Warcodered Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Trading Singletarry for CMC doesn't make a lot of sense, why would Carolina trade for RB who'd be FA in a year, and why would we trade the RB that works in our offense the best currently. 1 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 4:52 PM, Billz4ever said: LMAO, so you're giving up Elam, Shakir (5th round, but you get the point), and Moss for an injury prone back that will still be running behind the statistically worst run blocking line in the league? Expand Yes everyday of the week with the team we have We have a legit shot at the Superbowl, you take that shot The bills don't run the ball much and use their short passing game as their run game Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 4:53 PM, NewEra said: Especially considering CMC is always broken. If we trade for him, keeping Motor is mandatory. Until he breaks. Then we’d have Duke and Cook. 🤮 You’re nutso Expand Duke is Motor, IMO. May even have a better burst Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) On 10/13/2022 at 4:59 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: Yes everyday of the week with the team we have We have a legit shot at the Superbowl, you take that shot The bills don't run the ball much and use their short passing game as their run game Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? Expand Still not worth a 1st round pick in any metric. If Carolina does move him, I can guarantee you it ain't for a 1st round pick. I don't think there's any team in the league right now that's so desperate for a RB, they would be willing to part with a 1st rounder. You are severely undervaluing what a first-round pick actually is. Edited October 13, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 4:56 PM, Warcodered said: Trading Singletarry for CMC doesn't make a lot of sense, why would Carolina trade for RB who'd be FA in a year, and why would we trade the RB that works in our offense the best currently. Expand I believe Dorsey and Co wanted a more dynamic RB in his offense and thought Cook was that guy. Cook’s not ready yet. CMC is that guy On 10/13/2022 at 4:59 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? Expand With the ability to take it to the house 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:04 PM, Solomon Grundy said: I believe Dorsey and Co wanted a more dynamic RB in his offense and thought Cook was that guy. Cook’s not ready yet. CMC is that guy With the ability to take it to the house Expand who has a history of injuries and does not warrant 1st round pick compensation. Quote
Lost Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 4:59 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: Is CMC not an elite pass catching back? Expand Was an elite passing back. We don't know what he is anymore because he's barely on the field. Singletary is pretty darn good as a receiving back when we utilize him that way, look at the Miami game. On 10/13/2022 at 4:49 PM, Solomon Grundy said: CMC would make this offense the most multi-dimensional, most explosive team since the Greatest Show on Turf. Expand You're basing this assumption off of the one great season McCaffrey has had. We're only multi-dimensional when he's on the field which isn't very much as of late. Don't get me wrong, I wouldnt mind trying him out in our offense if we could trade moss and a 4th rd pick at most but I can't imagine a world where Carolina would go for that. Also McC is gonna want a payday based on his one great season and there's no way the bills are resigning him. Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:02 PM, Billz4ever said: Still not worth a 1st round pick in any metric. If Carolina does move him, I can guarantee you it ain't for a 1st round pick. I don't think there's any team in the league right now that's so desperate for a RB, they would be willing to part with a 1st rounder. You are severely undervaluing what a first-round pick actually is. Expand Losing a first hurts but it's a future and if it means an even better shot at a super bowl I would take it and not think twice The bills have probably the best team in football, if I can add someone with the talent of CMC without giving up any contributors to the current team(moss is very replaceable) and only futures. I'm in Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:08 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: Losing a first hurts but it's a future and if it means an even better shot at a super bowl I would take it and not think twice The bills have probably the best team in football, if I can add someone with the talent of CMC without giving up any contributors to the current team(moss is very replaceable) and only futures. I'm in Expand Giving up a 1st round pick for an injury prone back isn't happening and I'm sure Beane agrees considering he's all about "value". Not to mention, we can't afford him. We are already a projected $7.5M over the cap next year and that's before even signing any of our own big FA's. Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:07 PM, Lost said: Was an elite passing back. We don't know what he is anymore because he's barely on the field. Singletary is pretty darn good as a receiving back when we utilize him that way, look at the Miami game. Expand Which is why I wouldn't trade singletary in any deal for cmc I'm willing to push everything all in for a shot at the super bowl We will see if beane is too Quote
NewEra Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:01 PM, Solomon Grundy said: Duke is Motor, IMO. May even have a better burst Expand sure, in your opinion. Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:18 PM, Billz4ever said: Giving up a 1st round pick for an injury prone back isn't happening and I'm sure Beane agrees considering he's all about "value". Not to mention, we can't afford him. We are already a projected $7.5M over the cap next year and that's before even signing any of our own big FA's. Expand So cap issues are coming, this might be the bills best shot at a championship, just gives me more reason to take a chance now 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) On 10/13/2022 at 5:30 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: So cap issues are coming, this might be the bills best shot at a championship, just gives me more reason to take a chance now Expand Wait, you're willing to put us in cap hell for the CHANCE to win now? CMC would guarantee nothing and there would still be the possibility we don't win the SB and then are still in cap hell all for nothing AND minus a first round pick. Yeah, umm...No. Edited October 13, 2022 by Billz4ever Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) On 10/13/2022 at 5:33 PM, Billz4ever said: Wait, you're willing to put us in cap hell for the CHANCE to win now? CMC would guarantee nothing and there would still be the possibility we don't win the SB and then are still in cap hell all for nothing. Yeah, umm...No. Expand According to your post you said the bills are already projected 7.5 million over the cap So aren't cap troubles coming either way? One way increases the super bowl odds this season the other doesn't do a thing Plus the cap isn't real, look at what the saints and Steelers did for years while rothlesberger and brees played Edited October 13, 2022 by Cheektowaga Chad Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:36 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said: According to your post you said the bills are already projected 7.5 million over the cap So aren't cap troubles coming either way? One way increases the super bowl odds this season the other doesn't do a thing Expand LMAO, we're projected to be $7.5M over before even signing any of our own FA's and your solution is to add a dude owed almost $12M in base salary next year? You apparently don't want to re-sign any of our FA's. That or you're just real bad at math. So who are you cutting to get us under the cap and pay CMC? 1 2 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:41 PM, Billz4ever said: LMAO, we're projected to be $7.5M over before even signing any of our own FA's and your solution is to add a dude owed almost $12M in base salary next year? You apparently don't want to re-sign any of our FA's. That or you're just real bad at math. So who are you cutting to get us under the cap and pay CMC? Expand Do you actually know cmc's contract details? 1 mil this year, the rest going forward non guaranteed. Easy restructure or cut and move on with zero harm to anyone else going forward 5 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 4:53 PM, NewEra said: Especially considering CMC is always broken. If we trade for him, keeping Motor is mandatory. Until he breaks. Then we’d have Duke and Cook. 🤮 You’re nutso Expand Agree…for once Quote
Pabstblueribbon Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 4:56 PM, Warcodered said: Trading Singletarry for CMC doesn't make a lot of sense, why would Carolina trade for RB who'd be FA in a year, and why would we trade the RB that works in our offense the best currently. Expand I don't know what Carolina would have to gain from taking Motor, but in the hypothetical situation where we get cmc we can't have both him and Singletary next season. Moss can operate as a starting back with Cook sprinkled in if cmc goes down. Quote
H2o Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 6:02 PM, Pabstblueribbon said: I don't know what Carolina would have to gain from taking Motor, but in the hypothetical situation where we get cmc we can't have both him and Singletary next season. Moss can operate as a starting back with Cook sprinkled in if cmc goes down. Expand 1 4 Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 6:09 PM, H2o said: Expand Scary thought, eh? Quote
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