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There's nothing like a Saturday PM trade thread.

 

There's nothing like dreamers trading a #1 for Saquon RENTAL.

 

In Beane we trust. In fans who play the NFL like it's a Monopoly board game, not so much.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Someone tweeted at Joe Buscaglia claiming to have a source in the building at OBD that we are going to be making a blockbuster trade sending our 1st for an RB

 

IF that were true, what do you guys think?

 

1st, Moss for Saquon Barkley, 4th

1st, Moss for Christian McCaffrey

 

my darkhorse would be Dalvin Cook

 

does anyone know if $ can be retained on a deal? Or how does that work

 

Someone tweeting at Joe Buscaglia needs to make better ***** up.

 

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Yes, dollars can be retained on a deal.  For example, this happened with Mayfield to the Panthers.

 

No, Beane is not going to trade a first round pick for a half-year rental of an almost 26 yr old RB who is due $7.2M in salary for this season, then hits FA next season.  Especially, he's not going to make that trade for an RB who has had 2.25 good seasons in 4.25 years. 

 

In case you haven't been paying attention, the Giants are 3-1 and, to turn the culture around, Daboll ideally needs to replicate what McDermott did: lead them to a winning record and perhaps a playoff appearance if 9-7 will get you there.  Barkley is responsible for about 60% of their offense, and trading him would make that impossible.

 

In contrast, down in Carolina Matt Rhule is in his 3rd season and is nearing "Stand and Deliver" time (if he isn't already there).  McCaffrey is currently close to 40% of their offense, and Scott Fitterer would really need a bodyguard (and a damned good reason) if he starts holding a fire sale.   From the Bills side, McCaffrey is under contract for 3 more years, but at $11.8-$12M/yr.  With Josh Allen's salary about to take off, and the need to keep paying Diggs, start paying Knox, and keep paying our OLas well as D  - we can not afford this.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Someone tweeting at Joe Buscaglia needs to make better ***** up.

 

bottom to top:

Yes, dollars can be retained on a deal.  For example, this happened with Mayfield to the Panthers.

 

No, Beane is not going to trade a first round pick for a half-year rental of an almost 26 yr old RB who is due $7.2M in salary for this season, then hits FA next season.  Especially, he's not going to make that trade for an RB who has had 2.25 good seasons in 4.25 years. 

 

In case you haven't been paying attention, the Giants are 3-1 and, to turn the culture around, Daboll ideally needs to replicate what McDermott did: lead them to a winning record and perhaps a playoff appearance if 9-7 will get you there.  Barkley is responsible for about 60% of their offense, and trading him would make that impossible.

 

In contrast, down in Carolina Matt Rhule is in his 3rd season and is nearing "Stand and Deliver" time (if he isn't already there).  McCaffrey is currently close to 40% of their offense, and Scott Fitterer would really need a bodyguard (and a damned good reason) if he starts holding a fire sale.   From the Bills side, McCaffrey is under contract for 3 more years, but at $11.8-$12M/yr.  With Josh Allen's salary about to take off, and the need to keep paying Diggs, start paying Knox, and keep paying our OLas well as D  - we can not afford this.

 

 

  
how about McCaffrey restructured? 

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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Someone tweeted at Joe Buscaglia claiming to have a source in the building at OBD that we are going to be making a blockbuster trade sending our 1st for an RB

 

IF that were true, what do you guys think?

 

1st, Moss for Saquon Barkley, 4th

1st, Moss for Christian McCaffrey

 

my darkhorse would be Dalvin Cook

 

does anyone know if $ can be retained on a deal? Or how does that work

I’d say either Beane snuffed out a mole in the building, OR they’d need to be trading for a potential RB stud with more than one year left on their rookie deal.  The Bills would need to be really high on someone like Najee or Etienne, and then maybe they’d toss in someone like Moss in the deal.  No way should they trade a first round pick for an RB in the last year of a contract.

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1 hour ago, Chaos said:

People act like first round picks are always for Josh Allen and never for Aaron Maybin.  If Barkley could be obtained, along with a contract extension, for a first it would be an easy decision. 

Barkley and CMC are no brainers for me. An element that makes us unstoppable. 

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Josh Jacobs would be a lot cheaper in both compensation to LV and salary. He's only 24 and on an expiring contact.

 

Then, try to sign Beckham and use a 1-3rd round pick to upgrade the o line (if an opportunity presents itself).

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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Someone tweeted at Joe Buscaglia claiming to have a source in the building at OBD that we are going to be making a blockbuster trade sending our 1st for an RB

 

IF that were true, what do you guys think?

 

1st, Moss for Saquon Barkley, 4th

1st, Moss for Christian McCaffrey

 

my darkhorse would be Dalvin Cook

 

does anyone know if $ can be retained on a deal? Or how does that work

TRADE a 1st for a RB? You don’t even use a 1st on drafting a RB anymore. Who is this “someone” because he or she is FOS.

 

do people not understand that half (probably more than half) of the Bills running game problems is the offensive line? I know Moss ain't great but Singletary is a perfectly fine RB1 in this league and on this team. 

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12 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

I found the tweeter lol.

 

big dick nick everybody 🦴


oh well if big dick nick is putting it out there it must be true. Close this thread please.

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5 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Josh Jacobs would be a lot cheaper in both compensation to LV and salary. He's only 24 and on an expiring contact.

 

Then, try to sign Beckham and use a 1-3rd round pick if to upgrade the o line (if an opportunity presents itself).


This. Jacobs can actually fit under our current cap and the Raiders are about to bottom out so moving on from a player with an expiring contract will be the right move for them. He is no Saquon but can grind out tough yards behind a poor OL like the Raiders have.

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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Someone tweeted at Joe Buscaglia claiming to have a source in the building at OBD that we are going to be making a blockbuster trade sending our 1st for an RB

 

IF that were true, what do you guys think?

 

1st, Moss for Saquon Barkley, 4th

1st, Moss for Christian McCaffrey

 

my darkhorse would be Dalvin Cook

 

does anyone know if $ can be retained on a deal? Or how does that work

For a first?  No way Beane would be that dumb.  Would go completely against his entire philosophy of value.

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1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If we did that for Mcaffrey…it’d be an awesome move. He could add an element to our offense that could make us indefensible. All firsts are not equal and at this point, ours should most likely be in the 30’s. It could be the move that pushes us over the top for a Super Bowl and if that happens, none of us are going to give a ***** about the draft. That’s just the reality. All that being said: I bet no chance it actually happens 

Just what we need…another guy on IR

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