Taro Nimbus Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Bills had Moss inactive for todays game. Possibly to keep him healthy for a potential CMC trade? 🤔 2 Quote
NoSaint Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Dude...the fact you are in here railing on Singletary who had a great game today just announces to the whole board you have nothing to say and only care about pushing a bias agenda regardless of the facts of what just happened on the field. Josh Allen GUSHED about Devin in the post game presser too and how important he is out there on the field. But hey, keep going with a misguided rant towards a guy who played great today just to serve your desire to be right about him. let’s not get carried away the opposite direction It’s not dire to replace the guy but he certainly has room to be upgraded too. We can debate the costs but we aren’t a better group of 11 with DS instead of CMC 2 Quote
JerseyBills Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Been screaming to feed Motor and sprinkle in Cook. Np reason to take on that contract when 26 can produce like this Quote
NoSaint Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I find it hilarious when people who have an agenda against one player will go find one play to hang their hat on while ignoring all the other great plays they made. Every player on every team in every game for all of NFL history has plays where they didn't get the job done on some specific play. It's about what they did as a whole. And he had a great game. Period. im not staking my position with Chan. He had a decent game. But he missed that near tragic goal line block for Josh. He should’ve had that outside short yardage run too. he left more than one play out there. 2 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: let’s not get carried away the opposite direction It’s not dire to replace the guy but he certainly has room to be upgraded too. We can debate the costs but we aren’t a better group of 11 with DS instead of CMC Im not saying CMC isn't an upgrade...I am only calling someone out dumping on a guy who played very well today just to serve his bias agenda. Never said we can't upgrade from Devin...I just defend him when someone is clearly negatively grossly over exaggerating him. I do the same for all our players when someone dumps on them after a good game and a win. Quote
NoSaint Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: Been screaming to feed Motor and sprinkle in Cook. Np reason to take on that contract when 26 can produce like this If treated as a one year rental, he’s actually cheaper than singletary. like the bills would save cap space this year to trade DS for CMC the price of that draft pick would hurt more though Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 8 hours ago, HappyDays said: The problem with YOUR argument is that you're comparing two totally offenses. They don't care if he catches it and plows forward for maybe 5 yards. With the impossible prospect of stopping Allen and our weapons, defenses are looking for any blade of grass they don't have to cover, and right now the one occupied by the RBs is an easy area to concede. Add McCaffrey with his speed and elusiveness and route running ability and it becomes a whole different ball game. I don't care about out of context stats. Anyone watching the games knows that McCaffrey is a dynamic athlete with elite traits, and Singletary is just a guy. And we don't need to revolve the offense around McCaffrey. Trading for him isn't about changing the offense to be run-first, it's about maximizing opportunities when they're there. Some of the holes that Singletary turns into 10-15 yard gains, McCaffrey could possibly turn into TDs. Some of the check downs where Singletary turns 1st and 10 into 2nd and 5, McCaffrey turns those into 10+ yard gains. I'll say it again - it's a no brainer to add a player of that caliber to this offense. Nah. It just doesn't ACTUALLY work out that a great offense adds a RB and the player suddenly becomes much better. That's "on paper" thinking that doesn't regularly translate onto the field. If it did, then good teams would be regularly trading second round picks for big name RB's from the struggling, dumb teams that used first round picks on them. 1 Quote
boyst Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, BigDingus said: This game highlighted once again that CMC would not fix the glaring short yardage problem. Run blocking was improved this week, but CMC doesn't help improve that area. Still would trade him for a 5th and Moss 1 1 Quote
wolfpack78 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 After the win tonight I want the Bills to make a couple 'all in' moves over the break. Hoping we can trade a 3rd plus Moss for CMC and upgrade the Guard position with a 5th rounder (the one we got for Ford) or a 4th. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: im not staking my position with Chan. He had a decent game. But he missed that near tragic goal line block for Josh. He should’ve had that outside short yardage run too. he left more than one play out there. We don't know where Devin was "supposed to go" on that Allen run on the audible. Its easy to say post snap where, but we do not know what the pre snap call was. So not really fair to put it on Devin if you don't know that Devin even made a mistake. Allen gushed about Devin in his post game presser too. And Devin made a lot of important plays for us today, and that is both from watching the game and listening to Josh give him high praise today. Quote
BUFFALOTONE Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Motor was fantastic today, moved chains and got tough yards. He’s a gem in this offense. KC RBs had me worried going into this game but Motor outshined them all. Great W Bills fans. Quote
Jerboski Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: Bills had Moss inactive for todays game. Possibly to keep him healthy for a potential CMC trade? 🤔 Was curious about that Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 When are some of you going to understand Moss has NO TRADE VALUE. Didn't the fact he was inactive give you a clue? 15 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: Bills had Moss inactive for todays game. Possibly to keep him healthy for a potential CMC trade? 🤔 He was inactive because he's worthless. Everyone in the league knows that. 1 1 Quote
ghostwriter Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Give Singletary the ball and he makes plays. I’m about as big a Singletary fan as you could possibly get. He’s not flashy, he’s not elite, but he’s good, he’s reliable, he’s steady and he has room to grow as a pass catcher, but in no way would I deny that CMC would be an upgrade over him and if we could get him by throwing in Moss I would say no in no way. DS, CMC and Cook is an elite backfield. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, NoSaint said: let’s not get carried away the opposite direction It’s not dire to replace the guy but he certainly has room to be upgraded too. We can debate the costs but we aren’t a better group of 11 with DS instead of CMC I mean........the running back IS the LEAST important player of those 11 though. @GunnerBill said it and I'm doubling and tripling down on that sentiment. So let's not get carried away with how much better it makes you as a team to improve your RB position by a quarter of a yard per touch. If this weren't the case then the last 20+ years wouldn't have been so hard on teams that put a high priority on the value of their RB's. 2 1 Quote
HerdMentality Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, NoSaint said: im not staking my position with Chan. He had a decent game. But he missed that near tragic goal line block for Josh. He should’ve had that outside short yardage run too. he left more than one play out there. He could’ve actually got the first down on the play before… if he would’ve just dived inside. Instead he deked and tried to turn outside running into a tackle. Good game, but several small but almost critical errors. Edited October 17, 2022 by HerdMentality Quote
Turbo44 Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Still would trade him for a 5th and Moss as would everybody else in the world other than CAR. They said today they'd entertain a trade if multiple 1sts were involved. Game over if true 1 Quote
FireChans Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I find it hilarious when people who have an agenda against one player will go find one play to hang their hat on while ignoring all the other great plays they made. Every player on every team in every game for all of NFL history has plays where they didn't get the job done on some specific play. It's about what they did as a whole. And he had a great game. Period. He lacks the burst and speed to make routine plays that many other players in the NFL can make. He cannot beat other players to the edge, which limits him as a player. 16 minutes ago, NoSaint said: im not staking my position with Chan. He had a decent game. But he missed that near tragic goal line block for Josh. He should’ve had that outside short yardage run too. he left more than one play out there. The water is warm my friend. 3 1 Quote
Malazan Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 Again, give me a right tackle over CMC 1 Quote
FireChans Posted October 17, 2022 Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I mean........the running back IS the LEAST important player of those 11 though. @GunnerBill said it and I'm doubling and tripling down on that sentiment. So let's not get carried away with how much better it makes you as a team to improve your RB position by a quarter of a yard per touch. If this weren't the case then the last 20+ years wouldn't have been so hard on teams that put a high priority on the value of their RB's. If I had to rank it in my own head, an addition of someone like OBJ is infinitely more valuable and I would bang on the table much harder for him if it was possible. If it’s “add noone or add CMC,” then I lean to add CMC Quote
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