Just Jack Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 4:00 AM, ChasBB said: How about this for field goals? ... 😀 ... Expand I've been thinking about that, doing variable point FGs, but based on distance, not hitting a certain part of the goal posts. 2 Quote
loyal2dagame Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 4:00 AM, ChasBB said: How about this for field goals? ... 😀 ... Expand Ladder golf? 1 Quote
Billy Claude Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 4:00 AM, ChasBB said: How about this for field goals? ... 😀 ... Expand In Gaelic football, it actually works the other way, 3 points below the crossbar (a goal) and 1 point (a point) above the crossbar. The goal posts are taken to extend upwards forever. They only use cameras to decide on whether a point is scored -- not goals. Actually FGs would be more exciting if the NFL gave more points for lower field goals. That would increase the probability of a FG being blocked and require much more precision and touch from the kicker. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 1:21 AM, Just Jack said: I remember there was a thread during the off-season with the same pro/con arguments. Expand lol it's in every thread after the Bills lose a challenge at the goal line or of a spot. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 11:55 AM, Mr. WEO said: lol it's in every thread after the Bills lose a challenge at the goal line or of a spot. Expand Why not just put a chip in the baseball and do balls and strikes too? Probably because it doesn't work, not to mention - things don't need to be right all the time. You play baseball for your entire life with human umps, but now you get to the show and theres some computer determining balls and strikes... just doesn't seem right to me. Same goes here, until college they didn't even do reviews for your entire football life. It's part of the game. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 11:57 AM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Why not just put a chip in the baseball and do balls and strikes too? Probably because it doesn't work, not to mention - things don't need to be right all the time. You play baseball for your entire life with human umps, but now you get to the show and theres some computer determining balls and strikes... just doesn't seem right to me. Same goes here, until college they didn't even do reviews for your entire football life. It's part of the game. Expand balls and strikes wouldn't need a chip and would be the easiest thing in sports to automate. They should do it because each ump shouldn't be allowed to reinterpret what is the strike zone. 1 Quote
ChasBB Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 9:14 AM, Billy Claude said: In Gaelic football, it actually works the other way, 3 points below the crossbar (a goal) and 1 point (a point) above the crossbar. The goal posts are taken to extend upwards forever. They only use cameras to decide on whether a point is scored -- not goals. Actually FGs would be more exciting if the NFL gave more points for lower field goals. That would increase the probability of a FG being blocked and require much more precision and touch from the kicker. Expand Good point! Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 12:00 PM, Mr. WEO said: balls and strikes wouldn't need a chip and would be the easiest thing in sports to automate. They should do it because each ump shouldn't be allowed to reinterpret what is the strike zone. Expand I hate using replay in most sports. I like how NFL streamlined some things on obvious challenge plays to speed up play. But the things people want to most challenge are BS penalty calls. Baseball is probably the worst though. Seems like you can challenge everything but balls and strikes, and its obnoxious. Players scout umps, they know what their zone is before a game. To me its such a non-issue. Hockey Offside challenge is terrible, one of the worst replay rules. VAR is terrible in soccer. There are line judges whos sole purpose is to call Offside, just let them do it. Quote
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Jumping in, skipping the 4 pages.... I know my alma mater (Oklahoma State) uses a technology that has chips inside basketballs to monitor the number of shots a player takes, where on the floor and if he/she misses or hits a shot. You'd think they have this tech for football as well. https://www.ocolly.com/sports/trackers-in-the-toolbox-how-osu-basketball-uses-technology-to-gain-an-edge/article_eca722aa-4ec7-11eb-8bed-d7c1a36171c2.html On 10/14/2022 at 11:57 AM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Why not just put a chip in the baseball and do balls and strikes too? Probably because it doesn't work, not to mention - things don't need to be right all the time. You play baseball for your entire life with human umps, but now you get to the show and theres some computer determining balls and strikes... just doesn't seem right to me. Same goes here, until college they didn't even do reviews for your entire football life. It's part of the game. Expand Imagine how expensive that would get. 300,000 baseballs are used in a MLB season. Then think about all the fans that would have access to those chips with foul balls and HR's... and I could see someone hacking the MLB network to screw up a game. Edited October 14, 2022 by ArdmoreRyno Quote
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 1:29 PM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I hate using replay in most sports. I like how NFL streamlined some things on obvious challenge plays to speed up play. But the things people want to most challenge are BS penalty calls. Baseball is probably the worst though. Seems like you can challenge everything but balls and strikes, and its obnoxious. Players scout umps, they know what their zone is before a game. To me its such a non-issue. Hockey Offside challenge is terrible, one of the worst replay rules. VAR is terrible in soccer. There are line judges whos sole purpose is to call Offside, just let them do it. Expand They should allow off sides in the NHL. Might make the regular season games worth watching Quote
Rocky Landing Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 Obviously, as has been stated, GPS wouldn't work, as it isn't accurate enough. But, the technology is clearly there. The motion capture technology that we use in the motion picture industry is accurate to within a millimeter on stages as large as a football field. Also, the AI technology is certainly there to replace much of the officiating, and implanting a chip in John Hussey's brain would clear up a lot of bad calls. Quote
loyal2dagame Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 1:51 PM, ArdmoreRyno said: Jumping in, skipping the 4 pages.... I know my alma mater (Oklahoma State) uses a technology that has chips inside basketballs to monitor the number of shots a player takes, where on the floor and if he/she misses or hits a shot. You'd think they have this tech for football as well. https://www.ocolly.com/sports/trackers-in-the-toolbox-how-osu-basketball-uses-technology-to-gain-an-edge/article_eca722aa-4ec7-11eb-8bed-d7c1a36171c2.html Imagine how expensive that would get. 300,000 baseballs are used in a MLB season. Then think about all the fans that would have access to those chips with foul balls and HR's... and I could see someone hacking the MLB network to screw up a game. Expand Baseball doesn't need chips. They already have the strikezone box on broadcasts. Just implement a version of it to call balls and strikes Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 2:41 PM, loyal2dagame said: Baseball doesn't need chips. They already have the strikezone box on broadcasts. Just implement a version of it to call balls and strikes Expand Better yet, have a guy behind the catcher just call them. Quote
Livinginthepast Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 I think this is a great idea but as others have pointed out where the knee or elbow is would still be a ref's decision. Still its a smart start towards better accuracy than guessing which unfortunately is the norm with these officials. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 1:39 AM, Ga boy said: Do we get the female robot voice: In 23 yards you will reach you destination. Expand Actually certain plays in a football game would be hysterical if commented this way. "In 26 yards you will reach your destination. Warning! Imminent collision with defender's left buttock." OK maybe I just have a warped sense of humor, but you have to imagine that in the robot voice. 1 Quote
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