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1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge?

 

How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things??

 

It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc)

 

He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds.

 

Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff??

My old A&P professor is going to ***** a brick when I tell him the hand is not considered a body part...:wub:

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3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge?

 

How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things??

 

It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc)

 

He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds.

 

Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff??

Romo even went as far as saying the Steeler booth guys must not have been paying attention. 

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1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Romo even went as far as saying the Steeler booth guys must not have been paying attention. 


 

Yep - Romo was running a pretty dumb narrative until somebody got in his ear to tell him it was incomplete.

 

Just absolutely butchered the call - at one point saying he got both feet down.

 

The Bills stadium is also one of the better to see both live and on the booths - just a really bad day by Romo.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Was I the only one who was screaming at Nantz and Romo as they kept wondering aloud why that wasn't a catch and urging the Steelers to challenge?

 

How do these announcers see so many games live, get paid to know things like why that wasn't a catch(basic rules) and STILL never seem to know these things??

 

It wasn't a catch because a hand being down DOES NOT count towards determining whether a player is in bounds or not. Has to be feet or a body part(wrist, elbow, butt, knee, etc)

 

He clearly had one foot down in bounds and then his elbow came down out of bounds.

 

Clear no catch. Easy rule to know. How do these announcers not know basic rules when they are paid to know this stuff??

 

That needs to be changed. 

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Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

That needs to be changed. 


 

Nope because then on a run or catch - if the hand goes down - you would need to call the runner down by contact.

 

They are very specific about the hands not counting to keep it consistent for balance checks on other plays where the hands hit the ground.

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

That needs to be changed. 

 

No it doesn't, it is correct. A wrist counts, a hand doesn't. Literally straight from the NFL rulebook:

 

"b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; "

 

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/

 

In the Pickens example his hand hits, which doesn't count, then one foot and then his next body part is his elbow out of bounds. In college, that's a catch. Same with Diontae Johnson in the endzone, he got one foot in. In the NFL, nope.

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2 hours ago, Just Jack said:

Was that the catch that caused the Steelers to take the lead and win the game?  No?  Ok, I'm not going to worry about it then. 

 

What's funny is that if this was a determining factor in the Bills losing or something, people would say the thread is just whining about the loss.

 

This just goes to show we talk about literally everything on this forum, its far more active than most of the nfl team forums.

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I've watched a ton of ball and don't know that I've seen this come up before, I didn't know.

 

My first opinion was that it should be a rule change because it's a more athletic feat in a way... don't see any gimmicky way it could be used to game the system, just an athletic play....

 

But then I saw the down by contact argument and it makes more sense

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11 hours ago, Pete said:

One hand = two feet.  Stupid refs

 

Wrong. Read the rule book. A hand does not count in terms of being in bounds.  

 

It's two feet or any other body part excluding hands.

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The refs appear to have gotten it correct. What I want to know is why is the rule written that way? Having watched the play it sure seems to me like that should be a catch. I wonder what circumstance the NFL foresaw that made them write the rule the way they did. Anybody?

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