Hermes Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Seriously. How much do the Bills win by without numerous (2-3) drives extended by penalties for 1st downs, or non calls that would've obviously changed the outcome of a play. It's not just this game and not just against the the Bills. The Refs clearly show bias and it's getting more and more obvious to even the common fan. The Bills have been fortunate in this regard since Allen but the overall officiating is horrendous. There have been a handful of times where the bills should've gotten penalties or non calls against them and it worked in our favor. IMO the Bills have been on the "right side" of these calls this season but it still points to the inability of the NFL to have capable Refs. How ridiculous is it that a multi-billion organization can't at least be impartial when it comes to the rules that govern the game!? I don't care if the Bills get more calls against the weaker teams in the league, so long as the overall game is called consistently and fairly for every team. How many times have you seen a flag and then the network doesn't show a replay or there's a convoluted explanation why the call was right.. TL:DR, Refs suck, Bills didn't benefit tonight, but overall they have. 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Well then… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I kind of agree if you watched every play I’m sure they held just as much but we called for like 5 def holding and 3-4 on third and longs it was annoying go bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 How often do they call holding for what they were calling defensive holding on? So ticky tack like the replays showed it and it was like, that happens every damn play. Except somehow it extends chiefs dead drives at least twice for automatic 1st downs. Then no tripping call. No block in the back on the punt immediately after the no tripping call. Refs gave the chiefs every opportunity to win this. 8 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 My favorite was that insane sidearm throw where Kelsey got called on the push-off. Guy's got more arm angles than anybody since Bernie Kosar. There's almost 2 Quisenberry's on the field. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Today we had to beat the 2nd best team in the NFL. On top of that were the brutal calls from Brad Allen and Isaiah McKenzie completely playing himself off the 53. Thankfully Superman showed up to save the day. Props to the D for finally making a play in a critical leveraged situation. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 That trip…that was blatent and an absolutely horrendous non-call that almost completely altered the game. Thank god the defense came to absolutely ball out today 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said: I kind of agree if you watched every play I’m sure they held just as much but we called for like 5 def holding and 3-4 on third and longs it was annoying go bills I think that's the worst part. It's not just on a run of the mill 2nd down, it's when the cards are on the table the refs control the flop. I mean, the big play doesn't reach home.. just look for the flag. Marquee team/players generally get the calls to keep the game alive. It would be nice to just watch the players play and not have to worry about a great defensive stop or offensive gain negated by a redundant penalty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 So you don't think it was tripping? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hermes said: It would be nice to just watch the players play I don't know how many times I said that today. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 No doubt that officiating, as is par for the course, is bad at best. Every single game, even if you're not watching the Bills, is like that. It's infuriating, frankly. So the only way to counter is to put points on the board, and to power on. Early in the game the Bills just missed opportunities, and when you play these tough games and rely on officiating, you shouldn't. (Otherwise it was an incredibly satisfying win, make no mistake.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 And then 5 minutes reviewing the final interception from 15 angles to see if there was anything they could call to give the ball back to KC. 1 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 NFL officials brought to you by Fan Deul. with the proliferation of legalized sports betting the terrible officiating is nothing short of laughable. What an embarrassment to a multi-billion dollar industry. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 What are the chances that the refs keep their flags in their pockets if Greg Rousseau blatantly tripped Patrick Mahomes on a key third and long? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Teams always make mistakes which are more significant than any blown call, but that’s part of football. Honestly the refs control the outcomes of way too many games. This is one where the Chiefs should have won, the Refs gave them the edge. TB last week is another example. Heck basically ever close game win of Brady’s career was given to them by the refs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 It was really weird. The ref were ignoring a lot of possible calls on both sides at first, then started making some ticky tack calls. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said: No doubt that officiating, as is par for the course, is bad at best. Every single game, even if you're not watching the Bills, is like that. It's infuriating, frankly. So the only way to counter is to put points on the board, and to power on. Early in the game the Bills just missed opportunities, and when you play these tough games and rely on officiating, you shouldn't. (Otherwise it was an incredibly satisfying win, make no mistake.) Talk about cathartic! I'm so happy the Bills pulled out the W! Regardless of any other factors. Beating KC at Arrowhead is huge for team morale/confidence and seeding purposes. 4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: And then 5 minutes reviewing the final interception from 15 angles to see if there was anything they could call to give the ball back to KC. Hahah right!? It's like 'oh, this play could potentially end the game, better scrutinize it ad nauseam. Don't worry about the calls earlier in the game. Those don't really matter (unless it affects the spread)' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 his stupid-a$$ little point every time he thinks there should be a flag on the defense pisses me the F off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, RiotAct said: his stupid-a$$ little point every time he thinks there should be a flag on the defense pisses me the F off. We win a SB and Allen the MVP we will start getting all those calls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 What I don't like is that I've been watching this game for decades and yet they'll bring on some ref "expert" after every play to tell me what my eyes are telling me is wrong. If I can watch a game for 20 years and still be "wrong" about calls, it tells me that the rulebook is way too complicated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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