Week 6: Bills at CHIEFS 10/16 4:25pm

[BigAl2526]

On 10/10/2022 at 6:22 PM, Bills2022 said:

 

Injuries mean nothing unless it is the QB.  I factor in a bad game or two. Math still is the same.  The winner will have a 2 game lead over the other.  It is nearly impossible to make up two games on either team.  These teams are miles ahead of everyone else. 

Ergo, injuries must have meant nothing in the Bills' loss to Miami a few weeks ago.  If injuries meant nothing, then either, the heat an humidity was enough to cause the Bills' loss or Miami is a better team.  I'm not buying it.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

In a word:

No.

 

He's right on pace for where he was last season.  6-7 receptions per game, 70 Y/G

 

 

Who are these Bills CB who are going to excel at press man coverage vs. Kelce?

 

Dane Jackson can not play press man.

 

Tre White can play press man, he is not gonna play.

 

Elam may be able to play press man against KC eventually.  He was drafted to provide that ability with the hope he could develop into a quality off ball corner.  But right now, if you put Elam alone on Kelce I think Kelce will shake him off like your pesky 7 year old sister.

 

Possibly Elam on Kelce and hopefully Jordan Poyer helps him out if he plays. Really want Poyer in this game badly if healthy.

Edited October 13, 2022 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[sonyab1974]

31 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Go Bills.... Can't wait for the weekend.

 

Me neither!!! GO BILLS!

 

31 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

  Damn, I am so not into my job today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

😂😂 You better pay attention to work! What do you do?

 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

Could be a break for us.  Clark has looked much better this year than he did last year...

 

Hopefully we don't have 15 guys limited today again setting up us worrying up til kickoff on whether they are playing or not

[PrimeTime101]

looks like KC will be starting 2 rookie CB. now the game is evened up

[ColoradoBills]

18 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Question: who are the backup gunners?

 

I'm not sure, thus my statement.  Remember both Kumerow and Jones are indispensable on special teams, or so it's been said.

To be honest, it was a half joke.

[buffblue]

No Poyer or Edmunds for the 2nd consecutive day today. We really need one or both against the Chiefs. Poyer especially needs to be out there with a bye upcoming and the schedule lightening in the 2nd half. 

 

This is not the game to be conservative with relatively minor injuries

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I'm not sure, thus my statement.  Remember both Kumerow and Jones are indispensable on special teams, or so it's been said.

To be honest, it was a half joke.

 

I think it's a good question.

[FilthyBeast]

1 hour ago, Playoffs? said:

Ok… so you’re a Chiefs fan, or Dolphins fan.. which one is it?

 

Mahomes was more polished and sat an entire season.  He has had incredible weapons since day one, and perhaps the most innovative offensive minded coach we’ve seen. Not taking anything away from Mahomes, but you must be kidding to call it ‘varying degrees of talent around him.’
 

Allen was widely regarded as project QB. He shouldn’t have seen the field in year one, yet he did. And for his first couple seasons, he had trash for talent around him. While the Bills have boosted their talent around Allen, they still have some significant flaws… yet Allen is the one that seems to put the team on his back despite it all. 
 

If the Bills lose on Sunday, it’s one loss, they’ll be fine, and it means nothing more than what the media will hype it up to be. There will be 2/3 of the season remaining after this game. Literally anything can happen. The Chiefs lost to us last season early. How did that play out for them afterward?

 

Gotta keep things in perspective. 

 

I'm not disputing what Mahomes walked into vs Allen, my point is that he's been great from day one and the only reason he didn't start out of the gate as a rookie is because Alex Smith had a ridiculously good season and best of his career in 2017.

 

Mahomes has also been to 4 straight AFC Championships, 2 SB's, and one championship. They certainly didn't have anything close to the Bills on defense the entire time he's been there.

 

Also disagree about the magnitude of this game on Sunday, I do believe that if the Chiefs win they are well on thier way to a unprecedented 5th straight AFC championship game at home. Which means the chances of the Bills getting a SB decreases exponentially.  If the Bills are going to change the course of history and whatever destiny lies ahead for Mahomes it starts this Sunday. They have to force this guy to at least play one road playoff game for the first time in his career.

[WideNine]

27 minutes ago, sonyab1974 said:

 

Me neither!!! GO BILLS!

 

 

😂😂 You better pay attention to work! What do you do?

 

 

Running a project for a Healthcare company, but struggling to focus.

 

Usually can firewall off my Bills to a safe place, but I have been looking forward to this rematch since the 13 seconds debacle.

 

 

 

 

 

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, buffblue said:

No Poyer or Edmunds for the 2nd consecutive day today. We really need one or both against the Chiefs. Poyer especially needs to be out there with a bye upcoming and the schedule lightening in the 2nd half.

