What We Learned Week 4

[corta765]

NFL: The cover 2 shell look is here to stay and the results have been noticeable as offenses across the board have been slowed a bit more then normal. For years QBs were ripping defenses in incredible fashion which we got to see with Josh in 2020, Mahomes did in 18-19, Rodgers the same, etc.. but defenses and their DCs have made the goal to have a 1000 papercuts rather then one massive rip. That has at least proved successful in slowing teams as the more plays a QB is forced to run a drive the better chance for error mixed in. A lot has been said about the Packers slow start and some of that is Adams gone and offense breaking in two rookie WR (FYI add Romeo Doubs in fantasy if you can you'll thank me later.). But the adjustment of defenses is a big part of this and until offenses figure out a different way to attack, defenses will continue to force the easy passes down low and short. I would also add many teams are switching back to a 4-3 or even 5-2 look where they are not blitzing and depending on the four or five man front to make the impact on the QB. The Top 10 teams in the NFL in sacks PHI/DAL/SF/TB/BUF/DEN/GB/KC/NE/LAC have a combined record of 25-15 whereas the bottom 10 teams are 16-34. Obviously teams with high sack rates historically have had an advantage W/L record, but with the increased emphasis on a Cover 2 look, without blitzing, and safeties high the ability to get to the QB has an even more important role then before.

 

AFC:

BAL- The controversy on the 4th down go for it call vs a FG makes zero sense to me. The Ravens knew Allen was there and a FG still meant possible loss as Allen was rolling. As a Bills fan and the tables were flipped I would've wanted the Bills to go for it as Lamar is a special talent. With that said if they could get DJ Moore or ODB it would I think really help the offense be a bit more diversified.

BUF- Big win and not just because of the whole one score thing. Standings wise BUF has the head to head over BAL, they have a common games win with MIA, and conference wise they are 2-1. I think 13 wins gets the AFC 1 seed this year, 12 means it is tiebreakers. The Bills need to get every tiebreaker they can at this point.

CIN- For all the panic about 0-2 they have rebounded decently to 2-2. Their defense looks better then their offense which is good and bad. Its good that they are helping keep them in games, but Burrow and crew just look off at this point. Maybe SB hangover, maybe the Cover 2 shell, maybe they just overperformed and got hot and they are not as high performers as we saw last year.

CLE- Tough loss at ATL as things even out a bit in Browny land. Jacoby Brissett has played as well as he can to keep the Browns season alive until Watsons return, but Sunday showed he is still limited and those limitations can be exploited.

DEN- Well the offense finally broke 20 pts four games in... but the defense had a bad day and after Broncos offense got it to 25-25 the D allowed a game ending TD drive. The bigger issue is Russell Wilson is on pace for just 17 TDs on the year which would be a career low. Things will probably balance back a little as he is projected for 4100 yds, but this is starting to feel a bit like when the Bills got Bledsoe and you could start to see his best days were further behind then hoped.

HOU- The Texans are going as expected so lets focus on RB Dameon Pierce who has had a great start with two straight 100+ yard combined games and a TD in each. Their offense is going to rebuild next year with a new QB, but he is a nice piece to help that new QB.

IND- Owner is mad, fans are mad, retired alumni are mad, everyone's mad. Matt Ryan is headed for career lows, Taylor is hurt, other key players can't stay healthy, nothing is working. Thing is the Colts have been clinging for years to stop gap "easy" fix options at QB which worked decently in 2020, 2021 almost paid off until Wentz imploded at the end. 31 other teams are not crying tears as they had Manning and wasted Luck, but this is a team which maybe finally is realizing they need to take their medicine for a little bit and truly reset their team across the board most importantly though at QB.

JAX- Turnovers will doom any team and 5 fumbles by Lawrence is all PHI needed to end this. Regardless they are probably the best team in their division and adding another pass catcher would help this growing offense.

