Bferra13 Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 He's following the sun and the money. 2 things Buffalo ain't got to offer him. Dallas or SF. Bank it. 1 3 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Irv said: 1. Make playoffs 2. Worry about OBJ 3. Learn to multitask for next year? Quote
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 I'd be surprised if hes a bill 1 1 Quote
Rc2catch Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 I’m not sure Buffalo was ever truly in the running for him. It’s been mentioned many times Von is probably just helping his buddy build value and I tend to agree. If he was signing for a half season 700k salary or something I think Beane would have already snagged him to get him in the building with Buffalos medical team rehabbing him. Quote
Italian Bills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: OBJ wants a long term deal which is huge money, he's not doing the prove it deal. I don't see how Beane can make this happen, unless he is willing to let a whole bunch of defensive players walk next offseason... Whatever it takes to get the SB now. Quote
DJB Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Oooooohhh another OBJ thread! Perhaps a new Edmunds thread is on the horizon as well 1 Quote
Locomark Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) He is using the Bills hype to up his price. He isn’t coming here. He wants money and a giant media market. He won’t get either in Buffalo. Edited November 13, 2022 by Locomark 1 Quote
SCBills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: OBJ wants a long term deal which is huge money, he's not doing the prove it deal. I don't see how Beane can make this happen, unless he is willing to let a whole bunch of defensive players walk next offseason... Fwiw, he should. It’s a gamble, but if it hits… Forget just this year.. Diggs-OBJ-Davis with Shakir going into next year is about as good as it gets. We haven’t done this type of roster maneuvering since becoming a contender, but take Oliver’s money to help offset some of an OBJ contract and trade him for a 2nd or 3rd. We can easily find a good 1T with that pick to go with Jones and Settle. Quote
Italian Bills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, DJB said: Oooooohhh another OBJ thread! Perhaps a new Edmunds thread is on the horizon as well Do you like more threads on midterm’s election ? Lot of sites on… in Italy also. Quote
clayboy54 Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Fwiw, he should. It’s a gamble, but if it hits… Forget just this year.. Diggs-OBJ-Davis with Shakir going into next year is about as good as it gets. We haven’t done this type of roster maneuvering since becoming a contender, but take Oliver’s money to help offset some of an OBJ contract and trade him for a 2nd or 3rd. We can easily find a good 1T with that pick to go with Jones and Settle. I now believe that a lot of the decisions on this will be made over the next 2-3 games. If the window is still open to be “all-in” then OBJ will be a Bill. If we drop a game or two, then all that is off the table for this year. You can mortgage some of the future with such a signing only if it reaps the reward of a Super Bowl. If it doesn’t work out, you will not have a second chance without a rebuild of sorts. This is the risk teams like the Rams took. You can see that it got them a ring, and now this. Maybe the Rams were extreme because they did it with multiple players. But, the same risk/reward applies to the Bills plans right now. So far, Beane hasn’t been willing to mortgage the future. Will he now? Quote
Nextmanup Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: I now believe that a lot of the decisions on this will be made over the next 2-3 games. If the window is still open to be “all-in” then OBJ will be a Bill. If we drop a game or two, then all that is off the table for this year. You can mortgage some of the future with such a signing only if it reaps the reward of a Super Bowl. If it doesn’t work out, you will not have a second chance without a rebuild of sorts. This is the risk teams like the Rams took. You can see that it got them a ring, and now this. Maybe the Rams were extreme because they did it with multiple players. But, the same risk/reward applies to the Bills plans right now. So far, Beane hasn’t been willing to mortgage the future. Will he now? I think we are probably already at that stage of choosing "all in" or not, and I think we should be "all in". And I would DEFINITELY handicap us a bit, going forward, in exchange for OBJ now. We're never going to have Josh as our QB AND this much supporting cast on this team again, b/c we won't be able to afford it. Strike the iron while it is hot! Quote
SCBills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: I now believe that a lot of the decisions on this will be made over the next 2-3 games. If the window is still open to be “all-in” then OBJ will be a Bill. If we drop a game or two, then all that is off the table for this year. You can mortgage some of the future with such a signing only if it reaps the reward of a Super Bowl. If it doesn’t work out, you will not have a second chance without a rebuild of sorts. This is the risk teams like the Rams took. You can see that it got them a ring, and now this. Maybe the Rams were extreme because they did it with multiple players. But, the same risk/reward applies to the Bills plans right now. So far, Beane hasn’t been willing to mortgage the future. Will he now? But we don’t even need to mortgage the future .. we just need to be more savvy with our moves. KC traded Hill and remained a contender. Pats moved off guys all the time during the Brady era. Letting Poyer walk and trading Oliver for a pick that we can use to draft a Top 100 player is how we can sign OBJ to a multi-year contract. If we have 4 Top 100 picks and no drastic need for a skill position .. go, in any order.. DT, S, OL, OL. These are the types of creative moves I do believe we’ll start seeing in the future. Or maybe… I hope to. Quote
clayboy54 Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: I think we are probably already at that stage of choosing "all in" or not, and I think we should be "all in". And I would DEFINITELY handicap us a bit, going forward, in exchange for OBJ now. We're never going to have Josh as our QB AND this much supporting cast on this team again, b/c we won't be able to afford it. Strike the iron while it is hot! I totally agree with you on this. But, if we continue to play sloppy, uninspired football over the next couple or few games like we did midseason last year, then I figure it’s a waste. Just let the current team play it out and see if we can overcome :13 on their own. Quote
Virgil Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Italian Bills said: I know there’s already a OBJ Thread opened, i’m sorry for this new one, Are you though? 1 1 Quote
clayboy54 Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: But we don’t even need to mortgage the future .. we just need to be more savvy with our moves. KC traded Hill and remained a contender. Pats moved off guys all the time during the Brady era. Letting Poyer walk and trading Oliver for a pick that we can use to draft a Top 100 player is how we can sign OBJ to a multi-year contract. If we have 4 Top 100 picks and no drastic need for a skill position .. go, in any order.. DT, S, OL, OL. These are the types of creative moves I do believe we’ll start seeing in the future. Or maybe… I hope to. I agree with you as well. However that is this next offseason. The OBJ question is this season. Do you take that plunge with an underperforming team? Lets hope they stop underperforming today. Quote
SCBills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, clayboy54 said: I agree with you as well. However that is this next offseason. The OBJ question is this season. Do you take that plunge with an underperforming team? Lets hope they stop underperforming today. Oh, this year … absolutely. Injuries have been killing this team. Healthy, they are loaded and OBJ provides exactly what they’ve been missing on Offense thus far. 1 Quote
Italian Bills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Virgil said: Are you though? Of course Virgil, i’m a true one. Quote
RunTheBall Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 At this point I wouldn’t mind using Oliver money to snag OBJ if that’s what would do it. Now’s the time to go all in. We could draft another DL in the mid rounds and get the same amount of production we’ve seen from Ed. Unless these coaches really feel he’s about to break out but it’s year 4, we’ve heard the same thing about Edmunds but at least Edmunds has stepped up a little this year. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, DJB said: Oooooohhh another OBJ thread! Perhaps a new Edmunds thread is on the horizon as well Since you mentioned it I think it’s time we finally talk about it. Some people don’t think he is very good at linebacker 1 Quote
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