Josh Rosen Cut

[Albany,n.y.]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Up until last month I was ready to take on all comers who wished to debate me over my proposition: that time has proved that EJ Manuel was, in fact, the best QB available in the 2013 draft. 
I stand corrected. All we needed was Geno + 9 years of patience, thereby depriving Buddy Nix of his one claim to Bills draft fame. 

Todd Collins had a great month of December in his 13th season, proving the late John Butler correct.  Collins is about the only player with a similar career path to Geno Smith that I can recall, but it only lasted one month.  However it was one heck of a month!    

[bobobonators]

20 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

You liked the pick.  You said he had the most upside of anyone.  Then you added to your prophecy and sung Lamar’s praises.  You should have stopped there because then you wished Allen would be the next Carson Wentz.

All i care about was I hit on Allen. I did not like Rosen at all. And yes, im glad Allen surpassed Wentz in like his second season in the league. Lol. Hahah. Fun times. 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Todd Collins had a great month of December in his 13th season, proving the late John Butler correct.  Collins is about the only player with a similar career path to Geno Smith that I can recall, but it only lasted one month.  However it was one heck of a month!    

Thanks. I had forgotten about that. People often mention Rich Gannon as a late bloomer, which is true in that his best seasons (by far) came in his mid-30s, but he did have some modestly effective seasons with the Vikings long before that. Whereas Geno was pretty much trash until this season. I keep waiting for the bubble to burst, but …

[Steptide]

8 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Go Back and watch a few games of Az that year. Rosen was awful. He was like Peterman with a slightly better arm. No anticipation, no big throws, no pocket awareness. Dude was horrendous. The fact there was a debate if they keep him or draft Murray is laughable

Well, obviously Arizona made the right decision getting murray, but I still think had the bills drafted Rosen, he would've had more success here. Doesn't mean he would've had the success that Josh is currently having, but I think there's something to be said about poor coaching and poorly run organizations 

[Albany,n.y.]

1 minute ago, Steptide said:

Well, obviously Arizona made the right decision getting murray, but I still think had the bills drafted Rosen, he would've had more success here. Doesn't mean he would've had the success that Josh is currently having, but I think there's something to be said about poor coaching and poorly run organizations 

I think Arizona, who saw him every day in practice & games for an entire season knew Rosen was a bust & did the right thing for their organization by admitting they made a mistake & still got something in return before his trade value dropped to zero.  Most GMs won't admit a mistake that quickly on a top 10 pick who they traded up for and it ultimately costs them their jobs.  Keim saved his job getting rid of Rosen so fast.  In fact, of all the GMs who drafted QBs in the 1st round of 2018, only Beane & Keim are still on the job with their team (Ozzie Newsome, who I consider the best GM of his generation, retired after drafting Lamar Jackson, proving that you can draft a QB in the year you're retiring and set the franchise up for years, unlike how Buddy Nix left the Bills).

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

Well, obviously Arizona made the right decision getting murray, but I still think had the bills drafted Rosen, he would've had more success here. Doesn't mean he would've had the success that Josh is currently having, but I think there's something to be said about poor coaching and poorly run organizations 

I don't. He had chances with good organizations and did nothing. He couldnt beat out Blaine Gabbert. He went to San Fran and was cut. He couldnt beat out Josh Dobbs in Cleveland. Dude is terrible

[ArtVandalay]

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Remember those comments? Lol

[Dibs]

Two Josh's are better than one. That's simple math that is. 🧐