KC- Yours truly said preseason KC's offense could be better as it is more diversified now and what a performance Sunday. TB has had a rash of injuries and just looked a little old vs the Ferrari fast attack of KC.

LAC- Needed win to right the ship and they knocked off a division opponent to sit squarely at #2 in the division. With the injuries piling up if they can get through their next 3 games @CLE , DEN, & SEA 2-1, they would hit the bye at 4-3 which all things considered isn't too bad and would allow them to heal up a bit.

MIA- Pathetic. Utterly Pathetic and Scary that you would put a player in who was clearly hurt Sunday and could legitimately die because of their condition. Sad thing is this is just the must public display we have seen of this it happens in some other teams locker rooms where the win is ahead of a players health. Thursday was not a good night for the sport and if the NFL is going to actually care about the long term viability they need to be aggressively proactive in protecting players from themselves regardless of W/L record.

NE- Spare me the moral victory crap, their the 2006-2009 Bills with some talent in a few spots but overall lacking compared to the rest of the field. It is glorious to watch although I have to admit Matthew Judon is a superb player.

NYJ- Hey hey hey look at these Jets making some strides. Nice game for Zach Wilson to come out of injury and help them to a W on the road in PIT none the less. They are a year away but they will win a game or two against a bigger opponent at some point that will turn some heads. Sauce Gardner is up to 5 PD this season and the INT's will come soon.

PIT- It is hard to admit that a favorite is mortal but reality is hitting hard for PIT. Their defense is missing its leader and the lack of talent shows back their meanwhile the offense is a mess. Moving to Pickett is the right move although doing so on the road in Buffalo none the less is really trial by fire. Regardless you got to see what you have and at least they are doing that.

RAIDERS- This weeks game in KC feels like a must win if they have any division chances and even playoff wise. A lot of hype was thrown on Derek Carr pre season, but only once in his career has he thrown for 30 or more TDs (2015 32TDs), otherwise he averages about 24 TDs a year which is middle of the road these days. The remainder of the year is Carr also battling for his starting spot, the Davis family is not known for patience of late.

TEN- The division crown is their path to the playoffs and they are back to being tied for it. Derrick Henry is on pace for over 1300 yds even though he is on pace for his lowest yards pet attempt at 4.0 a carry. The Titans have dominated their division since Tannehill arrived and how they handle the upstart Jags will go a ways to deciding their fate.

 

NFC:

ATL- 2-2 with both losses being one score and last second. Wilder things have happened and if they can just get a win in their next three (at TB, SF, at CIN) they then have CAR, LAC, at CAR, CHI, at WSH, & PIT. The NFC will have opportunities for wild card spots this year, maybe the plucky Falcons find a way into that group.

ARZ- The Cards have not looked particularly well these first four weeks despite being 2-2, but a faceoff with the 4-0 Eagles is maybe the measuring stick they need. After the schedule toughens up as matchups with the Rams, 49ers, & Vikings await with even Seattle looking more formidable. No team will answer more questions this month about who they are good or bad then Zona.

CAR- I feel bad for Panther fans heck I feel bad for myself as writing about this team sucks. Same deal as prior years as the QB isn't doing enough, McCaffrey is good when healthy, and the defense is opportunistic enough for them to lose close. Matt Rhule's days are numbered, but this team truly needs a new president or gm with a clearly defined vision because they have been adrift for years now.

CHI- Bears fans are apparently surprised their not good and Fields isn't progressing. This is a public service announcement that expecting a second year QB to just improve because he should when you give him no offensive line or weapons generally is not an avenue for success.

DAL- Cooper Rush managed to go 3-0 in relief with Dak due back soon. Dallas very much has their season alive and their defense has held every opponent under 20 pts. The Eagles are in two weeks, even if they lose to the Rams this week at 3-2 they will have a chance to make a statement.

