I don't hate Kansas City

[GunnerBill]

I don't mind them. There is only really one team in the league that I dislike and it is randomly the Eagles (although with Sanders, Hurts, AJ Brown even they have some guys on that team now that I like). 

 

I support the Bills and I am generally ambivalent on everyone else. I am not one who goes in for hating opponents. I think it is kind of the way I was brought up to do your best, support your side, but don't wish ill on rivals. I only ever want other teams to lose if it benefits Arsenal. I remember Manchester United winning the Champions League in 1999 and some of my mates being distraught and I just genuinely wasn't bothered. We (Arsenal) were out much earlier in the competition so it did us no harm.

Edited October 14, 2022 by GunnerBill

[US Egg]

The Chiefs are likely the Bills primary obstacle for a decade.

 

Mahomes is pretty much the NFL QB picture boy and the Chiefs touted as the model franchise……

 

…..unless JA and his teammates do something about it soon.

[TheBrownBear]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

The Fans are the worst. 

 

The second worst are media members who all get the same talking points after the game. Analysis that is nothing deeper than reading box scores. 

 

And honestly, I'm petty, no way do I like that Josh is good friends with Mahomes. I like the Jordan philosophy better, I feel more like. He is trying to beat you, he has beaten you, there is no friends. I'm not playing golf with you the week after you beat me. 

I think it's just the way the younger generation operates.  And I don't think it really takes away your competitiveness come game time.  I have good friends that I'm crazy competitive with on the golf course, who I absolutely despise losing to in tournaments or money games, but at the end of the day we are still great friends and can grab some drinks afterwards.

[Rockinon]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

I absolutely despise the Chiefs and want the Bills to stomp the ever loving hell out of their balls.

 

Is that wrong?

It doesn't make you a bad person

[TheFunPolice]

5 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

The Chiefs are likely the Bills primary obstacle for a decade.

 

Mahomes is pretty much the NFL QB picture boy and the Chiefs touted as the model franchise……

 

…..unless JA and his teammates do something about it soon.

 

Allen is right up there with Mahomes as the NFL's new golden boy... He (Allen) gets more roughing the passer calls than almost any other QB 

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, Success said:

Is that wrong?  

 

Mahomes is one of the most fun players in the league to watch. You almost have to love that guy as a general fan of the game. It's cool that he and Allen have so much respect for each other and have said they're friends off the field.  I also have always liked Reid, and he really paid his dues in Philly all those years.  

 

I also see their market & history has similar to Buffalo.  Not an NFL darling, passionate & crazy fanbase.  Came up short for decades before finally having a team that can deliver.  And Patriots fans hate KC, so that has to count for something.

 

I find it strange that I don't hate them, because I usually hate any team that ends my team's season even once, and they've done it twice now.

 

Anyone else feel that way?  I have a feeling I'm going to get a lot of vomit reactions, but I was curious.

 

Don’t hate them at all either. Just hope they lose to us every time.

[Dr. K]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I agree. i was happy for him..... little did i know the whole fan base would act like they never had business losing a game for the rest of time...

Do you really think, if the Bills had the success that the Chiefs have had, that Bills fans would be any better? That there wouldn't be just as many Bills fans who would act like jerks about the team?

 

To imagine so is, in my opinion laughable. 

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, Success said:

Is that wrong?  

Yes.  They will be our bitter rival for at least the next decade.  I hate Mahomes.  I hate Kelce.  I hate Reid.  I hate the Chiefs.  🤣

Edited October 14, 2022 by LabattBlue

[StHustle]

What I can say is their fans are definitely welcoming. I have been there the last 3 times Bills went (13 seconds was so crushing!) and their fans are always super nice and the people there in general. Even walking around walmart, people in Cheifs gear would say "Welcome to Kansas City!" 

 

I actually felt bad cause I talk alot of sh*t to opposing fans wherever im at. It can be at the airport, in a store and definitely at games. They made it so hard to talk *****. They all kept saying how much they like Josh Allen. Made me keep my trap shut for how I dont like Mahomes. Its not that I dont respect his game or watvh him when i can, its just the same type of dislike I had for Brady. Its a rivalry thing.

