Gabe Davis...best deep threat in the NFL?

[Since1981]

Feels like Diggs gets safety attn and then Gabe has room on top while he specializes in deep post/deep fly. He’s a big strong dude and wins

Edited October 10, 2022 by Since1981

[zow2]

Davis is gonna get a huge payday. Somewhere if not here. But let’s be real, he works perfectly with Josh Allen and that strong arm. They belong together.  I don’t think he’d be this productive anywhere else.

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Honestly…Davis is just another example of how 40 times are not remotely as relevant to a players performance as people on this board make it out to be.  
 

Football isn’t about running in a dead straight line with shorts on and no pads or defenders.  It’s why it’s maddening when people claim Devin is too slow when he has excellent change of direction and acceleration speeds allowing him to play faster than people think just because they have a bias towards his 40 time.  

 

Davis has become an excellent route runner, probably has a lot to do with Diggs, and he beats his man with his feet giving him separation.  And to be fair, it also helps having Diggs on the other side drawing a lot of attention too.  
 

Jerry Rice ran like a 4.71 forty, didn’t impact him and no one thought he was slow for example.  
 

Davis is becoming a beast, still don’t think he’s even reached his ceiling yet either.  

Well, I think the real issue is people making a big deal about a tenth of a second difference between some of these guys. A 4.5 is not much different than a 4.4.

 

And you are never just running in a straight line on a football field anyway. You are fighting off press coverage, running routes, reading the zones, hand fighting with defenders, etc.

 

So, yeah, a 4.3 is faster than a 4.4, a little, but it is not significantly faster in field results and there are countless other factors to consider with deep ball success. I think the #1 and #2 attributes are route running and ball tracking. I played some receiver growing up and tracking the deep ball was very difficult for me. It's a real skill.

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

That second TD wrestling the ball away will stay with me for a while 

 

 

I don't think we've ever seen or will ever see a play like that.  

 

Absolutely incredible 

Edited October 10, 2022 by Big Blitz

[BigDingus]

53 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Davis is gonna get a huge payday. Somewhere if not here. But let’s be real, he works perfectly with Josh Allen and that strong arm. They belong together.  I don’t think he’d be this productive anywhere else.

 

I think it's in his best interest to stay here. 

 

I know, I know, biased coming from a Bills fan, but I think leaving such a good thing with Josh behind could end up in a Peerless Price type way. He's great, but having a top tier QB & top tier WR opposite of him gives him so much more freedom. 

Edited October 10, 2022 by BigDingus

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

15 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Might sound weird but the fact he doesn't have the burning speed gives him more chances without saftey help 

He beat the safety twice today on deep balls. 

[iccrewman112]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

TO , Eric Moulds , James Lofton , Moss, are prototype deep threats 

 

Davis is in that mold … His hundred time would be much better than his 40 time

he had a pretty good 98 time today.

Edited October 10, 2022 by iccrewman112

[BigAl2526]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Everybody thinks 40 time is the measure of a deep threat… but historically , the best deep threats we’re not smaller guys running 4.3s

 

typically they are 6’2 or 6’3 guys… long striders who can track a ball downfield without losing speed AND battling a DB for the ball

 

McKenzies 4.3 speed does nothing for his ability as a deep threat because he has trouble tracking a ball 40 yards over his shoulder while fighting a DB

 

TO , Eric Moulds , James Lofton , Moss, are prototype deep threats 

 

Davis is in that mold … His hundred time would be much better than his 40 time

Lofton and Randy Moss also happened to be very fast.  Lofton, I believe ran a sub 4.4 40 and Randy Moss ran a legit 4.3.  I think your point is legit, however.  

Edited October 10, 2022 by BigAl2526

[WideNine]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I don't think we've ever seen or will ever see a play like that.  

 

Absolutely incredible 

 

That was against Minkah Fitzpatrick too who is no slouch.

Davis wanted it more.

 

 

 

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Everybody thinks 40 time is the measure of a deep threat… but historically , the best deep threats we’re not smaller guys running 4.3s

 

typically they are 6’2 or 6’3 guys… long striders who can track a ball downfield without losing speed AND battling a DB for the ball

 

McKenzies 4.3 speed does nothing for his ability as a deep threat because he has trouble tracking a ball 40 yards over his shoulder while fighting a DB

 

TO , Eric Moulds , James Lofton , Moss, are prototype deep threats 

 

Davis is in that mold … His hundred time would be much better than his 40 time

I'd just like to add Lee Evans. Dude played with some bad qbs, was the only player that needed accounting for.

[wppete]

I don’t think I have ever seen a WR attack the football like Gabe Davis. He snatches the ball out of the air. Goes up and snatches the ball and lands in one smooth motion without losing a step and in full speed. It’s impressive to see. He did it in college and now he has been doing it in the NFL. What a stud. 

[BigDingus]

6 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Lofton and Randy Moss also happened to be very fast.  Lofton, I believe ran a sub 4.0 40 and Randy Moss ran a legit 4.3.  I think your point is legit, however.  

 

There's no way Lofton ran a sub 4.0 second 40... Has anyone ever done that?

[BigAl2526]

Just now, BigDingus said:

 

There's no way Lofton ran a sub 4.0 second 40... Has anyone ever done that?

Sorry.  My bad.  a sub 4.4 40.  I'll go back and correct my post. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4.5 is very good speed for a WR if you run good routes. Jerry Rice was a 4.5 guy and probably the best deep ball WR in NFL history. People don’t talk about him as a deep threat.

 

Davis just has a special ability to get behind a defense. 

[Saxum]

37 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

Feels like Diggs gets safety attn and then Gabe has room on top while he specializes in deep post/deep fly. He’s a big strong dude and wins

 

He does appear to be same kind of benefit Peerless Price did with Eric Moulds.

[Buffalo716]

26 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Lofton and Randy Moss also happened to be very fast.  Lofton, I believe ran a sub 4.4 40 and Randy Moss ran a legit 4.3.  I think your point is legit, however.  

Yea I understand I put some burners 

 

but the height and length and ability to gallop downfield while tracking is always traits for deep threats 

 

the desaun Jackson’s and Tyreek hills are outlier’s 

[Beck Water]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yea I understand I put some burners 

 

but the height and length and ability to gallop downfield while tracking is always traits for deep threats 

 

the desaun Jackson’s and Tyreek hills are outlier’s 

 

Doesn't hurt if you can out-aggressive the safety for the contested ball

[John from Riverside]

As impressive as that first drive was with the long TD was more impressed with the other one where he Snatched that ball away from the defensive back

[mrags]

1 hour ago, gordong said:

We are going to have to enjoy Gabe...cause he is playing himself right off this roster.. unfortunately.

I know right. That sorry sack can’t even score on every completion he gets. 
 

no really, I know what you’re saying and I just hope Beane realizes how special he is and keeps him at all costs. 

[mrags]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

There's no way Lofton ran a sub 4.0 second 40... Has anyone ever done that?

Without looking. I wanna say that Bo or Deion were very close or were expected to be but didn’t run don’t remember. 
 

Carl Lewis was clocked at a 3.9 I believe though.