DET- 1st in pts scored, 32nd in pts allowed. Only Detroit could do something like that. But seriously the Lions were everyone's preseason wildcard darling, but reality is they are a year early as the defense still needs major work. The offense though has shown to have some real juice and they have lost every game close with losses to PHI and MIN being of no shame. Seattle though is a bit of a gut punch on the progress meter. I understand people really like Dan Campbell and his candid honesty, but results are going to have to show more the rest of the year.

GB- Playing with fire at home as Rodgers pick 6 was nearly a catastrophe but cooler heads prevailed against NE. The rookie WRs Doubds and Watson are finding their way week by week and GB should be far more interesting on offense come the later weeks of the season.

LAR- The 49ers have had the Rams number for a bit now (minus the NFC title), but the offense is sputtering right now. Allen Robinson has missing persons signs up, Stafford is getting beaten, and the RB situation is questionable. Maybe it is the SB hangover, maybe tough schedule, maybe McVay is himself a little burned out, but they need to get it together quick otherwise they will find themselves in a far more dire picture playoff wise.

MIN- Watching this team is infuriating. They have so many good players on offense and some studs on D that winning should not be this hard. Kirk Cousins seemingly makes things harder on himself and I do not see how they move forward with him after this year. Regardless they won and are 3-1, but the potential left on the table is disappointing when you see the roster.
NOLA- They played hard and Dalton was decent despite all the injuries, but they are already now 1-3. The NFC South looks weak and TB does not look strong so maybe they pull it together or maybe like last year despite some talent on the roster the sum of the parts just doesn't click enough to make noise.

NYG- Every few years we get a team that is fun, 100% overachieving, but easy to root for and honestly this Giants team is that. It is hard to say if Barkley can hold up the season barring the load right now and Daniel Jones could turnover the ball enough it doesn't matter what anyone does, BUT maybe it lasts. Next four before the bye are London vs GB, BAL, at JAX, and at SEA.  Find a way to go 2-2 and the G-Man come out of the bye rested at 4-3 with some winnable games potentially against WSH 2x, DET, IND, and HOU. Hey as we know wilder things have happened.

PHI- This offense is insanely fun to watch and there may not have been a better offseason addition then AJ Brown to PHI. Strangely enough despite his incredible play Jalen Hurts has only thrown for 4 TD's despite 1120 yds passing although he has 4 rushing TDs. I would expect that to even out.

SEA- Geno Smith is 10th overall in passing yards something I did not expect to write or say in 2022. Hey credit to him for putting in the works after all these years as he is making work with Lockett, Metcalf, & Dissly while Penny has 292 yds on the ground. I was not high on Seattle, but with the NFC looking week and every NFC West team having issues maybe they can get some wins and make it interesting down the stretch.

SF- Good Jimmy showed up last night and when he does the 49ers look like a juggernaut. At 2-0 in division I want to say the 49ers take the West but Jimmy G can be very uneven and Kyle Shanahans conservative play calling late makes it hard to fully buy.

TB- The Bucs feel like they will win the division at 11-6 just simply because their defense is generally decent and the offense can do enough. With that said this is not the same team we saw the prior two years and with Brady's personal life seemingly imploding I have to question the focus he is able to keep in a year he already doesn't look himself.

WSH- Whatever good vibes existed after week 1 are gone. Three straight losses including two in division which they were not even close in either game. Maybe they right the ship with the Titans and Bears up next, but Wentz has been sacked 17 teams and has 5 ints already. Pencil them in for the #9 pick in the draft and move on.

[Coach Tuesday]

Love these.

 

You say cover 2 and I say offensive line play - the teams that are “surprising” are the ones with elite o-lines, namely Philly and Detroit.  

[warrior9]

4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Love these.

 

You say cover 2 and I say offensive line play - the teams that are “surprising” are the ones with elite o-lines, namely Philly and Detroit.  

This post is so confusing. 
 

He’s talking about cover two working. You upped it with o-line play (which I agree with)

 

but you used a team that is 1-3. 

