Big Turk Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Watching the reverse angle on that play and Allen is pretty close to being sacked for a safety due to Saffold going to double team nobody and leaving a guy in front of him with a clear path to the QB. Now, granted, this could have been how they decide to block it up because Bates has nobody to block(the Steeler player in front of him doesn't rush and kind of just stands there and Morse ends up sort of coming off his block to get a piece of that defender, but it was more like he steered the Pittsburgh defender he was blocking into the way of the other guy and bumped him off course. That defender actually gets a hit on Allen on the play but it doesn't matter because...well Josh Allen is freaking Josh Allen. Just seems really weird to block it up like that when Dawkins had his man stonewalled...I would have to think Saffold was supposed to block the dude that hit Allen on that play?? @HoofHearted any thoughts? Edited October 10, 2022 by Big Turk 3 1 1 3 Quote
FireChans Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) Roger Saffold flat out SUCKS. may be the worst player on offense Edited October 10, 2022 by FireChans 4 1 4 Quote
Kwai San Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 No doubt he could be MUCH much better.......ugh! Quote
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 They need to put Bates back to LG where he belongs and have Quessenberry start at RG. Instant upgrade at 2 positions without having to make a trade. 7 1 1 Quote
WideNine Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: Watching the reverse angle on that play and Allen is pretty close to being sacked for a safety due to Saffold going to double team nobody and leaving a guy in front of him with a clear path to the QB. Now, granted, this could have been how they decide to block it up because Bates has nobody to block(the Steeler player in front of him doesn't rush and kid of just stands there and Morse ends up sort of coming off his block to get a piece of that defender, but it was more like he steered the Pittsburgh defender he was blocking into the way of the other guy and bumped him off course. That defender actually gets a hit on Allen on the play but it doesn't matter because...well Josh Allen is freaking Josh Allen. Just seems really weird to block it up like that when Dawkins had his man stonewalled...I would have to think Saffold was supposed to block the dude that hit Allen on that play?? @HoofHearted any thoughts? Looks like a delayed blitz. Peeburgh does that a lot. Without a man in front of him Saffold tries to help out Dawkins. Not sure if the protection scheme is designed that way or just a bad adjustment by Saffold or another OL player. Edited October 10, 2022 by WideNine 5 4 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) It seems to be Minkah has a read on that play. If Saffold stays focused on him, Minkahdoesn't go. Saffold didn't see Minkah coming on a blitz and then turns to help out Dawkins. Once Minkah sees him move towards Dawkins, he then goes. Allen has pretty good protection most of the day yesterday. Edited October 10, 2022 by Royale with Cheese 2 2 Quote
extrahammer Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Just seems really weird to block it up like that when Dawkins had his man stonewalled...I would have to think Saffold was supposed to block the dude that hit Allen on that play?? @HoofHearted any thoughts? This is why I'm glad we have coaches and not fans running the team. 3 2 2 1 4 1 Quote
HoofHearted Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Watching the reverse angle on that play and Allen is pretty close to being sacked for a safety due to Saffold going to double team nobody and leaving a guy in front of him with a clear path to the QB. Now, granted, this could have been how they decide to block it up because Bates has nobody to block(the Steeler player in front of him doesn't rush and kid of just stands there and Morse ends up sort of coming off his block to get a piece of that defender, but it was more like he steered the Pittsburgh defender he was blocking into the way of the other guy and bumped him off course. That defender actually gets a hit on Allen on the play but it doesn't matter because...well Josh Allen is freaking Josh Allen. Just seems really weird to block it up like that when Dawkins had his man stonewalled...I would have to think Saffold was supposed to block the dude that hit Allen on that play?? @HoofHearted any thoughts? It's a half slide protection. Basically you lock the backside tackle (RT) and every other Offensive Lineman is responsible for the gap to their left. The Backs will insert backside B gap looking inside/out. Saffold is responsible for the left side B gap - when he see's the defender back up at the snap he is no longer a B gap threat and so he works to double to his gap. Morse is ultimately responsible for passing off his block to Bates so that he can work to that left side A gap if something shows. 6 1 4 5 Quote
LabattBlue Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Beane really needs to stop dumpster diving in regards to the IOL. A 1st or 2nd round pick on a guard who can transition to center would be nice…and then another OG on Day 3. 5 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, FireChans said: Roger Saffold flat out SUCKS. may be the worst player on offense Second to Ryan Bates 1 Quote
FireChans Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Beane really needs to stop dumpster diving in regards to the IOL. A 1st or 2nd round pick on a guard who can transition to center would be nice…and then another OG on Day 3. He was a big time FA signing. Just a whiff 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Second to Ryan Bates Bring back Ike! Quote
TBBills Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Watching the reverse angle on that play and Allen is pretty close to being sacked for a safety due to Saffold going to double team nobody and leaving a guy in front of him with a clear path to the QB. Now, granted, this could have been how they decide to block it up because Bates has nobody to block(the Steeler player in front of him doesn't rush and kind of just stands there and Morse ends up sort of coming off his block to get a piece of that defender, but it was more like he steered the Pittsburgh defender he was blocking into the way of the other guy and bumped him off course. That defender actually gets a hit on Allen on the play but it doesn't matter because...well Josh Allen is freaking Josh Allen. Just seems really weird to block it up like that when Dawkins had his man stonewalled...I would have to think Saffold was supposed to block the dude that hit Allen on that play?? @HoofHearted any thoughts? YOU do know it was b.c it was a delayed blitz so his job was 1 then 2, 1 didnt move so he went to 2. Quote
Dan Darragh Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Looking at that play for the 90th time, it looks like Shakir was also open and could have taken it to the house. Quote
UKBillFan Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Second to Ryan Bates Would like to see Bates at LG again before completely writing him off. 3 Quote
Ralonzo Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Did anyone else see Bobby Hart getting reps as eligible tackle? I'm tellin' ya he's born again hard and will take someone's job. Quote
without a drought Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Too bad that play didn't work out. I mean it's not as bad as an almost fumble, but it's pretty close. 2 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) I'm not trying to dismiss that perhaps and maybe he messed up, but I mean like ya said maybe it was drawn up like that or maybe a delayed blitz. I'm happy things worked out the way they did though. What a game. 0 sacks and what?....like 3 pressures all game. I think the dudes did good.....Pass pro Edited October 10, 2022 by Goin Breakdown Quote
Herc11 Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 So much judgement by fans who don't even know what his blocking responsibility was on that play 1 1 3 Quote
FilthyBeast Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Saffold was dumped by the Titans for a reason. Hopefully his play improves to serviceable as the season progresses but he's by far the worst olineman on the team and looks like a bad FA move along with Settle and Crowder. 1 1 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Maybe they should have kept Minkah back as deep over instead of delayed blitzing. He can run with Davis and provide blanket coverage, right? Quote
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