[folz]

I don't hate Mahomes, Reid, or Kansas City...but I did lose a lot of respect for them with how they handled themselves in the AFC Championship game 2 years ago vs. the Bills. Cocky, arrogant, rubbing it in the Bills' faces (and when they got a lot of help from the refs in that game too). I was so down on them at that time that I found myself actually rooting for Tom Brady for the first time in my life...and was glad to see Tampa Bay humble them in the Super Bowl that year. And I still don't enjoy seeing KC win. Don't hate them like I did the Dolphins back in the day, but really want to see the Bills knock them down a peg and take control of the AFC.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Success said:

Is that wrong?  

 

Mahomes is one of the most fun players in the league to watch. You almost have to love that guy as a general fan of the game. It's cool that he and Allen have so much respect for each other and have said they're friends off the field.  I also have always liked Reid, and he really paid his dues in Philly all those years.  

 

I also see their market & history has similar to Buffalo.  Not an NFL darling, passionate & crazy fanbase.  Came up short for decades before finally having a team that can deliver.  And Patriots fans hate KC, so that has to count for something.

 

I find it strange that I don't hate them, because I usually hate any team that ends my team's season even once, and they've done it twice now.

 

Anyone else feel that way?  I have a feeling I'm going to get a lot of vomit reactions, but I was curious.

 

Interesting points you raise.  

 

The thing is, the Chiefs have had all winning seasons in the last 10 years since Reid took over as HC.  So some of their fans have become a bit insufferable.  It will happen here, too (or at least I hope it will); continuous success brings out the bandwagoners and entitled fans whose knowledge of football is "Hurrr Durrr We Great, You Suck".  

 

Of course, for a stretch prior to that they were their own kind of "dysfunction Junction" changing HC every 2-3 years and as much drama or more than OBD ever produced.

 

I think what I really hate is the hype machine around Mahomes as this God-like unbeatable figure and the announcing bias it brings.  Mahomes runs backwards 15 yds and makes a successful heave to convert a key 3rd down and it's all about how great he is or, if he's sacked for a huge loss, "they got him that time but it shows how he just never quits on a play".  Allen does likewise and "he's got to stop taking those sacks for huge losses".  That kind of chaps my grits.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Mahomes would be a great QB anywhere, but in KC he was given the keys of a finely tuned sports car that was not being driven to its potential by Alex Smith.   He had a decent run game with Hunt, he had Hill, he had Kelce for two 1000 yd receivers the previous years.  He had a solid OL with entrenched starters at LT, RT, and C.  The Chiefs had a decent mid-pack defense Mahomes first starting year, which they worked to improve.  But the narrative is "Oh Mahomes

 

Reid slugged at it in the trenches for a long time before he won a Superbowl.  I'm not sure what year, I think it was 2016, Reid and the Chiefs lost a close game in the Divisional round after they were 12-4 on the season, and an analyst - I think it was - Tony Dungy was fired up.  Said very bluntly the Kansas City Chiefs might win a Superbowl, but it wouldn't be with Reid as their head coach.  It was harsh.  I think Reid took a "continuous improvement mindset" and went through his decision making process top to bottom and changed things.

 

And to their credit, the KC ownership stayed the course and didn't kick him to the curb as "not quite good enough to get us there", and they have been rewarded.

 

So overall, I suppose I don't hate them, but I do hate some of the media coverage of them.

 

And I hate some of the "mulligans" they get from the refs.

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Beck Water

[Dr. K]

1 hour ago, Lost said:

I only hate them when they're in our path to the Lombardy

Are we moving to Italy?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lombardy

 

[No_Matter_What]

I "hate" them because they have something what we don't. SB.

 

If we win one, it will allow me to see things differently.

 

That's why I already don't "hate" Patriots. We killed them last year in WC so they became irrelevant to me. Win SB and I won't care about the Chiefs too.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

Interesting points you raise.  

 

The thing is, the Chiefs have had all winning seasons in the last 10 years since Reid took over as HC.  So some of their fans have become a bit insufferable.  It will happen here, too (or at least I hope it will); continuous success brings out the bandwagoners and entitled fans whose knowledge of football is "Hurrr Durrr We Great, You Suck".  

 

Of course, for a stretch prior to that they were their own kind of "dysfunction Junction" changing HC every 2-3 years and as much drama or more than OBD ever produced.