[Dr.Sack]

Cover 2 defense is as  effective when a team can shut down the running game and most effective when the DL can generate pressure and make the QB feel uncomfortable.
 

This is the formula Sunday against the Steelers. Shut down Harris early, watch for the PA early if they do pass and when we get Pickett in 3rd down and distance make him feel uncomfortable. A top defense can impose their will and make rookie QBs turnover the ball. 

[John from Riverside]

Holy novel batman

[Coach Tuesday]

9 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

This post is so confusing. 
 

He’s talking about cover two working. You upped it with o-line play (which I agree with)

 

but you used a team that is 1-3. 

He is talking about the un-discussed key to the first quarter of the season.  I think it’s line play.  Yes the Lions are 1-3 but their offense is shocking the world.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

He is talking about the un-discussed key to the first quarter of the season.  I think it’s line play.  Yes the Lions are 1-3 but their offense is shocking the world.

Thank you for giving the condensed version

[dwight in philly]

1 hour ago, corta765 said:

NFL: The cover 2 shell look is here to stay and the results have been noticeable as offenses across the board have been slowed a bit more then normal. For years QBs were ripping defenses in incredible fashion which we got to see with Josh in 2020, Mahomes did in 18-19, Rodgers the same, etc.. but defenses and their DCs have made the goal to have a 1000 papercuts rather then one massive rip. That has at least proved successful in slowing teams as the more plays a QB is forced to run a drive the better chance for error mixed in. A lot has been said about the Packers slow start and some of that is Adams gone and offense breaking in two rookie WR (FYI add Romeo Doubs in fantasy if you can you'll thank me later.). But the adjustment of defenses is a big part of this and until offenses figure out a different way to attack, defenses will continue to force the easy passes down low and short. I would also add many teams are switching back to a 4-3 or even 5-2 look where they are not blitzing and depending on the four or five man front to make the impact on the QB. The Top 10 teams in the NFL in sacks PHI/DAL/SF/TB/BUF/DEN/GB/KC/NE/LAC have a combined record of 25-15 whereas the bottom 10 teams are 16-34. Obviously teams with high sack rates historically have had an advantage W/L record, but with the increased emphasis on a Cover 2 look, without blitzing, and safeties high the ability to get to the QB has an even more important role then before.

 

AFC:

BAL- The controversy on the 4th down go for it call vs a FG makes zero sense to me. The Ravens knew Allen was there and a FG still meant possible loss as Allen was rolling. As a Bills fan and the tables were flipped I would've wanted the Bills to go for it as Lamar is a special talent. With that said if they could get DJ Moore or ODB it would I think really help the offense be a bit more diversified.

BUF- Big win and not just because of the whole one score thing. Standings wise BUF has the head to head over BAL, they have a common games win with MIA, and conference wise they are 2-1. I think 13 wins gets the AFC 1 seed this year, 12 means it is tiebreakers. The Bills need to get every tiebreaker they can at this point.

CIN- For all the panic about 0-2 they have rebounded decently to 2-2. Their defense looks better then their offense which is good and bad. Its good that they are helping keep them in games, but Burrow and crew just look off at this point. Maybe SB hangover, maybe the Cover 2 shell, maybe they just overperformed and got hot and they are not as high performers as we saw last year.

CLE- Tough loss at ATL as things even out a bit in Browny land. Jacoby Brissett has played as well as he can to keep the Browns season alive until Watsons return, but Sunday showed he is still limited and those limitations can be exploited.

DEN- Well the offense finally broke 20 pts four games in... but the defense had a bad day and after Broncos offense got it to 25-25 the D allowed a game ending TD drive. The bigger issue is Russell Wilson is on pace for just 17 TDs on the year which would be a career low. Things will probably balance back a little as he is projected for 4100 yds, but this is starting to feel a bit like when the Bills got Bledsoe and you could start to see his best days were further behind then hoped.

