Trade Deadline Approaching

[BuffaloBills1998]

2 minutes ago, mrags said:

Oddly we’ve drafted 3 of them in recent years and can’t seem to find one. 
 

I thought these guys grew on trees. 

Reality is, it’s all about the o line. I remember when an old beat up Darren McFadden rushed for 1,089 yards back in 2015. Its all about how you coach the Line and the schemes that the coaches design 

[Nextmanup]

Just now, billsbackto81 said:

I'm all for O line maybe some more depth at Safety. 

 

It still boggles my mind on how a O line can be so competent at pass protection and yet so MEH at run blocking.

2 completely different skill sets.  I guess.  

[Pete]

4 minutes ago, mrags said:

Oddly we’ve drafted 3 of them in recent years and can’t seem to find one. 
 

I thought these guys grew on trees. 

Posters have been saying the same thing about guards.  If they are so easy to find, why can’t we find two above average guards?

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, eee1776 said:

We are 1.3 million under the cap. (spotrac) If the Bills do anything it will have to be way cap friendly. 

I'm sure Bean could figure it out.

[mrags]

Just now, billsbackto81 said:

I'm all for O line maybe some more depth at Safety. 

 

It still boggles my mind on how a O line can be so competent at pass protection and yet so MEH at run blocking.

 

It’s because our RBs aren’t actually any good. 

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, mrags said:

What do we do about his 17 injuries each season though? 

...and what are the fantasy GM's giving up to get him?

[billsbackto81]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Starting to see Christian McCaffery to Buffalo rumors pop up again. I mean it would be an interesting trade but I’d rather add more to the O line. RBS are a dime a dozen position

I bet like Gilmore and Ramsey he'd get healthy real quick if he was traded to Buffalo.

[BuffaloBills1998]

Just now, mrags said:

What do we do about his 17 injuries each season though? 

Good question, that’s why if Carolina calls Beane back and asks him if he wants CMC I wouldn’t give them anything more than a late 5-7th round pick and would request that they restructure his contract before finalizing the deal because of his injury history. But it was reported before that we were talking to the panthers last offseason about getting CMC. Wouldn’t be shocked if those calls are being made again

[BillsSbSoon]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

they’re saying if we trade for CMC then we’ll only be on the hook for 1.035 million and could release/restructure him in the spring and wouldn’t be on the hook for his 3 year 36 million guaranteed money that’s left on his current contract in Carolina

Carolina isn’t going to just give him away though. Would you give up multiple assets for a guy to cut him in the off-season? 

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

So the high ankle sprain is the deal-breaker for you? 

 

 

Skippy Braynless when seeing Panthers losses:

 

 

 

Yeah, I mean can't trade for an injured player...other than that we could have just traded for Darnold instead 😅

 

Or maybe both for a 7th round pick in 2030

Edited October 10, 2022 by Big Turk

[Solomon Grundy]

I’m still waiting for the backup QB post 😎

[BuffaloBills1998]

1 minute ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Carolina isn’t going to just give him away though. Would you give up multiple assets for a guy to cut him in the off-season? 

No I wouldn’t. But it’s all up to Beane and company and whatever kind of deal they can work out. Like I said before They’ll probably ask/request that they restructure his contract before coming here

Just now, Solomon Grundy said:

I’m still waiting for the backup QB post 😎

Wait for next offseason lol

[billsbackto81]

7 minutes ago, mrags said:

 

It’s because our RBs aren’t actually any good. 

I've given up on Moss but Singletary does have talent and shows it when given opportunity. As a rookie you can't discount Cook yet. This line gets blown up constantly when they're in short yardage situations, even on JA17 designed runs. That's not on the RB. They're obviously better at pulling than pushing. Finesse over Power.

Edited October 10, 2022 by billsbackto81

[mrags]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Reality is, it’s all about the o line. I remember when an old beat up Darren McFadden rushed for 1,089 yards back in 2015. Its all about how you coach the Line and the schemes that the coaches design 

Yup. Let’s just keep making excuses for the RBs. 
 

it’s so funny, this RB vs OL argument is really just the QB vs WRs argument that we’ve had for the last 20 years before Josh. 
 

back then it was 

Collins

Van Pelt

 Flutie

Johnson

JP

Holcomb

Edwards

Fitz

EJ

Tuel

Orton

Taylor

would be pretty good if they actually had someone to throw to. 
 

Now we have the xxxx would actually be a good RB if they had a good line. 
 

fact is, when you get a good player you stop making excuses for other players. 

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by mrags

[BuffaloRebound]

4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

2 completely different skill sets.  I guess.  

When is an innovative coach gonna carry 3-4 OL who exclusively come in for short yardage run plays?  

You could make an argument that those run-only O-Linemen would be much more valuable than all the Special-Teams-only guys we carry.  

[mrags]

1 minute ago, billsbackto81 said:

I've given up on Moss but Singletary does have talent and shows it when given opportunity. As a rookie you can't discount Cook yet. This line gets blown up constantly when they're in short yardage situations, even on JA17 designed runs. That's not on the RB.

[Royale with Cheese]

Did Bates get injured for a second yesterday?  I swore I saw Bobby Hart out there for a series.

[NickelCity]

Backup safety. Interior OLine if any become available. 

[BearNorth]

3 minutes ago, mrags said:

 

It’s because our RBs aren’t actually any good. 

So yesterday, our "not any good" running backs had 11 carries for 80 yards with long runs of 23 and 24 yards[TD], the other 9 carries [some in garbage time] averaged 3.7 yards. Josh had 5 carries for 42 yards, including a couple of designed runs.  With our passing attack, how many teams will be stacking the box, no one wants to force us to throw.

[Simon Says]

31 minutes ago, Brandon said:

If there's a good OG available,  I might kick the tires,  but chances are,  the value won't line up to make it worthwhile. 

This is what I would focus on. Even if Bills wait until the deadline they don't have enough cap space to acquire elite talent.