 

Huh?  Both Poyer and Edmunds practiced yesterday, and we don't have the list yet today.  Where are you getting this?

[YoloinOhio]

 

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think it's a good question.

 

My guess it's two of the following.

Neal

J. Johnson

Hamlin

Lewis

 

[RichRiderBills]

Butker is a good K but I love the notion of a beat up K.

[Warriorspikes51]

9 minutes ago, buffblue said:

No Poyer or Edmunds for the 2nd consecutive day today. We really need one or both against the Chiefs. Poyer especially needs to be out there with a bye upcoming and the schedule lightening in the 2nd half. 

 

This is not the game to be conservative with relatively minor injuries

Huh? They both practiced per Sal

[RichRiderBills]

6 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Huh?  Both Poyer and Edmunds practiced yesterday, and we don't have the list yet today.  Where are you getting this?

 

Yes, his info is not accurate.

Edited October 13, 2022 by RichRiderBills

[Beck Water]

13 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'm not disputing what Mahomes walked into vs Allen, my point is that he's been great from day one and the only reason he didn't start out of the gate as a rookie is because Alex Smith had a ridiculously good season and best of his career in 2017.

 

Um, Nope.  This has been discussed here multiple times.  A number of Chiefs players have commented on this, how Mahomes was not ready at all as a rookie (though he showed flashes) and how he improved between Season 1 and Season 2.

 

13 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Mahomes has also been to 4 straight AFC Championships, 2 SB's, and one championship. They certainly didn't have anything close to the Bills on defense the entire time he's been there.

 

During Reid's 10-year tenure as KC HC, the Chiefs have had a top-10 defense 7 of those 10 years. 

 

During the 5 years Mahomes has played, they have had a top-10 defense every year but his first (and so far, this season).  Part of that is when you're the #1 scoring offense (his 1st season and so far this season) and score quickly, the D has can go into prevent mode and give up "meaningless" points and there isn't a lot of pressure on them to choke down on every drive.

 

But Spagnuolo knows something and the Chiefs do not neglect stocking their D personnel.

 

Now, back to your regularly scheduled whatever-you-call-it.

 

7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

My guess it's two of the following.

Neal

J. Johnson

Hamlin

Lewis

 

Jaquon J. has a pretty defined role as the 'personal protector' on punting team.  Don't want him gunning when he's starting at safety, either.

 

How fast is Hamlin?  I didn't think he was very fast but can't find a 40 time.  Also if he's the starting safety, "do one thing well".

 

Neal could be one of them.  McKenzie says he's the fastest guy on the Bills team.

 

 

Edited October 13, 2022 by Beck Water

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

Um, Nope.  This has been discussed here multiple times.  A number of Chiefs players have commented on this, how Mahomes was not ready at all as a rookie (though he showed flashes) and how he improved between Season 1 and Season 2.

 

 

During Reid's 10-year tenure as KC HC, the Chiefs have had a top-10 defense 7 of those 10 years. 

During the 5 years Mahomes has played, they have had a top-10 defense every year but his first (and so far, this season).  Part of that is when you're the #1 scoring offense (his 1st season and so far this season) and score quickly, the D has can go into prevent mode and give up "meaningless" points.

 

Now, back to your regularly scheduled whatever-you-call-it.

 

And the Bills have also had a top 10 defense every year under McD/Frazier including last year and how did that turn out? A blowout loss at Arrowhead in the AFCCG is McD/Allen's career achievement, why haven't they been able to do what Mahomes and Reid have under similar circumstances?

[freddyjj]

4 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

Elam got picked on the last game & gave up a lot of completions. Athletics all 22 breakdown said it stood out in film & showed Elam was not quick enough to change his direction & keep up on come back routes. KC is sure to pick up on this & while we played more man last week than we will against KC, Mahomes will be better than Pickett at exploiting Elam. He could be the Achilles heal for this game defensively. 

Good points D&D!  See  https://www.pff.com/news/week-5-man-and-zone-rates-week-6-predictions

 

We played man 22% of time vs the Steelers and 23% vs Ravens.  Against Rams and Dolphins, with scarier WR corps, we played man <10% of time.  The attached says Chiefs face man D almost half the time.  Can't see Bills doing this as the Bills only play man 14% of time on average.  

[TH3]

3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

And the Bills have also had a top 10 defense every year under McD/Frazier including last year and how did that turn out? A blowout loss at Arrowhead in the AFCCG is McD/Allen's career achievement, why haven't they been able to do what Mahomes and Reid have under similar circumstances?

Bills are not as good as the Chiefs …never were and never will be…