HOU- The Texans are going as expected so lets focus on RB Dameon Pierce who has had a great start with two straight 100+ yard combined games and a TD in each. Their offense is going to rebuild next year with a new QB, but he is a nice piece to help that new QB.

IND- Owner is mad, fans are mad, retired alumni are mad, everyone's mad. Matt Ryan is headed for career lows, Taylor is hurt, other key players can't stay healthy, nothing is working. Thing is the Colts have been clinging for years to stop gap "easy" fix options at QB which worked decently in 2020, 2021 almost paid off until Wentz imploded at the end. 31 other teams are not crying tears as they had Manning and wasted Luck, but this is a team which maybe finally is realizing they need to take their medicine for a little bit and truly reset their team across the board most importantly though at QB.

JAX- Turnovers will doom any team and 5 fumbles by Lawrence is all PHI needed to end this. Regardless they are probably the best team in their division and adding another pass catcher would help this growing offense.

KC- Yours truly said preseason KC's offense could be better as it is more diversified now and what a performance Sunday. TB has had a rash of injuries and just looked a little old vs the Ferrari fast attack of KC.

LAC- Needed win to right the ship and they knocked off a division opponent to sit squarely at #2 in the division. With the injuries piling up if they can get through their next 3 games @CLE , DEN, & SEA 2-1, they would hit the bye at 4-3 which all things considered isn't too bad and would allow them to heal up a bit.

MIA- Pathetic. Utterly Pathetic and Scary that you would put a player in who was clearly hurt Sunday and could legitimately die because of their condition. Sad thing is this is just the must public display we have seen of this it happens in some other teams locker rooms where the win is ahead of a players health. Thursday was not a good night for the sport and if the NFL is going to actually care about the long term viability they need to be aggressively proactive in protecting players from themselves regardless of W/L record.

NE- Spare me the moral victory crap, their the 2006-2009 Bills with some talent in a few spots but overall lacking compared to the rest of the field. It is glorious to watch although I have to admit Matthew Judon is a superb player.

NYJ- Hey hey hey look at these Jets making some strides. Nice game for Zach Wilson to come out of injury and help them to a W on the road in PIT none the less. They are a year away but they will win a game or two against a bigger opponent at some point that will turn some heads. Sauce Gardner is up to 5 PD this season and the INT's will come soon.

PIT- It is hard to admit that a favorite is mortal but reality is hitting hard for PIT. Their defense is missing its leader and the lack of talent shows back their meanwhile the offense is a mess. Moving to Pickett is the right move although doing so on the road in Buffalo none the less is really trial by fire. Regardless you got to see what you have and at least they are doing that.

RAIDERS- This weeks game in KC feels like a must win if they have any division chances and even playoff wise. A lot of hype was thrown on Derek Carr pre season, but only once in his career has he thrown for 30 or more TDs (2015 32TDs), otherwise he averages about 24 TDs a year which is middle of the road these days. The remainder of the year is Carr also battling for his starting spot, the Davis family is not known for patience of late.

TEN- The division crown is their path to the playoffs and they are back to being tied for it. Derrick Henry is on pace for over 1300 yds even though he is on pace for his lowest yards pet attempt at 4.0 a carry. The Titans have dominated their division since Tannehill arrived and how they handle the upstart Jags will go a ways to deciding their fate.

 

NFC:

ATL- 2-2 with both losses being one score and last second. Wilder things have happened and if they can just get a win in their next three (at TB, SF, at CIN) they then have CAR, LAC, at CAR, CHI, at WSH, & PIT. The NFC will have opportunities for wild card spots this year, maybe the plucky Falcons find a way into that group.

ARZ- The Cards have not looked particularly well these first four weeks despite being 2-2, but a faceoff with the 4-0 Eagles is maybe the measuring stick they need. After the schedule toughens up as matchups with the Rams, 49ers, & Vikings await with even Seattle looking more formidable. No team will answer more questions this month about who they are good or bad then Zona.

