Did Epenesa just earn himself the Jerry Hughes treatment?

[Sherlock Holmes]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Betcha it had an "F" in it.

"You're just a little ***** hussy!" 

4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I personally have some faith that the Bills will take the situation up with the league and point out “hey, our guy was trying to defuse the situation and take his buddy away, he had no reason to believe the guy shoving him was a ref, he had no intention to throw an elbow at a ref” with pics.  

 

Hopefully they have some cred, and Epenesa will make some amends somehow and not make a habit of this.

 

 

I share your concern but I think Hughes had a years-long pattern with multiple refs that earned him ref purgatory, not just that one B word-out moment.

 

Jerry had a pattern to transition into a scary guy Kyle Williams called “Gary” when his fuse got lit

We'll see...would hate to have that vicious cycle repeated again. I'll definitely be looking for flags anytime Epenesa is on the field.

[Kwai San]

2 hours ago, Buddo said:

Possibly. Looked to me that AJ was moving Shaq out of the way, when Hussey pushed him, AJ had his back to Hussey, and stuck his elbow back and caught Hussey, who then lost the plot.

 

No doubt the NFL will side with the zebra, but imho, common sense should prevail, and Epenesa shouldn't be unduly punished, especially as he was trying to keep Shaq away from getting into it.

 

Imho, Hussey was a complete idiot in his actions. You don't go shoving NFL players around who can't see you, and expect no reaction.

 

Good referees don't get involved in that way in the first place, especially when the guy you are shoving, is trying to defuse the situation.

So I totally agree w this but will the Zebras?   Me thinks no....sadly

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, Shortchaz said:

Looks like a.j said something to him that lit the fuse 

Yup. he had an opportunity to fix his mistake and he escalated it.

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Uh oh...looks like Epenesa got Hussey throwing a hussey fit with some extracurricular elbow action! (Great move by the way)

 

My question is Jerry Hughes only bitched out a referee and forever was targeted, can we expect the same from here on out with young Epenesa? Did he just make his career that much more difficult? Discuss!

 

 

 

This is a TBD myth, not fact.

 

He ran afoul of the refs in 2014 and 2015 (couldn't keep his mouth shut).. After that, they pretty much left him alone.  He had a season with 9 penalties, then nothing significant.

[CoudyBills]

4 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Heated, but I didn't see anything intentional. AJ might see a fine. I understand Refs have a tight knit fraternity but if I were a fellow ref I'd tell Hussey, Dude! Stop being such a Little B÷+€#!

I think the other ref did when he got in there.  

[Westside]

4 hours ago, Shake_My_Head said:

 

He looks like a prick.

[eSJayDee]

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

This is a TBD myth, not fact.

 

He ran afoul of the refs in 2014 and 2015 (couldn't keep his mouth shut).. After that, they pretty much left him alone.  He had a season with 9 penalties, then nothing significant.

Yes, he didn't have many calls against him, but (now maybe this is a homer's or observational bias) it seemed like he was often a victim of, shall we say, lenient holding officiating.

[0017]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

This is a TBD myth, not fact.

 

He ran afoul of the refs in 2014 and 2015 (couldn't keep his mouth shut).. After that, they pretty much left him alone.  He had a season with 9 penalties, then nothing significant.

Not really, teams were allowed to hold him on almost every play in every game ever. Some players weren’t as good at holding so Jerry would get a sack from time to time. 

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, eSJayDee said:

Yes, he didn't have many calls against him, but (now maybe this is a homer's or observational bias) it seemed like he was often a victim of, shall we say, lenient holding officiating.

 

Just now, Dr. Football said:

Not really, teams were allowed to hold him on almost every play in every game ever. Some players weren’t as good at holding so Jerry would get a sack from time to time. 

I was responding to the OPs claim that Hughes was forever targeted.

 

anyway, as they say, holding happens on every play…but only by the other team…

[Rochesterfan]

5 hours ago, MPT said:

Hussey should be fired. His reaction to that bump was totally unhinged and definitely personal.

 

Agreed - the entire over-reaction was Hussey’s fault.  AJ had both arms around Shaq and was moving him away from the pile when Hussey comes up behind and shoves AJ away.  When he continued - AJ swung his Elbow and said something, but at that point he didn’t know it was a Ref and the Refs should not be pushing players - especially when they are helping to control a situation that the Refs failed to Control themselves.

 

Then to make it worse - Hussey goes after him and another official has to step in the way.

