Christian McCaffrey rumors

[Scott7975]

53 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

This is where you lose me. I think this is honestly an insane thing to say. You're basically saying McCaffrey isn't a better RB than Singletary.

 

 

The swap of pick 31 for pick 33 is more than cancelled out by Carolina's 4th rounder. So this trade is badically Moss for McCaffrey. I would support that! Not sure Carolina would.

 

 

No Im not saying that at all.  What you neglect is how important the oline is to ANYONES running game.  Our oline is the worst run blocking oline in the league and Singletary has better YPA than McCaffrey does.  Trade of this would have to be a huge difference.  Im saying a huge difference isnt going to happen.  You think by trading for him he is going to get like 10+ yard runs everytime he touches the ball or something?  Its not going to happen.

 

This is going to be a 100 page thread for a trade thats not likely to happen.

Edited October 16, 2022 by Scott7975

[Billz4ever]

14 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

We could actually do whatever we want with him... We don't have to force our offense to revolve around him or give him a certain number of touches per game. I wouldn't expect our entire offensive philosophy to change. He just gives us another element to use in our already elite offense. One more thing for defenses to account for.

 

At his peak McCaffrey is a game changer. It's a no brainer to add another game changer to our offense for a reasonable price. I would still add OBJ in December too. Imagine the team we've seen so far this year but with Tre White, Christian McCaffrey, and OBJ added in... It's not often that you have a realistic chance to make Madden-esque improvements to your team like that. Leave no room for doubt that the Lombardi is ours for the taking.

 

LMAO, now we're getting OBJ and CMC?  

 

Cap?  What cap?

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

LMAO, now we're getting OBJ and CMC?  

 

Cap?  What cap?

 

Would probably cost us a total of $1.5 million this year to have both of them.

[Airseven]

Bills fans are the only people on the planet who think another NFL team would want, and actually trade something for, Zack Moss.

[Billz4ever]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Would probably cost us a total of $1.5 million this year to have both of them.

And how on earth do you think OBJ is going to sign for that?

[Dopey]

6 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

While teams do run different schemes, Nickel is the base for every team in the league now and has been for awhile. The Bills are a bit unusual in that they play Nickel (4-2-5) almost exclusively. But that’s because of Tauron Johnson and his ability to play the run so well, not because of Edmunds. 

Johnson is good, but my point was comparing how we use Edmunds vs how smith is used. I don’t think smith would do the job Edmunds does here as effectively. I think it would be a mistake to replace Edmunds with smith and expect the same play. We would miss our defensive qb. 

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:

And how on earth do you think OBJ is going to sign for that?

 

Maybe I'm underrating what his cost will be but he'll only get paid for a quarter of the season. Coming off his 2nd ACL tear late in the season and chasing production plus a ring so that he can leverage himself for a big contract in the offseason. He'll be affordable, guaranteed.

[Billz4ever]

1 hour ago, Boyst62 said:

I'd consider:

 

1st round + Zach Moss

 

FOR

 

CMC + Carolina 2nd round + 2024 Carolina 4th round 

Nobody wants Moss.  Most of us think he sucks.  Why would we think another team would want him then?

[Big Turk]

Carolina must be smoking crack to think anyone is giving up multiple firsts for an oft injured RB

[Billz4ever]

2 hours ago, Process said:

Bahahahahahah

 

I'll trade our next two firsts for McCaffrey and their next two firsts.

 

Deal?

 

 

And sadly, there are people here that would do it too.

13 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

What I'm saying is get him on the team this year for $600,000 and then work out what you need to work out for another few years. Maybe some kind of reworked deal of some kind. But my point wad just get him on the team now, worry about the rest later

Dude, if you are trying to say Nick Chubb would be no better than Devin Singletary in our offense you are insane

Yeah, instead of no gain, he'd get a yard, maybe 2.  If you're trying to say running backs have a high chance at success without at least competent run blocking, you're insane.

 

[Billz4ever]

15 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

My point is we pass to our running backs a lot.  Fifth most targets in the league (44 targets) and tenth in passing target percentage (22.3%).  The best argument I can think of for bringing in CMC if we're throwing that much to our RB's then we mine as well have the best passing catching running back in the league at are disposal.  Even if he won't help our running production whatsoever because people think it's purely an o-line issue then there's still some value in trading for him because of his pass catching ability.

 

BTW, we barely ever throw to our tight ends as we rank 31st percentage wise (13.2%, 26 targets overall).  

And we drafted James Cook for that exact reason. How we are now wanting to spend high draft picks to bring in a guy that's injury prone and past him prime IMO to catch passes?

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

So Carolina knows it's just the Bills and Chiefs interested - so picks 29-31.  They want a higher pick or more of them.

 

 

Probably want our 1st, and a 1st in 2024.

 

They would have to give us their 2024 2nd RD for me to even consider that.   

 

 

To Carolina:

 

2023 and 2024 1st RD picks

 

To Bills: 

 

CMC

2024 2nd RD pick (pick 33-38?)

 

 

As much as Beane likes him, I don't think he's that stupid.

[JDubya76]

16 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

And sadly, there are people here that would do it too.

You might want to re-read that post. 
 

trade our first two for their first two and CMC. I’d do that all day long.

 

Edited October 16, 2022 by JDubya76

[Billz4ever]

36 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Maybe I'm underrating what his cost will be but he'll only get paid for a quarter of the season. Coming off his 2nd ACL tear late in the season and chasing production plus a ring so that he can leverage himself for a big contract in the offseason. He'll be affordable, guaranteed.

I'm happy where our receiver core is with Diggs, Gabe, Shakir, and McK.

4 minutes ago, JDubya76 said:

You might want to re-read that post. 
 

trade our first two for their first two and CMC. I’d do that all day long.

 

The way I read it is they would want our first round this coming year and next year.   No way.

Edited October 16, 2022 by Billz4ever

[Scott7975]

Ill say it again... we do not need to waste assets on CMC.  We need an oline that can block.

[NeverOutNick]

Singletary is a baller I’m not giving much up for CMC. Max id do is James Cook and a second rounder next year

[BillsFanForever19]

Just now, NeverOutNick said:

Singletary is a baller I’m not giving much up for CMC. Max id do is James Cook and a second rounder next year

 

You're not giving up on a guy you spent a 2nd Round pick on and have under a cost controlled rookie contract after 6 games. That's insanity.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, NeverOutNick said:

Singletary is a baller I’m not giving much up for CMC. Max id do is James Cook and a second rounder next year

Singletary is INCAPABLE of beating defenders to the edge. He should have scored before the McKenzie spasm on 4th down. TJ Yeldon would have scored there. Wide open hole.

[Draconator]

Just now, FireChans said:

Singletary is INCAPABLE of beating defenders to the edge. He should have scored before the McKenzie spasm on 4th down. TJ Yeldon would have scored there. Wide open hole.

You're incapable of any coherent thought. 

[FireChans]

Just now, Draconator said:

You're incapable of any coherent thought. 

Bills won so Singletary is good now is a bad take.

[mikemac2001]

Just now, FireChans said:

Singletary is INCAPABLE of beating defenders to the edge. He should have scored before the McKenzie spasm on 4th down. TJ Yeldon would have scored there. Wide open hole.

Ya I like him but he is a solid 1b he problem he doesn’t scare defenses but I wouldn’t trade him in a CMC deal