CAR- I feel bad for Panther fans heck I feel bad for myself as writing about this team sucks. Same deal as prior years as the QB isn't doing enough, McCaffrey is good when healthy, and the defense is opportunistic enough for them to lose close. Matt Rhule's days are numbered, but this team truly needs a new president or gm with a clearly defined vision because they have been adrift for years now.

CHI- Bears fans are apparently surprised their not good and Fields isn't progressing. This is a public service announcement that expecting a second year QB to just improve because he should when you give him no offensive line or weapons generally is not an avenue for success.

DAL- Cooper Rush managed to go 3-0 in relief with Dak due back soon. Dallas very much has their season alive and their defense has held every opponent under 20 pts. The Eagles are in two weeks, even if they lose to the Rams this week at 3-2 they will have a chance to make a statement.

DET- 1st in pts scored, 32nd in pts allowed. Only Detroit could do something like that. But seriously the Lions were everyone's preseason wildcard darling, but reality is they are a year early as the defense still needs major work. The offense though has shown to have some real juice and they have lost every game close with losses to PHI and MIN being of no shame. Seattle though is a bit of a gut punch on the progress meter. I understand people really like Dan Campbell and his candid honesty, but results are going to have to show more the rest of the year.

GB- Playing with fire at home as Rodgers pick 6 was nearly a catastrophe but cooler heads prevailed against NE. The rookie WRs Doubds and Watson are finding their way week by week and GB should be far more interesting on offense come the later weeks of the season.

LAR- The 49ers have had the Rams number for a bit now (minus the NFC title), but the offense is sputtering right now. Allen Robinson has missing persons signs up, Stafford is getting beaten, and the RB situation is questionable. Maybe it is the SB hangover, maybe tough schedule, maybe McVay is himself a little burned out, but they need to get it together quick otherwise they will find themselves in a far more dire picture playoff wise.

MIN- Watching this team is infuriating. They have so many good players on offense and some studs on D that winning should not be this hard. Kirk Cousins seemingly makes things harder on himself and I do not see how they move forward with him after this year. Regardless they won and are 3-1, but the potential left on the table is disappointing when you see the roster.
NOLA- They played hard and Dalton was decent despite all the injuries, but they are already now 1-3. The NFC South looks weak and TB does not look strong so maybe they pull it together or maybe like last year despite some talent on the roster the sum of the parts just doesn't click enough to make noise.

NYG- Every few years we get a team that is fun, 100% overachieving, but easy to root for and honestly this Giants team is that. It is hard to say if Barkley can hold up the season barring the load right now and Daniel Jones could turnover the ball enough it doesn't matter what anyone does, BUT maybe it lasts. Next four before the bye are London vs GB, BAL, at JAX, and at SEA.  Find a way to go 2-2 and the G-Man come out of the bye rested at 4-3 with some winnable games potentially against WSH 2x, DET, IND, and HOU. Hey as we know wilder things have happened.

PHI- This offense is insanely fun to watch and there may not have been a better offseason addition then AJ Brown to PHI. Strangely enough despite his incredible play Jalen Hurts has only thrown for 4 TD's despite 1120 yds passing although he has 4 rushing TDs. I would expect that to even out.

SEA- Geno Smith is 10th overall in passing yards something I did not expect to write or say in 2022. Hey credit to him for putting in the works after all these years as he is making work with Lockett, Metcalf, & Dissly while Penny has 292 yds on the ground. I was not high on Seattle, but with the NFC looking week and every NFC West team having issues maybe they can get some wins and make it interesting down the stretch.

SF- Good Jimmy showed up last night and when he does the 49ers look like a juggernaut. At 2-0 in division I want to say the 49ers take the West but Jimmy G can be very uneven and Kyle Shanahans conservative play calling late makes it hard to fully buy.