 

Bad look by the Zebra’s.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by Rochesterfan

[BrainwashedBillsFan]

This is complete bs. AJ shoved the zebras arm slightly and the ref went bazerk cause AJ told him to go f himself. This is really gonna justify a game suspension? Gimme a break

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

5 hours ago, Buddo said:

Possibly. Looked to me that AJ was moving Shaq out of the way, when Hussey pushed him, AJ had his back to Hussey, and stuck his elbow back and caught Hussey, who then lost the plot.

 

No doubt the NFL will side with the zebra, but imho, common sense should prevail, and Epenesa shouldn't be unduly punished, especially as he was trying to keep Shaq away from getting into it.

 

Imho, Hussey was a complete idiot in his actions. You don't go shoving NFL players around who can't see you, and expect no reaction.

 

Good referees don't get involved in that way in the first place, especially when the guy you are shoving, is trying to defuse the situation.

He shoves him, and then he's wildly offended when he's bumped. Lol

[Livinginthepast]

This interaction is just bizarre. Does Epenesa know its Hussey that shoves him? I thought It might be a mistake and AJ thought it was a Steeler but what happens after the elbow when Epenesa makes no attempt to apologize or even cares he has hit a ref makes you think it was deliberate. Epenesa is a bit of a hot head, so its quite possible. But Hussey? His reaction is beyond unprofessional. He is the head referee and he oddly reacts like he wants to brawl with Epenesa. Ref is supposed to be the cool headed island of calm in this violent sport. Instead you have a guy who thinks he is officiating little league and he can shove people?

Edited October 10, 2022 by Livinginthepast

[Fixxxer]

7 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

This interaction is just bizarre. Does Epenesa know its Hussey that shoves him? I thought It might be a mistake and EJ thought it was a Steeler but what happens after the elbow when Epenesa makes no attempt to apologize or even cares he has hit a ref makes you think it was deliberate. Epenesa is a bit of a hot head, so its quite possible. But Hussey? His reaction is beyond unprofessional. He is the head referee and he oddly reacts like he wants to brawl with Epenesa. Ref is supposed to be the cool headed island of calm in this violent sport. Instead you have a guy who thinks he is officiating little league and he can shove people?

 

That's why I think it looks bad for him. He probably thought he hit a player initially but when realizes it's the ref he doesn't look apologetic, at all. Not smart. 

I'm sure McD isn't happy with AJ's reaction. 

 

[CEN-CAL17]

6 hours ago, Buddo said:

Possibly. Looked to me that AJ was moving Shaq out of the way, when Hussey pushed him, AJ had his back to Hussey, and stuck his elbow back and caught Hussey, who then lost the plot.

 

No doubt the NFL will side with the zebra, but imho, common sense should prevail, and Epenesa shouldn't be unduly punished, especially as he was trying to keep Shaq away from getting into it.

 

Imho, Hussey was a complete idiot in his actions. You don't go shoving NFL players around who can't see you, and expect no reaction.

 

Good referees don't get involved in that way in the first place, especially when the guy you are shoving, is trying to defuse the situation.

Watch the 3-4 plays leading up to the scuffle… AJ is pissed about being held or something. He talks to Hussey and gets mad. AJ blows him off and hand gestures to Hussey like “go away, you’re idiot multiple times”. Then the scuffle happens and Hussey I think targets AJ and shoved him with his back turned. 
 

I think Hussey wanted AJ to react… Hussey got exactly what he wanted!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by CEN-CAL17

[CEN-CAL17]

Did nobody see AJ was mad at Hussey like 2-3 plays prior to the scuffle?  AJ gets mad at Hussey after being held, or something. Hussey says something back to AJ, AJ hand gestures back at Hussey like “shut up, go away, you’re idiot” multiple times…

 

Hussey targeted AJ I’m telling you. He shoved him cause he wanted to! 
 

Hussey should be fined big time!!!!

 

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by CEN-CAL17

[MPT]

2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Passive reaction to our OC losing it. It’s a bad example to set, now the players think it’s ok to become unhinged. 

 

Wtf are you talking about? Epenesa was breaking up a scuffle and accidentally bumped a referee who immediately went red-faced ape-*****. Who is the unhinged one?

1 hour ago, Buffalo619 said:

It’s a mental disease phenomenon known as the “Will Smith Effect”.  

 

Did you really just quote and reply to your own post to try and make it look less ridiculous? Because it didn't work.

[Richard Noggin]

That's effing weak from the ref. What an over-officious jerk.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Hussey acts like a real tough guy out there. I remember him from a few games last year, and thinking the same thing. I think he did the bills/chiefs playoff game. 

[0017]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I was responding to the OPs claim that Hughes was forever targeted.

 

anyway, as they say, holding happens on every play…but only by the other team…

Ya I hear you, I think I’m still holding onto some deep seated hatred towards the refs from the drought era games.