is unnecessary to feel the need to find someone to bash in the first place. There is a difference between a coherent discussion of details and starting a thread simply to pile on a player with name calling. 2 2 Quote
Rubes Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Good thing some of you folks aren't in charge of personnel, otherwise Knox would have been gone a long time ago. 2 Quote
4merper4mer Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rubes said: Good thing some of you folks aren't in charge of personnel, otherwise Knox would have been gone a long time ago. Exacatickly Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 15 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: On a related topic, how was the fumble by Lil D attributed to Allen? Isn’t it just like if Allen had pitched the ball back to a RB on a sweep who drops and ball? That one wouldn’t be on the QB, would it? I was afraid they were going to nail Josh on that. Josh was the last bill with possession of it so it makes sense. BTW, on the fumble Naace said "he never saw the ball coming" or something akin to that which is totally bogus. McKenzie saw is put both hands up and let it dropped through them. A shockingly bad whiff imo. 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rubes said: Good thing some of you folks aren't in charge of personnel, otherwise Knox would have been gone a long time ago. oh please, there is a difference between a 2 year guy learning the position at the NFL level and now a 5+ year vet that never broke 300 yards in a season. your statement is crazy. Last year Knox had a 500 yard year. after 5 years in the league you should not be a "work in progress" ... come on man... not with the younger depth behind him. Good thing you're not our GM. in my opinion after KC game, McKenzie lost his #3 WR position. 3 Quote
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