TB- The Bucs feel like they will win the division at 11-6 just simply because their defense is generally decent and the offense can do enough. With that said this is not the same team we saw the prior two years and with Brady's personal life seemingly imploding I have to question the focus he is able to keep in a year he already doesn't look himself.

WSH- Whatever good vibes existed after week 1 are gone. Three straight losses including two in division which they were not even close in either game. Maybe they right the ship with the Titans and Bears up next, but Wentz has been sacked 17 teams and has 5 ints already. Pencil them in for the #9 pick in the draft and move on.

Well done..,appreciate your insight, taking the time .. informative, interesting points .. i think  the Bills are capable of cruising after this next stretch.. but obviously health will be the factor 

[Bills2022]

Great evaluation. I think you are right about the 13 wins being the AFC #1 seed.  My guess is the Bills and Chiefs are both going to finish 13-4 and the head to head will decide the #1 seed.  Big game next week. 

[Scott7975]

Cover 2 takes a safety out of the box so it wont be as effective against teams that can both run the ball and beat you deep.

[BuffaninSarasota]

thank you for the effort OP, I enjoyed the read

[corta765]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

He is talking about the un-discussed key to the first quarter of the season.  I think it’s line play.  Yes the Lions are 1-3 but their offense is shocking the world.

i get you. Could be both, the lack of preseason I think has a big role in the offenses being behind. COVID caused two years where things were all over without unity, so I think offenses had an edge.

[BigDingus]

I learned that having at least ONE of our All-Pro safeties back there can really make a difference! 😁

[corta765]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Cover 2 takes a safety out of the box so it wont be as effective against teams that can both run the ball and beat you deep.

It’s why I think GB was OK trading Adams. They have two really good RBs which allowed them to break in some youngsters at WR. They can balance it better then others. Inversely the Rams are all over and looks unprepared for what is thrown at them.

Edited October 4, 2022 by corta765

[Augie]

3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Holy novel batman

 

My father would have used up the printer cartridge on this. He just had to hold paper! 

[Behindenemylines]

If the Bills are 14-3 but lose to the chiefs and the chiefs are 13-4 and provided these are the two best records who has the #1 seed?   Bills correct as record trumps all 

 

I heard someone today I thought trying to make the point that Chiefs would get #1 as they beat the bills which is a “stronger” win than an actual win.  
 

what in the heck am I missing from the conversation to get to this point?  I can’t figure it out 

[JaBu]

3 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

If the Bills are 14-3 but lose to the chiefs and the chiefs are 13-4 and provided these are the two best records who has the #1 seed?   Bills correct as record trumps all 

 

I heard someone today I thought trying to make the point that Chiefs would get #1 as they beat the bills which is a “stronger” win than an actual win.  
 

what in the heck am I missing from the conversation to get to this point?  I can’t figure it out 

 

You are missing nothing. The League doesn't go to tie breakers unless there are identical won/loss records. The 14-3 noted above is the #1 seed.

 

[CSBill]

7 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

If the Bills are 14-3 but lose to the chiefs and the chiefs are 13-4 and provided these are the two best records who has the #1 seed?   Bills correct as record trumps all 

 

I heard someone today I thought trying to make the point that Chiefs would get #1 as they beat the bills which is a “stronger” win than an actual win.  
 

what in the heck am I missing from the conversation to get to this point?  I can’t figure it out 

 

Nothing, you are correct. Get smarter friends.

[BigAl2526]

The thing about John Harbaugh's decision to go for it.  The Bills drove right down the field and were toying with the Ravens at the end of the drive before kicking a FG with no time left.  The way they were moving the ball, the odds were very high they could have scored a TD if they wanted to anyway.  Baltimore would likely have lost the game by a point even if they kicked the FG.

[Royale with Cheese]

Even the best teams will have weeks where they are just off.  KC looked unbeatable against the Bucs but looked flat against the Colts.