 

I think what I really hate is the hype machine around Mahomes as this God-like unbeatable figure and the announcing bias it brings.  Mahomes runs backwards 15 yds and makes a successful heave to convert a key 3rd down and it's all about how great he is or, if he's sacked for a huge loss, "they got him that time but it shows how he just never quits on a play".  Allen does likewise and "he's got to stop taking those sacks for huge losses".  That kind of chaps my grits.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Mahomes would be a great QB anywhere, but in KC he was given the keys of a finely tuned sports car that was not being driven to its potential by Alex Smith.   He had a decent run game with Hunt, he had Hill, he had Kelce for two 1000 yd receivers the previous years.  He had a solid OL with entrenched starters at LT, RT, and C.  The Chiefs had a decent mid-pack defense Mahomes first starting year, which they worked to improve.  But the narrative is "Oh Mahomes

 

Reid slugged at it in the trenches for a long time before he won a Superbowl.  I'm not sure what year, I think it was 2016, Reid and the Chiefs lost a close game in the Divisional round after they were 12-4 on the season, and an analyst - I think it was - Tony Dungy was fired up.  Said very bluntly the Kansas City Chiefs might win a Superbowl, but it wouldn't be with Reid as their head coach.  It was harsh.  I think Reid took a "continuous improvement mindset" and went through his decision making process top to bottom and changed things.

 

And to their credit, the KC ownership stayed the course and didn't kick him to the curb as "not quite good enough to get us there", and they have been rewarded.

 

So overall, I suppose I don't hate them, but I do hate some of the media coverage of them.

 

 

 

The fans act like they hand scouted Mahomes, were so convinced he would be great that they barged into the KC Front Office and changed their mind to take him when they were going to take someone else. 

 

Like the Patriots, they start acting like because they grew up in Kansas City that they "know what good football looks like" or they have "high standards" and "don't accept losing". 

 

 

[4thandGoal]

How many of you that hate the fans actually been to a game there...  I was at 2 games wearing my Bills gear and they were very friendly and engaging and easy to talk with

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said:

I "hate" them because they have something what we don't. SB.

 

If we win one, it will allow me to see things differently.

 

That's why I already don't "hate" Patriots. We killed them last year in WC so they became irrelevant to me. Win SB and I won't care about the Chiefs too.

This is right. 

 

For example, I'm not happy for the Philadelphia Eagles.

 

Why would I be happy for the city of Philadelphia winning a Super Bowl before Buffalo? 

 

If the Browns made it to the Super Bowl, why would I root for them to win a Super Bowl before the Bills?

 

So I watch their fans celebrate, meanwhile I'm on the shrinking list of teams that have never won one?

 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

2 hours ago, Success said:

I don't hate Kansas City

 

They got some crazy Little women there. 

[FilthyBeast]

Personally I don't hate any NFL team, even the Pats during their NFL/AFC East dominance the greater part of 20 years.

 

And regarding the Chiefs/Mahomes, that feeling is pretty much the same other than maybe Travis Kelce who seems like one of those smug ahole types that you'd love to punch in the face. But then again when you are on your way to being the best TE in NFL history it kind of comes with that territory. Also think Chris Jones is one of those dirty type of players too but he's a top 5 defensive player in this league.

 

But in the bigger picture, if the Chiefs fulfill the trajectory I think their on which is becoming the next Pats/Brady situation have to imagine a lot of Bills fans aren't going to be pleased especially if it means no sustained SB runs or a lombardi trophy in Buffalo and we are just second fiddle to the Chiefs every year. That is why this Sunday is the first step in terms trying to alter history, or simply accepting the inevitable.

[msw2112]

In my other (lenghy) post, I forgot to mention that I have a co-worker from KC who is a big Chiefs fan.  He stopped by my office on Monday to tell me that 1) the Bills are great; 2) Josh Allen is awesome; and 3) he's very concerned about Sunday.  He's a good guy that loves his team, just like I love mine.  He knows good football when he sees it and respects it.  He seems like a pretty typical Chiefs fan and I can work with that.  Very different from obnoxious Cowboys, Raiders, Steelers, and Dolphins fans whose arrogance and false sense of superiority is tied to things that happened 20, 30, and 40 years ago.

Edited October 14, 2022 by msw2112

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I just want the Bills to be able to prove to be their equals annually. Pretty sure Allen is 1-3 vs Patrick.